GUILTY UK - Angela Wrightson murdered by 13 & 14 year old girls, Hartlepool, 2014

[Martha Morris]

Unfortunately this is the UK. They'll be out in a few years with new identities and new lives - courtesy of the tax payer. In the US they would lock them up and throw away the key but here our sentences are just so soft.

Saw a case last week where a man battered his disabled and helpless neighbour almost to death and left him to die. He's in a coma still 7 months later and if he ever does regain consciousness he'll have severe brain damage. But what disgusts me even more is that this individual had previously served 7 years for shooting his teenage girlfriend through the heart and killing her. Just 7 years!! And he's back out to destroy someone else's life.

They've given him 'life' this time - but he'll be eligible for parole in 8 years! You couldn't make it up.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepag...his-barking-dog-is-jailed-again-for-life.html

 

[Gigi-G]

Thank you Sar

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[Gigi-G]

I heard about this story yesterday. Absolutely horrific. I cannot imagine what possessed those children to do something like this. It's a horrible case in the first place, but given the perpetrators ages it just makes it all the more chilling. It makes me so sad not only for the loss of Angie's life, but also because these kids were capable of doing that. I think they're past rehabilitation now, once evil sets in that young I don't really know if it's possible to turn it around. It goes beyond murder, it's plain torture and sadistic behaviour. I wonder what the girls' childhoods were like, whether there was any history of abuse, or whether they were just born evil.

Just like James Bulgers' killers. They weren't that old themselves 11/12 and kidnapped lil toddler from a shopping mall. Making him walk miles. Until he started grisling. So one of them punched him hard enough to knock him out. Eventually he came round n along the rail tracks they went... still has a profound effect even now. I studied the case for my uni work.. the boys were held at 'Her Majesty's pleasure' as they were really too young to be tried as bona-fide killers. But they'd confessed to killing the toddler.
They were given new identities. Moved to another part of the country. But one of them grew to become an alcoholic. Loose lips etc etc. N one was arrested on having children on his pc.

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[Gigi-G]

Unfortunately this is the UK. They'll be out in a few years with new identities and new lives - courtesy of the tax payer. In the US they would lock them up and throw away the key but here our sentences are just so soft.

Saw a case last week where a man battered his disabled and helpless neighbour almost to death and left him to die. He's in a coma still 7 months later and if he ever does regain consciousness he'll have severe brain damage. But what disgusts me even more is that this individual had previously served 7 years for shooting his teenage girlfriend through the heart and killing her. Just 7 years!! And he's back out to destroy someone else's life.

They've given him 'life' this time - but he'll be eligible for parole in 8 years! You couldn't make it up.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepag...his-barking-dog-is-jailed-again-for-life.html

Our society these days... one of the few cases that the verdict doesn't match the severity of the crime.. sickens me tbh

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[flutterby]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tees-35977100

Apparently the media was effectively banned from talking about the case to ensure that there was a fair trial

The jury in the trial of two girls convicted of murdering a vulnerable woman heard graphic evidence of how they tortured and beat her to death. But the crime sparked such abusive comments on Facebook that a judge feared the girls could not have a fair hearing. He scrapped the case and ordered a retrial for the following year - leading to a seven-month fight by the media to be allowed to report on it. This is what happened.

 

[flutterby]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tees-35774500

The older girl said she thought people could only die from "cancer, being shot in the head and being stabbed in the heart".
The girl, who has admitted manslaughter, described the attack on Ms Wrightson, telling the court the pair of them "stamped on Angie's face", threw a television and printer at her and together picked up a table and "whacked Angie in the face with it, two times".

Awful, on so many levels

 

[sar2them1984]

Judge is going to rule at 12.50 whether anonymity ban can be lifted.

Most people already know the two girls names however it allows us to talk a bit more about them as a lot can be gained from their social media/previous police reports etx

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[Legally Bland]

Reading the BBC, sentencing and a decision on anonymity is happening shortly.

There's also a decent article on a total media blackout, which was appealed by 9 media outlets:

On 11 February, Lord Justice Leveson handed down the court's decision - to largely grant the appeal, but with a series of conditions.

The media could report the evidence of the retrial, but they could not mention it on social media or allow comments underneath articles until the verdict. In addition, the very fact of the legal challenge could not be reported until the verdicts were returned.

He said the case "for the first time, raises the issue of how critical fair trial protections can be extended to prevent or control communications on social media".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tees-35977100​

I'm glad the appeal by the media was successful. I'm all for a right to a fair trial, but justice in secrecy can't be a healthy thing. The balance needs sorting out.

 

[flutterby]

I've just opened up the live feed, and slightly amused by the weather forecast at 8.09am

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-england-tyne-35959041

 

[U2forever]

Oy vey mama, these two must be fans of Mary Bell. The more depraved, the better.
I pray there is a way in the UK to cage these two animals up forever and a day.

Godspeed Angela, may you rest in peace and these two soulless goons burn in hell.

 

[sar2them1984]

I believe the starting point for murder for a child is 12 years...

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[U2forever]

The older girl said she thought people could only die from "cancer, being shot in the head and being stabbed in the heart".
The girl, who has admitted manslaughter, described the attack on Ms Wrightson, telling the court the pair of them "stamped on Angie's face", threw a television and printer at her and together picked up a table and "whacked Angie in the face with it, two times".

BBM:
Silly little girls... only if it's the 'bad' cancer, a wooden stake and a silver bullet. I read nothing about 9 lives, so, I'm guessing they know that only implies to cats. :banghead:

 

[sar2them1984]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/angela-wrightson-murder-live-updates-7705978

Mirror sentencing coverage seems to be the most comprehensive

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[Legally Bland]

Minimum:

Wrightson murder girls to be sentenced to at least 12 years

Rebecca Turner
BBC North East
Posted at
13:45
The two teenage girls convicted of murdering Angela Wrightson will be detained for at least 12 years, according to guidelines.

The CPS website says: "For an offender who is a youth when they committed the offence the appropriate starting point is 12 years detention at Her Majesty's pleasure."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-england-tyne-35959041

 

[sar2them1984]

Yes, let's hope that they are given much longer. If they were given the minimum then they wouldn't even be near to 30 when they are released

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[sar2them1984]

Judge has ruled anonymity ban is to stay in place.

Words fail me..

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[sar2them1984]

And jailed for minimum of 15 years.

Feel heavy sense of injustice in this. The whole of both trials seems to have been all about protecting those two girls

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[Legally Bland]

And jailed for minimum of 15 years.

Feel heavy sense of injustice in this. The whole of both trials seems to have been all about protecting those two girls

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It definitely seems that way.

 

[sar2them1984]

Sentencing statements have been published

https://www.judiciary.gov.uk/judgme...-of-mr-justice-globe-angela-wrightson-murder/

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[sar2them1984]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-35977027

More info about the girls upbringing

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