UK - Anita Rose, 57, walking her dog, police investigating suspected murder, Brantham, Suffolk, 24th July 2024'

  • #241
Yes it’s a very tight window.
Maybe the cyclist who found her scared off her attacker ?
He could have seen him cycling from a distance.
 
  • #242
I am unable to watch the Crimewatch Live video, as it’s only available in the UK, so thank you for sharing that.

Just some thoughts…

Then, Anita being found injured where she was is not a mystery, as she most likely was walking there, on her way home?

If that is correct:

She was reportedly at the top of Newmill Lane at The Street intersection at 6:03.

The spot where she was found on the track behind the sewage works is about 4300 ft (1.3 km) (.81 mile) from that Newmill spot.

(I am unable, for some reason, to add a map here showing the mileage measurement that gave me the 4300 ft figure.)

If she walked about 3 mph, it would take about 16 minutes.

6:03 am + 16 min = 6:19 am

The cyclist found Anita at 6:25 am!

What an incredibly short window of time for the assault to take place, if my math is accurate. (Granted, I’m terrible at math. :p)

Also, very puzzling that her top was taken along with her windbreaker jacket.

Yes, that is my understanding after watching that, that her location itself is not a mystery now.

Your maths on the distances looks good to me - from home to the point she turned off the app is about 3 miles and took roughly an hour. 3mph walking a dog seems a fairly decent pace and seems about right - from looking at the cctv I thought Anita was moving at a decent pace, no doubt to get the mileage in and give a spaniel a good walk before she went to work.

A very short window as you say.
 
  • #243
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  • #245
Today's episode of Crimewatch Live featuring Anita's case (for those who are able to watch)


I've written up a transcript of certain parts -


Daughter - Mum would get up early to walk Bruce in the mornings, so that he had a good walk before she went to work. Being a Springer he needed a lot of exercise.

Narrator - On Weds 24th July this year Anita and her dog Bruce left their house on Palfrey Heights to begin their daily early morning walk on the outskirts of the village.

Police - She left at 5 o’clock that morning. It was light at that point. Anita used an app on her phone that enabled her to track the route that she’s taken around Brantham. As Anita leaves her home address she’d walk through the estate in a north east direction. Anita and Bruce circled the church and walked down south on Rectory Lane out into the open countryside. From that point she’d be following the path along the railway line that runs through Brantham until she turned right towards the top of Newmill Lane. As she reached the top of Newmill Lane she stopped her app at 6.03 that morning but we know from previous walks that same location has been where Anita’s previously stopped her phone. By that point of the walk she’d walked for about 3 miles.

Narrator - Police believe Anita followed the track parallel to the railway line the way she came, but instead of turning right and back towards the church she carried straight on towards a pond, where she’d often take Bruce at the end of their walk. But Anita didn’t make it that far.

Police - At 6.25am a male cycling towards the railway station found Anita unconscious on the path at the bottom of Rectory Lane near the water sewage plant. He could see facial injuries and immediately called an ambulance. Bruce her dog was by her side with the lead wrapped around her leg.

Narrator - Anita was taken to Addenbrooke’s hospital but died 4 days later. […]

In the studio -

Presenter - I’m joined now by DCI Matthew Connick who’s investigating this matter. Matthew what can you tell us about her last movements that day?

Police - So it started as a normal day for Anita. She’d always leave for an early morning dog walk and that morning she left her address in Palfrey Heights in Brantham at 5am. She used a tracking app on her phone which was linked to her dog walks. She’d receive a reward after about an hour’s walk. So we can see the route she’s taken (map on screen) up towards the church and then she heads down south towards the railway line out into the open countryside. And then she heads up towards the top of Newmill Lane. We see her walk down that lane to the river, before she doubles back on herself. And at 6.03 we say she’s alive and well at that point, she stops her app, it’s after an hour’s dog walk and it’s somewhere she’s stopped that app before. It’s between 6.03 and 6.25 when she’s found by a male who’s enroute to the railway station that she’s found unconscious on the path next to the railway line. […]

Presenter - Now interestingly some of her items were missing, that she’d left home with, they’re no longer there, tell us about that.

Police - That’s right, her coat was stolen from her. That’s a pink Regatta waterproof jacket, she was clearly wearing that on the walk that day. That’s still outstanding, we’re appealing for anybody with any information about that jacket to come forward.

Presenter - This is a distinctive phone case.

Police - That’s right, another item stolen from her was her iPhone, her mobile phone. We recovered that in Ipswich three days later on Saturday 27th July. But her phone case is outstanding. So we’ve made arrest (? - not sure if he says made arrest or made arrests, 10.55 in video) in relation to the recovery of the phone, but that’s a distinctive black quilted case with a gold stud and gold crown design.

Presenter - Also these headphones (Galaxy Buds2 Samsung - white earbuds shown on screen).

Police - That’s right, Galaxy earbuds. They would have been in the case and potentially in the jacket pocket. They’re outstanding. And any information about how anything’s moved from Brantham to Ipswich we’re really keen to hear.

Presenter - There’s also a potential witness that you wish to trace. So we’ve got an image here that we can see (photo shown on screen is the one below). Talk us through this.

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Old link - Anita Rose: Police identify witness in murder inquiry

Police - That’s right, we’ve still been unable to identify any witnesses that have actually seen Anita on the walk that morning. This male was seen walking past the same CCTV camera as Anita 16 minutes later. He’s a white male, he’s balding at the top, grey at the sides, glasses. If you are that person or you know that person please come forward. You may hold some vital information for us.

Presenter - Other than this person who else do you want to hear from today?

Police - Any witnesses. Anita was distinctive in her pink coat, she was walking her Springer spaniel that white and tan dog, anybody that’s seen either of them on the walk. And also the railway line cuts right through Brantham. It’s a busy commuter line between to and from London. It sits between Manningtree and Ipswich. Anybody on that train that may have seen somebody please get in touch.

Presenter - And if anyone needs a further incentive to come forward there’s a financial reward put forward by the independent charity Crimestoppers.

Police - That’s right, Crimestoppers have offered a £20,000 reward for any information that leads to the arrest and conviction for anybody involved in the death of Anita. And that information can be provided anonymously.
 
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That's a slightly longer clip than I've seen before.

From looking at the pictures of the guy in blue (taken we are told from the same cctv), walking left to right with a hedge behind him, I've marked two options of what might have been his path in blue. Anita's in pink, as she heads towards the alleyway top left.

Also from the two pictures he apparently takes his hat off at that point and I can't see his bag on the second image.

Street View

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  • #247
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That's a slightly longer clip than I've seen before.

From looking at the pictures of the guy in blue (taken we are told from the same cctv), walking left to right with a hedge behind him, I've marked what might have been his path in blue. Anita's in pink, as she heads towards the alleyway top left.

Also from the two pictures he apparently takes his hat off at that point and I can't see his bag on the second image.

Street View

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How far from that point in her walk was she found?

When she looks back, her expression is almost one of confusion? Like someone was behind her but vanished. Hard to tell of course what she was thinking but it looked like she was trying to make sense of something that was concerning enough to stop and look around.

What's it say that the man in blue hasn't come forward? Why the cap, why was it off, where did the bag go/come from? Why had no one identified him? Not local?

Why did this happen? For a phone and ear buds?

So very sad.

She just wanted to walk her dog and go home.

JMO
 
  • #248
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How far from that point in her walk was she found?

As the crow flies just under half a mile - purple line below. Anita's route in pink.

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Regarding the man I was assuming he was on the opposite side, and that the hedges had grown since the street view images were taken in 2019.

But looking at the video of Anita I can see now that they haven't grown that much, yet in both images of the man the trees/hedge is clearly taller than him. I'm struggling now to see how these images can have come from the same cctv, there don't seem to be any hedges that high in range of that camera.
 
  • #250
Regarding the man I was assuming he was on the opposite side, and that the hedges had grown since the street view images were taken in 2019.

But looking at the video of Anita I can see now that they haven't grown that much, yet in both images of the man the trees/hedge is clearly taller than him. I'm struggling now to see how these images can have come from the same cctv, there don't seem to be any hedges that high in range of that camera.
Something seems different to me about the camera/picture quality too. I wonder if these stills could be from a house or car near Newmill Lane.
 
  • #251
Something seems different to me about the camera/picture quality too. I wonder if these stills could be from a house or car near Newmill Lane.

Unless someone can spot something that I can't then I'm thinking they have to be from somewhere else. As well as the tall hedge, it's clear that he's walking on a wide tarmac path or a road with no pavement, and not on one of the narrow pavements on Palfrey Heights. So it's a bit odd for them to state it's the same cctv 16 minutes later.
 
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  • #252
Unless someone can spot something that I can't then I'm thinking they have to be from somewhere else. As well as the tall hedge, it's clear that he's walking on a wide tarmac path or a road with no pavement, and not on one of the narrow pavements on Palfrey Heights. So it's a bit odd for them to state it's the same cctv 16 minutes later.
Maybe they chose that CCTV of the witness from a different camera because it gives a clear picture of him to enable someone to recognise him, but it's not the same camera that captured them both.
 
  • #253
Maybe they chose that CCTV of the witness from a different camera because it gives a clear picture of him to enable someone to recognise him, but it's not the same camera that captured them both.

Maybe they did and maybe it is the case that 1) that picture is clearer 2) it is from a different camera/location and 3) he did also go past the cctv Anita was on as well (16 minutes later).

But if you want to trigger someone's memory why on earth would you say it's at a different location to what it was? If it was on Newmill Lane or Rectory Lane then surely that needs to be made known.
 
  • #254
Maybe they did and maybe it is the case that 1) that picture is clearer 2) it is from a different camera/location and 3) he did also go past the cctv Anita was on as well (16 minutes later).

But if you want to trigger someone's memory why on earth would you say it's at a different location to what it was? If it was on Newmill Lane or Rectory Lane then surely that needs to be made known.

This guy in blue seems to me the equivalent of a "bag lady".

A person raiding others' bins to collect things from rubbish into carrier bags.

That is why, IMO,
we see him on 2 different days, wearing the same clothes (but different shoes) so early in the morning.
He seems to be shuffling, and his posture is bent.
He is carrying a bag in one photo,
and in the second one, the bag seems to be hidden under his jumper/sweater
(or whatever this garment is called in English).

I doubt he is a perp,
but it is possible he saw something unusual in the neighborhood.
He might be a witness to something.

But I doubt he will contact Police.

JMO
Is my imagination running wild... AGAIN? :rolleyes:
 
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Maybe they did and maybe it is the case that 1) that picture is clearer 2) it is from a different camera/location and 3) he did also go past the cctv Anita was on as well (16 minutes later).

But if you want to trigger someone's memory why on earth would you say it's at a different location to what it was? If it was on Newmill Lane or Rectory Lane then surely that needs to be made known.

“The footage shows the 57-year-old at the start of her walk at Palfrey Heights at around 5am, and later walking on Rectory Lane at 5.17am with her dog Bruce.”
(Bolded by me)

Video of Anita walking in Palfrey Heights AND on Rectory Lane as she was just starting out at this link:

I think Rectory Lane may be where the gentleman they are seeking is walking past. Moo. Near St. Michael’s Church, perhaps? (Google Map, street view)

Here’s Anita and the gentleman each walking past the area with the high hedge:
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  • #256
“The footage shows the 57-year-old at the start of her walk at Palfrey Heights at around 5am, and later walking on Rectory Lane at 5.17am with her dog Bruce.”
(Bolded by me)

Video of Anita walking in Palfrey Heights AND on Rectory Lane as she was just starting out at this link:

I think Rectory Lane may be where the gentleman they are seeking is walking past. Moo. Near St. Michael’s Church, perhaps? (Google Map, street view)

Here’s Anita and the gentleman each walking past the area with the high hedge:
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Thanks, I hadn't seen that! Rectory Lane explains it then.

So he's walking down there same direction 16 minutes behind. And the location where Anita was later found is about 250 yards from the bottom of Rectory Lane, about half a mile from where those images are from based on your street view link, (which I think looks spot on for the location).
 
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  • #257
Thanks, I hadn't seen that! Rectory Lane explains it then.

So he's walking down there same direction 16 minutes behind. And the location where Anita was later found is about 250 yards from the bottom of Rectory Lane, about half a mile from where those images are from based on your street view link, (which I think looks spot on for the location).
Doesn't that suggest he was on track to walk directly past the crime scene? So should have been a witness to  something? Or local and turned in somewhere? Perplexing he hasn't come forward.

jmo
 
  • #258
Doesn't that suggest he was on track to walk directly past the crime scene? So should have been a witness to  something? Or local and turned in somewhere? Perplexing he hasn't come forward.

jmo

I don't think he was on track to pass it at the time it would have happened, the attack was about an hour later.
 
  • #259
Doesn't that suggest he was on track to walk directly past the crime scene? So should have been a witness to  something? Or local and turned in somewhere? Perplexing he hasn't come forward.

jmo

It is perplexing that he hasn't. Wonder what's in his bag?
 
  • #260
It's pretty remarkable if he walks that route on a regular basis but has stopped since Anita's murder. Presumably police have monitored the video since then.

Interesting that Anita had Bruce off the lead on that stretch of the lane.
 

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