GUILTY UK - Blake, 14 & Tristan Barrass, 13, dead, 4 hospitalized, Sheffield, May 2019 *Arrests*

[Bampot]

The children that survived are 11, 10, 3 and 7 months.

Three attempted murder charges against two children.

Total speculation but do you think BM is the father to the two youngest. And it was those two they did not attempt to murder.

 

[Bootlace15]

I'd say that is likely. Can't believe her FB hasn't been shut down...

 

[Cherwell]

They appear to be half-siblings (same mother) and quite close in age, so I think probably not. But such things are not unknown so I am keeping an open mind for now.

 

[Bampot]

First pictures of 'poisoned' teenage brothers as their mother, 34, and man, 37, face murder charges | Daily Mail Online

 

[Bampot]

Sheffield murders – First pics of mum Sarah Barrass, 34, and brother, Brandon Machin 37, accused of murdering her teenage sons

 

[Lucy6226]

So mother and uncle. Just gets more unfathomable

 

[Plod]

Just saw that there is a thread for this tragic event. How awful.

Does anywhere else say he’s the uncle - DM not well known for getting facts right. I was thinking he is the mother’s partner.

Imho and I am purely speculating - This seems to be a case where there’s a lot of children , possibly with different fathers, who are not all around, and the mother has drug/drink/mental health issues. Perhaps it was a Cook house, perhaps the children were given drugs or drink , maybe accidentally, mixed up with food, or maybe as a sedation? And it’s all gone badly wrong.

How truly awful - such lovely looking boys.

 

[Alyce]

Just saw that there is a thread for this tragic event. How awful.

Does anywhere else say he’s the uncle - DM not well known for getting facts right. I was thinking he is the mother’s partner.

Imho and I am purely speculating - This seems to be a case where there’s a lot of children , possibly with different fathers, who are not all around, and the mother has drug/drink/mental health issues. Perhaps it was a Cook house, perhaps the children were given drugs or drink , maybe accidentally, mixed up with food, or maybe as a sedation? And it’s all gone badly wrong.

How truly awful - such lovely looking boys.

They are half siblings

 

[Plod]

They are half siblings

Yes

 

[Sleuthdolf]

Just saw that there is a thread for this tragic event. How awful.

Does anywhere else say he’s the uncle - DM not well known for getting facts right. I was thinking he is the mother’s partner.

Imho and I am purely speculating - This seems to be a case where there’s a lot of children , possibly with different fathers, who are not all around, and the mother has drug/drink/mental health issues. Perhaps it was a Cook house, perhaps the children were given drugs or drink , maybe accidentally, mixed up with food, or maybe as a sedation? And it’s all gone badly wrong.

How truly awful - such lovely looking boys.

They came out in bandages so looks like they were attacked in some way. I'd think that drugs were involved.

 

[Plod]

They came out in bandages so looks like they were attacked in some way. I'd think that drugs were involved.

Some outlets saying poisoned , and some mentioning bandages - could it be burns? Steam burns if a cook house?

 

[Alyce]

Yes

Sorry I meant SB and BM are half brother and sister

 

[Plod]

Sorry I meant SB and BM are half brother and sister

Oh ok thank you A.

 

[Sleuthdolf]

Some outlets saying poisoned , and some mentioning bandages - could it be burns? Steam burns if a cook house?

Not sure how somebody could get murdered by burns from a cook house, but I'm not knowledgeable about cook houses. Only just seen her brother has also been charged. I think I'm going to stay back here until more information comes out.

 

[Plod]

Not sure how somebody could get murdered by burns from a cook house, but I'm not knowledgeable about cook houses. Only just seen her brother has also been charged. I think I'm going to stay back here until more information comes out.

Just thinking that the younger kids may only have been burnt and they have survived m. But you’re right, I’ll shut up too until we know more.

 

[Bampot]

The mother has been charged with 3 counts of attempted murder against 2 children. Which I presume means two of the four surviving children were not harmed ie they did not try to murder two of them.

 

[suzyjackson]

Not sure how somebody could get murdered by burns from a cook house, but I'm not knowledgeable about cook houses. Only just seen her brother has also been charged. I think I'm going to stay back here until more information comes out.

You can never say never but cook houses aren't a thing in England imo.

When I saw that the other children came out in bandages I assumed some kind of knife wounds, interesting that the general assumption is burns - has that been confirmed?

 

[Plod]

No

You can never say never but cook houses aren't a thing in England imo.

When I saw that the other children came out in bandages I assumed some kind of knive wounds, interesting that the general assumption is burns - has that been confirmed?[/QUOTE
No just me speculating

 

[Sleuthdolf]

You can never say never but cook houses aren't a thing in England imo.

When I saw that the other children came out in bandages I assumed some kind of knife wounds, interesting that the general assumption is burns - has that been confirmed?

I don't imagine this has anything to do with a cook house anyway. Some articles have 'poisoned' in the headline. That's all I've seen (and the bandages, so looks like some kind of stabbing). Maybe they tried poisoning them (carbon monoxide), that failed so they stabbed them.

 

[Bampot]

First pictures of teens who died in Sheffield and mum charged with murder
Further info from court today

SB was shouting at BM in the dock