Deceased/Not Found UK - April Jones, 5, Machynlleth, Wales, 1 Oct 2012 #4 *M. Bridger guilty*

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  • #621
I don't think it's that either, because the number plate is covered. He'd soon be in trouble driving around with a covered-up number plate.

(Well I suppose he is in some trouble, but ykwim)

Why would it get waterlogged?


The Land Rover, registration number L503 MEP, was recovered from a repair garage in the Old Station Road area of Machynlleth yesterday, he said.

The vehicle has plastic sheeting on the grill, which can be used to prevent the engine flooding when driving through water.
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crim...the-hunt-for-missing-april-jones-8195213.html
 
  • #622
Sadly, it is very seldom that child moelsters/killers/ etc. look like they would do such a thing, and often have no history.

There was an arrest today in the case of the little girl in Wyoming, USA who was sexually assaulted a week or so ago, held at gunpoint, etc, and escaped. If the perp is who it seems to be per the sleuths, he seems to be the basic normal man, with his own business, people respectful of his work, looks normal, even kind of handsome, etc. The little girl reported hundreds of photos of little girls inside his vehicle...

You just never know...
 
  • #623
Sadly, it is very seldom that child moelsters/killers/ etc. look like they would do such a thing, and often have no history.

There was an arrest today in the case of the little girl in Wyoming, USA who was sexually assaulted a week or so ago, held at gunpoint, etc, and escaped. If the perp is who it seems to be per the sleuths, he seems to be the basic normal man, with his own business, people respectful of his work, looks normal, even kind of handsome, etc. The little girl reported hundreds of photos of little girls inside his vehicle...

You just never know...
id like to see a nice picture of one but u are right u never know just thiscase is niggling me

no ones reportedseeing one or hundreds of photos in this case
 
  • #624
id like to see a nice picture of one but u are right u never know just thiscase is niggling me

The possible perp in the Wyoming case, which is breaking as we speak, is not unattractive and in his late 30's. His photo will probably show up on the thread listed in the "located" forum soon, under the title of "11-year old girl assaulted".
 
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The possible perp in the Wyoming case, which is breaking as we speak, is not unattractive and in his late 30's. His photo will probably show up on the thread listed in the "located" forum soon, under the title of "11-year old girl assaulted".
Thanks will check it out tomorow midnight here, so wish you all goodnight. god bless little April wherever she may be and hope her attacker is brought to justicewhoever they may be
 
  • #626
Concluded?
Looking at the local area, I can't see a garage area 'directly behind 'the Jones' house.

I could win a prize for the worst map ever, but I hope this gives you a better idea how this was concluded

The blue cross is the Jones' house
The pink cross is the garages at the back
The yellow cross is where the landrover was parked in many of the other photos posted today
The purple circle is where April was playing with MH
 

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I could win a prize for the worst map ever, but I hope this gives you a better idea how this was concluded

The blue cross is the Jones' house
The pink cross is the garages at the back
The yellow cross is where the landrover was parked in many of the other photos posted today
The purple circle is where April was playing with MH

Thanks, would be interested to know who lives near the purple circle, maybe VF!
 
  • #628
The purple circle is where April was playing with MH

I'm not convinced that it was.

As far as I'm aware, the only source for that is a circle on a media map. They may have made a mistake and they don't always go back and correct things. It's a big circle (bigger than yours, Amber), and there are actually two lots of garages within it, which suggests to me that the reporter wasn't sure. If that really was where the girls were playing, it doesn't fit with other descriptions we've been given such as "250 feet away" and "just outside her house". I think it's possible that they were playing around the garages at the back of the Jones house.
 
  • #629
I'm not convinced that it was.

As far as I'm aware, the only source for that is a circle on a media map. They may have made a mistake and they don't always go back and correct things. It's a big circle (bigger than yours, Amber), and there are actually two lots of garages within it, which suggests to me that the reporter wasn't sure. If that really was where the girls were playing, it doesn't fit with other descriptions we've been given such as "250 feet away" and "just outside her house". I think it's possible that they were playing around the garages at the back of the Jones house.

It was the set of garages I have circled that were shown to be cordoned off with police tape. If I can find a picture I will post it for you.
 
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I'm not convinced that it was.

As far as I'm aware, the only source for that is a circle on a media map. They may have made a mistake and they don't always go back and correct things. It's a big circle (bigger than yours, Amber), and there are actually two lots of garages within it, which suggests to me that the reporter wasn't sure. If that really was where the girls were playing, it doesn't fit with other descriptions we've been given such as "250 feet away" and "just outside her house". I think it's possible that they were playing around the garages at the back of the Jones house.

I've had a quick look but can't find the pic I was referring to at the moment. We only have the media images to go on and that block is highlighted in a number of media outlets, not all using the same markings eg

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-19826174
 
  • #633
Hang on a minute. One of the witnesses claims to have noticed the vehicle supposedly used in the abduction specifically because he found it odd that it was parked by the garages. I believe the person stated that he noticed it precisely because cars do not usually park there. Thinking about it (and given that you've presented us with a picture that clearly shows cars parked there) this is a very unusual claim to make. Why would the witness have found it odd to see a car parked by the garages? It seems to me that this is exactly what you'd expect to find?

"The man said: “I was home on Monday night as usual and saw little April playing outside with her friends.

“They were riding their bikes up and down the street, like they have been all summer.

“A driver kept cruising up and down the road where the kids were playing.

“I thought it was a little odd but nothing more and then I noticed the car parked up next to the garages which was strange because no one would park there usually."

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/witness-claims-he-was-last-to-see-missing-1363368

I wonder if it was spotted from one of the houses in this pic:
 

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It was the set of garages I have circled that were shown to be cordoned off with police tape. If I can find a picture I will post it for you.

Ah, OK, I haven't seen that anywhere. Thanks.
 
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“I thought it was a little odd but nothing more and then I noticed the car parked up next to the garages which was strange because no one would park there usually."

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk...issing-1363368

Wonder if the car was parked on the grass verges (next to the garages, rather than in front of them).
 

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Have a gander at this video - at around 1.10-1.15 there is an aerial shot of the cordoned off area.

Actually, it's well worth watching the first part too - it shows just how much the police knew by lunchtime the following day. I still want to know what happened to that damned Ford Connect though!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19796870

Edit: All the videos and news reports on April are on here, in chronological order. Definitely worth a look as there may be more things that jump out, knowing what we know now. Very interesting how little parts of the story have changed

http://www.bbc.co.uk/search/news/?page=8&q=april%20jones&dir=fd&news=55&news_av=87
 
  • #638
This will be my final post for tonight.

Try measuring the distance from home to the garages using mapmyrun.com. Make sure you turn the automatic route planners on the right hand side off as they will take you via the roads - when off you can cut across the grassed areas. On the left it will show you the distance - came out at 0.08 of a mile for me. 5280 x 0.08 = 422 feet from home - this is what I was saying about the little things changing as the story has gone on.
 
  • #639
Still not very far .... Perhaps M lives in one of the houses adjacent to those garages then.
 
  • #640
This will be my final post for tonight.

Try measuring the distance from home to the garages using mapmyrun.com. Make sure you turn the automatic route planners on the right hand side off as they will take you via the roads - when off you can cut across the grassed areas. On the left it will show you the distance - came out at 0.08 of a mile for me. 5280 x 0.08 = 422 feet from home - this is what I was saying about the little things changing as the story has gone on.

Thank you for this, apart from little things changing (which can happen when different witness statements are compared and confirmed), there doesn't seem to be an official timeline, or if there is, it's very vague.

Parents go to school meeting, council says they left meeting by 3.30, mentions of swimming lesson, then 'she was allowed to play a bit later as treat for glowing report', parents are variously reported as still at school, mother and older sister at home preparing tea, Dad not mentioned (at school, at home?), did little friend raise alarm, what time were LE called, PJ can't join search or join wife for TV appeal due to 'degenerative eye disease', one friend confirms he can't work due to that, another says he is great guy, sees him out walking dog every day, photo of him with April on shoulders in Olympic torch parade, but not even photographed with wife (unless I missed it) since April gone missing. They have visited search HQ to thank searchers (have MSM been asked to not take photos? why?) A respectful photo without being intrusive or asking questions would be a positive thing.

Apart from a few vague hearsay reports that MB is good guy and his poor son saying that he has been told his Dad 'never did anything to anybody', where is the mother of his 2 children who lives a few doors up from the Jones, where are the other two recent exes who live on the estate? Maybe they are understandably laying low to protect their families from what has happened to Scott Williams. Don't remember seeing any early discussion along the lines of 'MB so close to family, children are 'cousins' to April, he wasn't with them or helping to search'

CJ's father and stepmother are quoted but still don't appear to have joined family, no mention of PJ's family, are there living paternal grandparents?

No wonder so many on this forum and other social media are feeling that 'something isn't right'. Not suspecting parents, generally there are bits missing that are not logically missing because of LE operational reasons.

No reason to doubt child witness report that April got into a vehicle, so what is it??

UK members will know, but this seems to be the most extensive, intensive search in recent memory with huge resources expended. Please God they find April to return her to her loved ones.
JMO
 
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