Deceased/Not Found UK - April Jones, 5, Machynlleth, Wales, 1 Oct 2012 #5 *M. Bridger guilty*

[greenpalm]

This must be wrong?!! It contrasts with everything we have heard thus far.

What I find very, very odd, is that the accused would allegedly abduct a child with NO WAY of knowing whether he was spotted doing this, and then going about his business as normal the next day, dropping off his car at a repair shop, walking along the river, walking along the main road, out in public and making NO ATTEMPT AT HIDING WHATSOEVER.

I completely agree. How could he have known an adult wasn't watching out a window? We know that the pensioner saw the kids playing, and then seemingly vanish, so it was possible that someone would see him, and we know the other child saw her get into the vehicle. Unless he'd gone completely out of his head, which I suppose we can't rule out. It doesn't make sense.

I pointed out earlier in the thread that Philip Garido took Jacee Dugard in plain sight, but he didn't stick around and come out strolling the next day, he drove off with her.

That's the other reason I've been motivated to come up with an accident/panic scenario, because even if he wanted to do this deliberately, why do it where you're almost sure to get caught?

 

[Inge Jones]

Mind you, Ian Huntley was seen out and about and seemingly still at one with the community almost as soon as Holly and Jessica were found to be missing. I am sure he was out with the searchers and giving interviews the very same night! And he did nothing to my hinkymeter at all! /me scraps useless hinkymeter and goes for an upgrade...

 

[Blunomore]

Mind you, Ian Huntley was seen out and about and seemingly still at one with the community almost as soon as Holly and Jessica were found to be missing. I am sure he was out with the searchers and giving interviews the very same night! And he did nothing to my hinkymeter at all! /me scraps useless hinkymeter and goes for an upgrade...

But Huntley did not commit his crime out in the open where people could see him, as is alleged here.

 

[Inge Jones]

Well it only take a few seconds to kill a kid - and there are lots of places in that area where you can be unseen - especially before she was found to be missing and people started looking. Huntley had to leave his house and pack a couple of little bodies into his car, and dump them in the open. In fact he even set light to them without being spotted and that wasn't as rural as this area of Wales.

 

[Blunomore]

Well it only take a few seconds to kill a kid - and there are lots of places in that area where you can be unseen - especially before she was found to be missing and people started looking. Huntley had to leave his house and pack a couple of little bodies into his car, and dump them in the open. In fact he even set light to them without being spotted and that wasn't as rural as this area of Wales.

No. The point is that when he allegedly abducted her, it was in an open area where he may well have been spotted.

 

[PADDYWHACK]

Could have been over anything and I don't see being sacked 5 years ago as any way relevant to what he's charged with. The whole employment and relationship background, estranged from parents and siblings, non-relationship with son, are all interesting in an overall impression of the man, that's all.
And it seems he's no Robinson Crusoe, without generalising it seems that Fathers' Day at Mach might be a busy day for some.

For the press to state he was "sacked", puts him in a different light to having just left a job. People assume that those who are sacked are of bad character?

If he was "sacked" 5yrs ago, he was still trading until April this year as Verona.

Another update if no one has done it already. April was not in the vehicle days before her abduction.

 

[Blunomore]

Another update if no one has done it already. April was not in the vehicle days before her abduction.

Wonder why it was initially said by someone that she was ?

 

[Clio]

Another update if no one has done it already. April was not in the vehicle days before her abduction.

I must have missed this - where is the update from?

 

[PADDYWHACK]

Wonder why it was initially said by someone that she was ?

I imagine its like most of the press stories on this case, all local gossip. No wonder the police are finding it so difficult and if we look at what the police have released on its own, there isn't really much to go on.

 

[PADDYWHACK]

I must have missed this - where is the update from?

Family facebook page angry that the press have said it.

 

[PADDYWHACK]

No. The point is that when he allegedly abducted her, it was in an open area where he may well have been spotted.

That is possibly the most startling thing. You would have to be drunk, or stupid.

 

[UKgirl]

Very Good point....I was thinking that. IF it was him, as far as I can tell by the maps MB was arrested less than a Mile away,...what was he doing in that period of time???

If we knew what time he dropped the LR off at the repair garage, then we could link it up. Perhaps he was on his way back.

 

[UKgirl]

This must be wrong?!! It contrasts with everything we have heard thus far.

What I find very, very odd, is that the accused would allegedly abduct a child with NO WAY of knowing whether he was spotted doing this, and then going about his business as normal the next day, dropping off his car at a repair shop, walking along the river, walking along the main road, out in public and making NO ATTEMPT AT HIDING WHATSOEVER.

Not really. Ian Huntly did the same he was completly natural in front of the cameras, noone knew he was the killer.

He was trying to act natural, just doing his everyday things. Trying to avoid any attention.

 

[Amber34]

Family facebook page angry that the press have said it.

There are so many FB groups, how can you tell which is the family one?

Do you have a link please?

 

[UKgirl]

Mind you, Ian Huntley was seen out and about and seemingly still at one with the community almost as soon as Holly and Jessica were found to be missing. I am sure he was out with the searchers and giving interviews the very same night! And he did nothing to my hinkymeter at all! /me scraps useless hinkymeter and goes for an upgrade...

Me too!. I remember watching his tv interview and not noticing anything. Shannon Matthews also prings to mind, the mother totally fooled me. Also the girlfriend of the young guy who she said was stabbed in a road rage (can never remember his name) she even had me fooled.

 

[Blunomore]

Not really. Ian Huntly did the same he was completly natural in front of the cameras, noone knew he was the killer.

He was trying to act natural, just doing his everyday things. Trying to avoid any attention.

The difference is that Huntley was not seen with the girls in public on the day they disappeared. In this case, AJ was allegedly seen getting into the accused's vehicle.

 

[Dr. Know?]

I can't say what I want so blah blah blah. This is the US btw. Guess I'm silencened. dang...never thought I'd have to be silenced under another countries law. oh my. I'm learning something new everday now. I'm floored. jmo

 

[Clio]

It's partly not making sense because the article you quote doesn't say his car is "back on his drive" at 9.20 - it says it was spotted "outside his remote cottage", and is simply the same report as the neighbour who said he saw the car leaving at 9.15. The 5-minute difference may be because the neighbour said at "about 9.15 or 9.20" or it may be sloppy reporting, or it may be the journalist slightgly changing details to disguise the fact that he's copied the account from another newspaper!

I see what you're saying. I suppose it's possible that the 9:20am "outside his remote cottage" sighting might be the same as the 9:15am "crashing gears" sighting by motorist DR but surely that's an assumption?

It's still not clear to me whether the Landrover was seen on the drive at 8am on Tuesday or not though.

Gulf Times reprint of LES says

The morning after the five-year-old was abducted, Mark Bridger’s car, a blue Land Rover Discovery, disappeared from his drive between 8am and 9.20am

If the Landrover disappeared from the drive between 8am and 9:20am, all that means to me is that someone saw it on the drive ~8am and by ~9:20am someone saw it wasn't on the drive or it was seen elsewhere at ~9:20am

Sun (ahem) says

A pal has told police the Discovery was NOT parked on his driveway shortly before 8am Tuesday.

So either it was on the drive at ~8am or it wasn't. Still confused.

 

[Cendlaetholwr]

I can't say what I want so blah blah blah. This is the US btw. Guess I'm silencened. dang...never thought I'd have to be silenced under another countries law. oh my. I'm learning something new everday now. I'm floored. jmo

Welcome to the UK. Anything you had wanted to say will already have been discussed openly in the town. That and a whole shedload of other things.

 

[Blunomore]

Welcome to the UK. Anything you had wanted to say will already have been discussed openly in the town. That and a whole shedload of other things.

The difference is that that is discussed in people's lounges or on the street corners, not typed on a public forum for posterity.