UK UK - Claudia Lawrence, 35, Chef, York University, 18 March 2009 #12

[Tri-Lambda delta]

No need to be upset because I disagree with your point and methodology. You need to show the football shirt is clearly visible in the braking Ford Focus car cctv, rather than selecting a random car in a different location. Trying to connect disparate pieces of information with no solid evidence to support or link them other than a hunch does not make it correct.

A better line of enquiry would be the silver Ford Focus T reg parked outside Melrosegate P.O. in Oct 2009 and Mar 2010 (Googlemaps). No sign of a football hangar but correct car, model, colour and age as specified by NYP website and on the route CL used on a daily basis.

I'm not affected by you not understanding.

 

[oudzuid]

The 7:15pm TIME STAMP on the CCTV for 18th March 2009 places it in 'Nautical Twilight'... both images are in the same period. One at the start of the day and the other at the end. I'm sure you'll work out that the 1st picture was taken at a much later time and most likely after the phone call(s). But YOURS was the BEST query so far.

Don't

No need to be upset because I disagree with your point and methodology. You need to show the football shirt is clearly visible in the braking Ford Focus car cctv, rather than selecting a random car in a different location. Trying to connect disparate pieces of information with no solid evidence to support or link them other than a hunch does not make it correct.

A better line of enquiry would be the silver Ford Focus T reg parked outside Melrosegate P.O. in Oct 2009 and Mar 2010 (Googlemaps). No sign of a football hangar but correct car, model, colour and age as specified by NYP website and on the route CL used on a daily basis.

I think @Tri-Lambda delta Much discussion some months ago dismissed the footbal pendant back then.
agree @Tri-Lambda delta The one on the right is a morning shot and less neon because it is fast approaching sunrise whereas the one on left is taken in the evening and once sunset has expired Neon light will dominate. After this time it would be very difficult to ascertain the time of evening.

 

[oudzuid]

This is a shot of Claudia's Lounge on the table are 2 controllers one I think is sky I tried to zoom in on the tv stand but although I can see a sliver item on the shelf the glass table obscures clear view.
If she did have Sky. I understand Sky did offer a dating channel wether they did in 2009 you would have to check
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The Sky controller even in 2009 was black and not of either colour on the coffee table. I remember having Sky back then

 

[Tri-Lambda delta]

Don't agree @Tri-Lambda delta The one on the right is a morning shot and less neon because it is fast approaching sunrise whereas the one on left is taken in the evening and once sunset has expired Neon light will dominate. After this time it would be very difficult to ascertain the time of evening.

Same lamp posts, same angle, same period of day. 'Nautical Twilight'.

 

[oudzuid]

Same lamp posts, same angle, same period of day. 'Nautical Twilight'.

But neon streetlight switching off at that time of day as times are not always set at correct time. Therefore whatever research you do and whatever case you make it is only as reliable as the accuracy of streetlight time settings

 

[oudzuid]

Way-way back then ...I didnt show you the vehicle I do now (also with football shirts in its rear window) across the road from Limes Court. This recent addition was an update with more info. Showing that the info should not be dismissed as flippantly as the folk talking so loudly back then did. But hey... what's TRYING to solve it got to do with anything. Rhetorical. I'm just making noise. You suspects must be bricks.

I recall you showing a vehicle from when I looked back on all of the old posts @Tri-Lambda delta.

Was it not Hull City you mentioned as the football team??

 

[Vixey]

Today but not then you have a virtual electronic SIM and you only need one physical SIM

If Claudia had no internet or landline, how did Joan expect Claudia to do this! also is that a wired device,on the table at the end of sofa ?

 

[oudzuid]

If Claudia had no internet or landline, how did Joan expect Claudia to do this! also is that a wired device,on the table at the end of sofa ?

Its hard to make out @Vixey The wire could well just be part of the Cheese plant

 

[Tri-Lambda delta]

I recall you showing a vehicle from when I looked back on all of the old posts @Tri-Lambda delta.

Was it not Hull City you mentioned as the football team??

At this updated point in time. I'd say... scrap the exact 'TEAM'. The hanger in the rear window of a speeding vehicle meant something to whoever was the owner. If it was a hanging Steiff Bear and someone said NAHHH it was a Garfield drop the whole enquiry, I'd laugh. The enquiry is now... Looking for the owner of a car with a hanger. Close to Claudia. Hey there's one on the same street where she lives. Ahhhh wrong make of car. Dont enquire.

 

[Popejohn3]

This is a shot of Claudia's Lounge on the table are 2 controllers one I think is sky I tried to zoom in on the tv stand but although I can see a sliver item on the shelf the glass table obscures clear view.
If she did have Sky. I understand Sky did offer a dating channel wether they did in 2009 you would have to check
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These two photos are probably 7 days apart ?
Are they the famous slippers as they were found ?
Can anyone tell me : Did Claudia have a DVD player in front room or her bedroom . She was believed to be watching tv in her bedroom when her mother phoned ?

 

[oudzuid]

At this updated point in time. I'd say... scrap the exact 'TEAM'. The hanger in the rear window of a speeding vehicle meant something to whoever was the owner. If it was a hanging Steiff Bear and someone said NAHHH it was a Garfield drop the whole enquiry, I'd laugh. The enquiry is now... Looking for the owner of a car with a hanger. Close to Claudia. Hey there's one on the same street where she lives. Ahhhh wrong make of car. Dont enquire.

This was your post in June 2020 re Hull City:

"EMIRATES: Tuesday, 17 March 2009 Arsenal (2) vs Hull City (1) was the FA CUP QUARTER FINAL.

Hey Andyboy... well done YOU MADE ME FIND THIS! The WHITE KIT (speeding up Heworth) was another ARSENAL KIT...but WHITE.

The EMIRATES GAME (you mentioned 19th Dec 2009 must have been the one you were at) was for the league game of 2009 Arsenal vs Hull City. Here is the program... (but thank you, as you made me FIND THIS!) which NOW MEANS the #1 Suspect hangs a RED Arsenal Kit in his car... and the WHITE ARSENAL kit TOO! according to this 2009 evidence....

This is amazing evidence making the DRIVER a total Arsenal fan.

My #1Suspect is George Pavlou owner of the VUDU LOUNGE. The hanger in his car (parked outside his club Oct 2009) is a RED Arsenal one. The Heworth Rd car hanger ( 18th March 2009) is a WHITE Arsenal hanger. Both Pavlou Bros wanted the scrap yard owned by The Horwell Bros (Brother NH is now deceased, which is suspicious, the other LH had an affair with CL).

This is what made him my #1Suspect George Pavlou, of the Vudu Lounge, York, in 'sexual touching' court shame"

 

[oudzuid]

These two photos are probably 7 days apart ?
Are they the famous slippers as they were found ?
Can anyone tell me : Did Claudia have a DVD player in front room or her bedroom . She was believed to be watching tv in her bedroom when her mother phoned ?
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Correct @Popejohn3 A favourite programme shared by CL and her Mum. Location Location Location.

Aired back then-I believe on Ch4 between 20:00 and 21) this helped Joan to timestamp her call to CL.

 

[Vixey]

These two photos are probably 7 days apart ?
Are they the famous slippers as they were found ?
Can anyone tell me : Did Claudia have a DVD player in front room or her bedroom . She was believed to be watching tv in her bedroom when her mother phoned ?
N

Yes picture above fire / candles /wall colour diff in images x

 

[Vixey]

Yes picture above fire / candles /wall colour diff in images x

Yes picture above fire / candles /wall colour diff in images x

 

[Yozzer]

At this updated point in time. I'd say... scrap the exact 'TEAM'. The hanger in the rear window of a speeding vehicle meant something to whoever was the owner. If it was a hanging Steiff Bear and someone said NAHHH it was a Garfield drop the whole enquiry, I'd laugh. The enquiry is now... Looking for the owner of a car with a hanger. Close to Claudia. Hey there's one on the same street where she lives. Ahhhh wrong make of car. Dont enquire.

Could you provide a link to where the investigators have stated they are looking for a car with a hanger.

 

[Yozzer]

These two photos are probably 7 days apart ?
Are they the famous slippers as they were found ?
Can anyone tell me : Did Claudia have a DVD player in front room or her bedroom . She was believed to be watching tv in her bedroom when her mother phoned ?
N

There is possibly a dvd player on the shelf below the tv but the pic isn't clear enough. I recall having a separate silver controller for my dvd player back in the day. I can also see what look like VHS Videos or DVDs.

 

[oudzuid]

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Looks like the wall colour of Mustard has been given a makeover @Vixey

 

[Popejohn3]

Correct @Popejohn3 A favourite programme shared by CL and her Mum. Location Location Location.

Aired back then-I believe on Ch4 between 20:00 and 21) this helped Joan to timestamp her call to CL.

I would have thought the phone company would have verified that too .

 

[Popejohn3]

Yes picture above fire / candles /wall colour diff in images x

And the obvious now fading tulips .who bought these tulips ? Did she buy them ?

There is possibly a dvd player on the shelf below the tv but the pic isn't clear enough. I recall having a separate silver controller for my dvd player back in the day. I can also see what look like VHS Videos or DVDs.

there is also a video of her front room the camera spans from the left to right but I cannot find it at the mo help !
It was shown on a tv programme and the tulips had faded by then .

 

[keep-it-real]

The Sky controller even in 2009 was black and not of either colour on the coffee table. I remember having Sky back then

If you check Getty images and Alamay stock images 20o8 model were grey sorry cant link it because not sure of copyright.. but decidedly lighter than the one on the coffee table so maybe control for other entertainment players