UK UK - Claudia Lawrence, 35, Chef, York University, 18 March 2009 #10

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id be interested to know, just as a straw pole, what group posters think the perp comes from...not who knows about it or who killed claudia, but the moving force behind it....her friends, a drug gang, a mixture of the two, a scorned boyfriend, or a jealous wife or partner....any other suggestions
 
For the life of me I never understood why people include her girl friends in the suspicion list ?
Even lovers who are shy in coming forward are not necessarily guilty of harming her.
We know of several friends / colleagues male and female,that the police never even arrested .
 
I dont know why they shouldn't be included because we dont know the motive.....alcohol, drugs and a sudden rush of blood to the head. can make you do funny things.

I hasten to add that we all should be led by the evidence...as you know, ive recently changed my mind about whether it was all planned and whatever our thoughts are now, we should. all be open to changing them
 
I dont know why they shouldn't be included because we dont know the motive.....alcohol, drugs and a sudden rush of blood to the head. can make you do funny things.

I hasten to add that we all should be led by the evidence...as you know, ive recently changed my mind about whether it was all planned and whatever our thoughts are now, we should. all be open to changing them
Her female friends should be off the suspicion list . They are a gold mine of information in this case and surely we would like them to contribute here if possible?!
And they are not likely to do this if we include them in the suspicion list !
They are victims too imo
 
Her female friends should be off the suspicion list . They are a gold mine of information in this case and surely we would like them to contribute here if possible?!
And they are not likely to do this if we include them in the suspicion list !
They are victims too imo

Everyones entitled to their own opinion.
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Im not discounting ANYONE and I mean ANYONE whoever they are
 
Her female friends should be off the suspicion list . They are a gold mine of information in this case and surely we would like them to contribute here if possible?!
And they are not likely to do this if we include them in the suspicion list !
They are victims too imo

PJ with respect her female friends are not going to come on here to offer a goldmine of information. The disappearance and suspected murder of Claudia Lawrence is still an open case so legally they would be subject to the restrictions in what they can dislcose publicly.
In my opinion the only reason they have appeared on a certain FB site is because it offers a safe and controlled way to interact with the public keeping the case in the public eye. Most likely their responses have been after consultation with communications officers within the NYP who would obviously closely monitered the site and the people who post there.
 
im not asking anyone to specify a person...im just asking what group you think the person comes from...eg friends, not male or female friends.

if they're innocent then of course they're victims too johnpaul....but I dont have enough information to say one way or the other....were back to the question of how you can be so sure.

also, I take it than any opinion is only how its going so far....if they have useful information and are innocent, then I dont see why this should put them off sharing it anonymously....I dont think you'd get an absolutely unanimous verdict here anyway
 
im not asking anyone to specify a person...im just asking what group you think the person comes from...eg friends, not male or female friends.

if they're innocent then of course they're victims too johnpaul....but I dont have enough information to say one way or the other....were back to the question of how you can be so sure.

also, I take it than any opinion is only how its going so far....if they have useful information and are innocent, then I dont see why this should put them off sharing it anonymously....I dont think you'd get an absolutely unanimous verdict here anyway

@cortina can I ask what you would consider useful information?

What questions would you ask if they did come on here?
 
oh, kir, there's the assumption that they would and were allowed to,answer me honestly, so, that being the case, I would. ask them if they knew who killed claudia, and, naturally, if they did, who it was and why they did it.

if they. honestly didn't know, id ask them why claudia was so convinced shed put her foot in it in the nags on that very busy weekend.

does anyone know if there any connections, apart from the surname, between Anthony Patrick, who lives in Heworth, a ms. Patrick who's a lecturer at the university of York and Robert John Patrick, who gives his address as a London one.....the major mentioned. rj Patrick as someone we might be interested in, and. I think I remember a couple of naughty things about him, but im either wrong or those things are just not on the internet any more.

for the record, my chief suspects at the moment are an alliance of an important person from the friends and one from the drugs ring, but like kir, im not discounting anyone from any area of life
 
PJ with respect her female friends are not going to come on here to offer a goldmine of information. The disappearance and suspected murder of Claudia Lawrence is still an open case so legally they would be subject to the restrictions in what they can dislcose publicly.
In my opinion the only reason they have appeared on a certain FB site is because it offers a safe and controlled way to interact with the public keeping the case in the public eye. Most likely their responses have been after consultation with communications officers within the NYP who would obviously closely monitered the site and the people who post there.
I would like to believe in the close relationship between police and her close friends but I’m not so sure after hearing at least one of them ie S C complaining that she has not heard anything from the police for months !
I think she said an update would be nice .
 
a cl0se relationship between her close friends and the police....im not talking about sc, but we have the police statement that close friends are not telling them things that could move the enquiry forward

popejohn, its obvious from what you've just said that you know sc at least and you're a staunch supporter of her friends in general.....so couldn't you please at least come clean to a certain degree...it would stop the rest of us chasing up blind alleys and wed stand a better chance of helping. to sort out this case.

I agree with you, though....the police dont. exactly seem to be covering themselves in glory
 
a cl0se relationship between her close friends and the police....im not talking about sc, but we have the police statement that close friends are not telling them things that could move the enquiry forward

popejohn, its obvious from what you've just said that you know sc at least and you're a staunch supporter of her friends in general.....so couldn't you please at least come clean to a certain degree...it would stop the rest of us chasing up blind alleys and wed stand a better chance of helping. to sort out this case.

I agree with you, though....the police dont. exactly seem to be covering themselves in glory
Re last sentence it’s not over till the fat lady sings .
I said it before and I’ll say it again I’ve never been to York in my life !
 
a cl0se relationship between her close friends and the police....im not talking about sc, but we have the police statement that close friends are not telling them things that could move the enquiry forward

popejohn, its obvious from what you've just said that you know sc at least and you're a staunch supporter of her friends in general.....so couldn't you please at least come clean to a certain degree...it would stop the rest of us chasing up blind alleys and wed stand a better chance of helping. to sort out this case.

I agree with you, though....the police dont. exactly seem to be covering themselves in glory

Over 1000 witness statements 100's of properties searched and hours and hours of cctv footage there should be enough there to work out who's lying.

Yes @cortina the police arent covering themselves in glory and comments on social media from disisusioned people are growing.

The police have to be reminded again that they need to keep the public onside!

The power of social media has grown and can provide a platform for amongst other things crowd funding which may be the way the public will be able to have more control over investigative technics and drive this case forward.

Recently the discussion moved to reward money.. Personally I think a reality check is needed here by the Lawrence family. Its obvious Claudia is not coming back alive!
Sell her house and use the money as a substanial reward and see what/who crawls out of the woodwork then.
 
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Over 1000 witness statements 100's of properties searched and hours and hours of cctv footage there should be enough there to work out who's lying.

Yes @cortina the police arent covering themselves in glory and comments on social media from disisusioned people are growing.

The police have to reminded again that they need to keep the public onside!

The power of social media has grown and can provide a platform for amongst other things crowd funding which may be the way the public will be able to have more control over investigative technics and drive this case forward.

Recently the discussion moved to reward money.. Personally I think a reality check is needed here by the Lawrence family. Its obvious Claudia is not coming back alive!
Sell her house and use the money as a substanial reward and see what/who crawls out of the woodwork then.
And the emphasis should be on giving her a decent Christian burial .
 
popejohn....ive never said you've been to York, but its evident. from your posts that you've spoken to sc....so please level with. us, as its obvious you dont think her friends are responsible, and id. just like to know how you can be so definite...we. all have our opinions. on here, but I dont think any of us. are as definite as you are
 
Over 1000 witness statements 100's of properties searched and hours and hours of cctv footage there should be enough there to work out who's lying.

I just thought I ought to correct the numbers in the above post

after more than 2,300 statements taken from more than
1,200 people; after nearly 3,500 police reports; 1,771 vehicles checked; 38
homes and business premises searched; 64 different scenes forensically
examined and more than 200 items tested for DNA, the police have hit a brick
wall.


taken from an aritcle in The Sun newspaper
 
That is an awful lot of work, no want of trying that’s for sure.
Now if police , because of the shear volume of people and suspects, eliminated some by checking her’s / their’s mobile footprints ,they would need to revisit these people .
I say this because of the late Acombe revelations!
For many years the police must have put Claudia in a different place when in fact she was actually at the Acombe area !
 
thats true, popejohn....are you saying she couldn't have met some of the suspects because they were only in heworth when she was in ac....couldnt they have met somewhere else.

I think its important for her remains to be recovered, but not as a bargaining chip to get people off any charges relating to her murder...because others would use the same tactic, apart from it being wrong in principle.

it should work the other way...you get punished if you dont reveal where the remains are.

I dont know how it works if people are living in fear of their lives for revealing things
 
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