GUILTY UK - Alesha MacPhail, 6, raped & murdered, Ardbeg, Isle of Bute, Scotland, 2 Jul 2018 -*arrest* #7

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We have been told they will take a
considerable amount time to reflect on any changes to the sentence.
Any ideas how long weeks, months? Or even they not sure yet?
I read in some newspaper article online that it should take a couple of weeks, but that might not be accurate. I'd guess we'd have the judges answer by the end of August.
 
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I agree but I also did think he was going to get a not proven verdict at his trial. I did not expect every member of the jury to find him unanimously guilty... I at least expected a few to be on the fence which is bizarre when I look back over the evidence, it was clear as day he done it I think I just panicked! I just can’t call it yet but from what we’ve heard i think it will be rejected !
Fingers crossed Kiki.
I know what you mean about the trial. It was a rollercoaster of not proven to guilty.
Of course it's only my opinion but one of the judges questioned the relevance of one of other cases in saying there was no sexual motive and they said the new psych report contained irrelevant details. Based on that i think the judges won't be losing any sleep over this.
 
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I read in some newspaper article online that it should take a couple of weeks, but that might not be accurate. I'd guess we'd have the judges answer by the end of August.
Hope so. The sooner the better.
 
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Did you see CJ there today Taylor ?
 
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Did you see CJ there today Taylor ?

I didn't, no. It was Rab, Calum, Angela and two women with them (I'm not sure if they were relatives or friends).
 
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I’m finding the appeal distressing so I cannot imagine how Alesha’s family must be feeling.

So much focus on him being 43. 43 is still young enough to inflict pain and torment on to other innocent families. I hope he is locked up forever. I feel like this appeal process will just be entertainment for his disturbed mind.
Is the current sentence of 27 years defined that he would then be released automatically or would that be subject to a review? Or was it life with a minimum of 27. I can't actually remember. If after 27 years and no remorse, could he be confined for longer?

If he gets a reduction, how does that work if it was supposed to be life anyway?
 
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Is the current sentence of 27 years defined that he would then be released automatically or would that be subject to a review? Or was it life with a minimum of 27. I can't actually remember. If after 27 years and no remorse, could he be confined for longer?

If he gets a reduction, how does that work if it was supposed to be life anyway?
It was detention without the limit of time, minimum 27 years. So he couldn’t be eligible for parole until he was 43, no guarantees he would get out then though but there’s always a chance I suppose.
 
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Is the current sentence of 27 years defined that he would then be released automatically or would that be subject to a review? Or was it life with a minimum of 27. I can't actually remember. If after 27 years and no remorse, could he be confined for longer?

If he gets a reduction, how does that work if it was supposed to be life anyway?

It's 27 years minimum, he was sentenced to life with a 27-year "punishment part" which means he can technically be imprisoned for the rest of his life, but the parole board will look at his case after that time period to see if they think he has made any progress or is still a threat and if he is viable for release. Yes, if after 27 years he shows no improvement I'm sure he'd remain confined.
 
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It's 27 years minimum, he was sentenced to life with a 27-year "punishment part" which means he can technically be imprisoned for the rest of his life, but the parole board will look at his case after that time period to see if they think he has made any progress or is still a threat and if he is viable for release. Yes, if after 27 years he shows no improvement I'm sure he'd remain confined.
Taylor’s is a more articulate way of saying it! :oops:
 
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Is the current sentence of 27 years defined that he would then be released automatically or would that be subject to a review? Or was it life with a minimum of 27. I can't actually remember. If after 27 years and no remorse, could he be confined for longer?

If he gets a reduction, how does that work if it was supposed to be life anyway?
He was given life with a punishment part of 27 years. Which means he has to serve 27 years before being considered for parole, which i think he would have to apply for.
If the 27 years is reduced then he would still have a life sentence just that he'll have to serve a reduced punishment part of the sentence before being considered for parole.
He can still be kept in beyond the punishment part of his sentence, it all depends on the parole board.
 
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Taylor’s is a more articulate way of saying it! :oops:

Haha no, I forgot about "detention without limit of time" like you said!
It's all technical jargon anyway, to be honest, he's in there for a long time and that's that haha.
 
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It's 27 years minimum, he was sentenced to life with a 27-year "punishment part" which means he can technically be imprisoned for the rest of his life, but the parole board will look at his case after that time period to see if they think he has made any progress or is still a threat and if he is viable for release. Yes, if after 27 years he shows no improvement I'm sure he'd remain confined.
It was detention without the limit of time, minimum 27 years. So he couldn’t be eligible for parole until he was 43, no guarantees he would get out then though but there’s always a chance I suppose.
He was given life with a punishment part of 27 years. Which means he has to serve 27 years before being considered for parole, which i think he would have to apply for.
If the 27 years is reduced then he would still have a life sentence just that he'll have to serve a reduced punishment part of the sentence before being considered for parole.
He can still be kept in beyond the punishment part of his sentence, it all depends on the parole board.
Thanks all for explaining.
 
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Basically -20 years from now he will be working in a charity shop on day release in Stirling hoping none of us remember him!
 
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Basically -20 years from now he will be working in a charity shop on day release in Stirling hoping none of us remember him!

Lmao. I think you'll remember the hair if you ever meet him!
 
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Basically -20 years from now he will be working in a charity shop on day release in Stirling hoping none of us remember him!
We ain’t ever forgetting that hair or chin !
 
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Lmao. I think you'll remember the hair if you ever meet him!

Ken I like charity shops too. I’ll be sleuthing even in 20 years time, probably worse than now as i’ll be near retired and have loads of time on my hands. Lol
 
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Actually just wondering about that, does he have to complete his punishment part before he's eligible for day release?
 
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