GUILTY UK - Ashley Wadsworth, 19, Canadian, murdered 1st Feb 2022, Chelmsford, Essex *Arrest*

[annpats]

Mormonism is a bit of a rare thing in the UK, so it was always going to be a niche thing. I wonder if she had any Mormon support/contacts in the UK, or just her new ones in Utah?
I wonder if he got sick of her evangelism and just snapped?

 

[Jealoushe]

It's amazing to me that so many people weren't seeing that under eye tattoo. When I see one of those on someone that's practically all I can see.

Many people don't have great eyesight.

 

[Jealoushe]

I wonder if she knew of some criminal activity and that's why she wanted help to get the authorities involved?

 

[Dotta]

I wonder if he got sick of her evangelism and just snapped?

If that was the case, he would just let her go.
You know - "Godspeed then".

 

[ApparentlyInDenial]

This guy is not a crook. He’s a stupid Essex kid; take a train to any big Essex town and you see dozens of idiots like this. Tattoo on the face makes them feel big, they’re not.

 

[katybeauty]

This is so strange! How does a nice girl like her, who is religious end up with a guy like him? It seems like she may be a little sheltered, and 23 year old him took advantage of her good intentions. Maybe this relationship started as a bit of a charity case, she liked him and naively thought that he was just a troubled boy who needed her help. I wish more girls realised that it will just make them miserable and it can be super unsafe. Sometimes people just need professional help, no matter how hard you try.

She clearly has a ton of people who love her and care about her, and no doubt would’ve stopped her from going if they knew. I wonder if she kept some of the red flags to herself

I suspect he had probably had mental.health problems for a while and his mum especially thought a nice girl coming into his life would help him Parents seem reasonably well off and I wonder if he worked or they funded the flat he lived in

 

[Dotta]

In my opinion, she died b/c she wanted to leave.

She was done with him, fed up.
And disappointed with this "dream trip".

Mind you, he killed her while she was on the phone with her family, discussing a journey back home.

 

[Dotta]

This guy is not a crook. He’s a stupid Essex kid; take a train to any big Essex town and you see dozens of idiots like this. Tattoo on the face makes them feel big, they’re not.

But then, he is not just a "stupid kid".
He is a murderer.

 

[PrairieWind]

I would tent to disagree on this occasion, I think. If she thought he really needed help and her religion for her is a source of happiness, why wouldn’t she try to convert him? I am in no way saying this to disparage her or her religion at all. I hope it’s not coming across as that. Her religion is clearly very important to her and if she was sure that it meant a ticket to happiness and heaven for him, she would certainly want to share that with him, and it’s something that is very much encouraged in Mormonism.
Mormons are discouraged to marry outside of the church, and “flirt to convert” is not uncommon. We can only speculate but it may have been a source of tension between them and a dealbreaker for her if he was not respectful of her religion and boundaries

Perhaps religion was why the relationship didn't work out, but it isn't why he murdered her. She was about to leave. If was unhappy with her religious issues, he would have just let her go home.

 

[Sarahlou]

In my opinion, she died b/c she wanted to leave.

She was done with him, fed up.
And disappointed with this "dream trip".

Mind you, he killed her while she was on the phone with her family, discussing a journey back home.

I absolutely think he killed her because she wanted to leave and not come back. In his mind, if he couldn't have her nobody would imo.

 

[Smkd]

Friend of B.C. woman killed in U.K. says she sent a text for help hours before she was killed

“ Tianna Kowalchuk said she and Wadsworth had been friends from infancy, connected by their parents’ high-school friendship.

She said Wadsworth had met 23-year-old Jack Sepple through a mutual friend online, and that she’d spoken to him multiple times over the five years he and Wadsworth had been talking.

“He didn’t like me because I encouraged her to not be with him,” Kowalchuk said, adding that she couldn’t name a particular red flag about him but that he wasn’t the “nicest guy” to her friend.

During the trip, however, she said she never suspected there was a problem.

“She was sending me videos. She was happy that she was with him, and she was excited because when she was supposed to come back, she wanted him to eventually try and come back to Canada as well,” Kowalchuk said.

(…)

“I got a text message that was our time 3:30 a.m. that she was seeking help … and needed me to contact a member of our church on her behalf so they could help her,” Kowalchuk said.

The message, sent to other friends as well, didn’t say why she needed help or explain what she was dealing with, Kowalchuk said.

Due to the hour it was sent, they didn’t see it until they woke up much later. Kowalchuk said they called the church member on Wadsworth’s behalf and waited to hear back.

Later that night, she said she heard from one of Wadsworth’s family members that her friend had been killed.”

 

[Dotta]

Friend of B.C. woman killed in U.K. says she sent a text for help hours before she was killed

“ Tianna Kowalchuk said she and Wadsworth had been friends from infancy, connected by their parents’ high-school friendship.

She said Wadsworth had met 23-year-old Jack Sepple through a mutual friend online, and that she’d spoken to him multiple times over the five years he and Wadsworth had been talking.

“He didn’t like me because I encouraged her to not be with him,” Kowalchuk said, adding that she couldn’t name a particular red flag about him but that he wasn’t the “nicest guy” to her friend.

During the trip, however, she said she never suspected there was a problem.

“She was sending me videos. She was happy that she was with him, and she was excited because when she was supposed to come back, she wanted him to eventually try and come back to Canada as well,” Kowalchuk said.

(…)

“I got a text message that was our time 3:30 a.m. that she was seeking help … and needed me to contact a member of our church on her behalf so they could help her,” Kowalchuk said.

The message, sent to other friends as well, didn’t say why she needed help or explain what she was dealing with, Kowalchuk said.

Due to the hour it was sent, they didn’t see it until they woke up much later. Kowalchuk said they called the church member on Wadsworth’s behalf and waited to hear back.

Later that night, she said she heard from one of Wadsworth’s family members that her friend had been killed.”

It is so sad

By the way, friend's surname is Polish - Kowalczuk in original

 

[MrsWatson]

These were two very young people, in what may have been the first serious relationship either had been in. They were living together for three months after having never met or spent time in person together. The breakdown of their relationship may have had nothing at all to do with her faith. Those are some big expectations to carry into a relationship where you've never physically met the person, especially at their ages.

That, or course, has nothing to do with the awful murder of Ashley, nor does it excuse what he is accused of doing.

I think something happened that scared Ashley badly enough that she reached out at that hour to her friends in CN; she'd be well aware of the time difference since she had stayed in touch with them.

MOO

 

[annpats]

nothing we have heard suggests anything like this. Not sure why you would say that about this young woman

A lot of young British men are so far from being open towards Christianity, they would see it as a bit of a joke.
When you also consider he quite possibly had a temper, I think he snapped.

Not everyone is open to evangelism. Some people are tolerant at first, and polite about it, but it can become a chore for them to have to listen to, day in, day out.
I think as a new convert, she was fervent and strong in her new belief. She thought she could rescue him, and that he needed Mormonism is his life. I'm sure for her, it was all consuming, but I think he had other ideas although was tolerant towards her beliefs at first.

We in the UK don't have a country of big Christian groups like Mormons, Southern Baptists, Christian Scientists, Amish. This is a different world.
Very few people go to church on a Sunday and most old churches have tiny congregations of elderly people. A lot of old churches have now been converted to houses.

I think it was a clash of two different worlds.

MOO.

 

[KarenUK]

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[ApparentlyInDenial]

But then, he is not just a "stupid kid".
He is a murderer.

Murderer does not equal intelligent, necessarily.

 

[Dotta]

Murdered does not equal intelligent, necessarily.

Sure
But your post suggested he was harmless, just a silly tattooed kid, like many in Essex.
But maybe I misunderstood.

 

[ApparentlyInDenial]

Sure
But your post suggested he was harmless, just a silly tattooed kid, like many in Essex.
But maybe I misunderstood.

I believe it. He’s a silly little boy who can’t control his emotions.

 

[Dotta]

I believe it. He’s a silly little boy who can’t control his emotions.

He is 23.
Not a boy, but a man.
With issues.

 

[MrsWatson]

He is 23.
Not a boy, but a man.
With issues.

Legally, he is a man. As far as brain development, no.

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