GUILTY UK - Blake, 14 & Tristan Barrass, 13, dead, 4 hospitalized, Sheffield, May 2019 *Arrests*

[Plod]

Just to be clear, the police don't need to physically go to court, do they ?- just apply to a magistrate. Which can be done by knocking on his/her door if it's out of hours.

I had a colleague who was a magistrate and he used be on a weekend and evening rota for that, which meant the police came round to his house and gave him an update on evidence and future work to be done. I don’t think he ever refused, but he could ask them for more justification.

 

[MsFacetious]

What did I miss? I thought that they had been charged already?
Him with murder, her with murder and attempted murder.
Why the concern about how long they can be held without charges if they've been charged?

 

[Sarahlou]

What did I miss? I thought that they had been charged already?
Him with murder, her with murder and attempted murder.
Why the concern about how long they can be held without charges if they've been charged?

You've not missed anything. They have been charged. That was just a carried on discussion from before they were charged.

 

[Angleterre]

Just to be clear, the police don't need to physically go to court, do they ?- just apply to a magistrate. Which can be done by knocking on his/her door if it's out of hours.

That’s correct yes but it’s preferable to try and go to see the Magistrate in court where possible

 

[littlegreen]

I saw a side-by-side photo of the murdered boys and BM and he looks strikingly like them, especially the older one. (I’m on my phone but a simple google search did the trick for me.)

 

[Cherwell]

I saw a side-by-side photo of the murdered boys and BM and he looks strikingly like them, especially the older one. (I’m on my phone but a simple google search did the trick for me.)

He is their uncle, so a family resemblance is natural anyway.

 

[Legally Bland]

Blake should have been turning 15 today.
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A church vigil has been held for two teenage boys allegedly murdered by their mother in Sheffield.A church vigil has been held for two teenage boys allegedly murdered by their mother in Sheffield.

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Dozens of people joined the vigil at the church on Bellhouse Road, where candles were lit for the boys.

Dawn Johnson, whose children played with Blake and Tristan, said: "They were just absolutely lovely, full of life.

"I'm here to join everyone else and remember the boys and to help the children come to terms with what has happened."

Vigil for boys killed in Sheffield

 

[Candidateforwax]

I had no idea it was so close to Blake's birthday! Those poor boys.

 

[Bootlace15]

Me either,gosh how awful, bet he was looking forward to his big day. Surprised there wasn't more of a turn out to be honest given the outcry in Sheffield. Such a tragic story although feel we've only read the tragic blurb...

 

[Mellowmelly]

Blake should have been turning 15 today.
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A church vigil has been held for two teenage boys allegedly murdered by their mother in Sheffield.A church vigil has been held for two teenage boys allegedly murdered by their mother in Sheffield.

[...]

Dozens of people joined the vigil at the church on Bellhouse Road, where candles were lit for the boys.

Dawn Johnson, whose children played with Blake and Tristan, said: "They were just absolutely lovely, full of life.

"I'm here to join everyone else and remember the boys and to help the children come to terms with what has happened."

Vigil for boys killed in Sheffield

Happy birthday Blake, I hope his murderers have been haunted today !

 

[neteditor]

Inquests have been opened into the deaths of two teenage boys who died after police were called to a house in Sheffield.

Tristen and Blake Barrass, aged 13 and 14, died in hospital after officers had been to a semi-detached house in the Shiregreen area of the city on 24 May.

Inquest opens into boys' deaths

 

[Mellowmelly]

Inquests have been opened into the deaths of two teenage boys who died after police were called to a house in Sheffield.

Tristen and Blake Barrass, aged 13 and 14, died in hospital after officers had been to a semi-detached house in the Shiregreen area of the city on 24 May.

Inquest opens into boys' deaths

Forgive me if I'm asking a stupid question but why are they having an inquest ? I thought it would just go to trial seen as though the mother and uncle have been charged with murder. I'm not clued up on legal proceedings, TIA.

 

[Joolz1975]

Forgive me if I'm asking a stupid question but why are they having an inquest ? I thought it would just go to trial seen as though the mother and uncle have been charged with murder. I'm not clued up on legal proceedings, TIA.

I think an inquest is always held when a death is not caused by illness (probably not as simple as that).

It will be adjourned pending outcome of trial as I think the criminal investigation always takes priority.

 

[Mellowmelly]

I think an inquest is always held when a death is not caused by illness (probably not as simple as that).

It will be adjourned pending outcome of trial as I think the criminal investigation always takes priority.

Thanks for enlightening me, I always thought inquests were just for accidental, non homicidal deaths.

 

[neteditor]

I think an inquest is always held when a death is not caused by illness (probably not as simple as that).

It will be adjourned pending outcome of trial as I think the criminal investigation always takes priority.

In England and Wales an inquest is always held in the case of a sudden unexplained death, an accident, or a death in police or prison custody. (Rules are slightly different in Scotland).

Usually, the inquest is opened within a short space of time, a week or two, and then adjourned until evidence is gathered for the coroner. Some inquests will be held in front of juries but most are not.

Where criminal proceedings are taking place, the inquest will always be adjourned until after those have been completed.

An inquest is only to determine the cause of death, not who is responsible for it.

 

[Mellowmelly]

In England and Wales an inquest is always held in the case of a sudden unexplained death, an accident, or a death in police or prison custody. (Rules are slightly different in Scotland).

Usually, the inquest is opened within a short space of time, a week or two, and then adjourned until evidence is gathered for the coroner. Some inquests will be held in front of juries but most are not.

Where criminal proceedings are taking place, the inquest will always be adjourned until after those have been completed.

An inquest is only to determine the cause of death, not who is responsible for it.

Thank you, this is helpful to know.

 

[Bampot]

I'm just catching up as been away. That's really sad, the times of death. The nurses and doctors must have really tried hard to save them.

 

[Cherwell]

An inquest is only to determine the cause of death, not who is responsible for it.

To clarify, that's "cause" in the broad sense, isn't it? I mean accident, murder, natural causes etc, rather than the actual physical cause which is determined by a pathologist?

What is sometimes confusing is that in the USA a pathologist seems to be called a coroner

 

[neteditor]

To clarify, that's "cause" in the broad sense, isn't it? I mean accident, murder, natural causes etc, rather than the actual physical cause which is determined by a pathologist?

What is sometimes confusing is that in the USA a pathologist seems to be called a coroner

There's a good explanation on wikipedia if anyone wants to read more in-depth:

Inquests in England and Wales - Wikipedia

 

[Rosegold68]

Nothing new yet on this case

Hope surviving children are doing well