UK UK - Claudia Lawrence, 35, York University, 18 March 2009 - Chef - #1

[ruined detroit]

I suppose the police are trying to shake everyone up and get things going. It will not look good though if they arrest too many people on suspicion of murder and bail them all.... but something tells me this will be the only way to light a fire but even then some of them might stand the heat.

 

[sar2them1984]

I suppose the police are trying to shake everyone up and get things going. It will not look good though if they arrest too many people on suspicion of murder and bail them all.... but something tells me this will be the only way to light a fire but even then some of them might stand the heat.

Iirc this is the second arrest for murder, the other(s) where for perverting the course of justice. Still, you're right too many arrests won't look favourable

 

[sar2them1984]

I will link to msm shortly but I wasn't aware (though I should have guessed) that police were filming all those who turned up to watch the cctv footage put on display last week

 

[CoverMeCagney]

I suppose the police are trying to shake everyone up and get things going. It will not look good though if they arrest too many people on suspicion of murder and bail them all.... but something tells me this will be the only way to light a fire but even then some of them might stand the heat.

I think (and hope) you're right. Certainly seems plausible that multiple people know things they haven't reported. Over time relationships and loyalties change, we can only hope that someone will do the right thing and let slip that one little nugget of information that the police need.

 

[CoverMeCagney]

I will link to msm shortly but I wasn't aware (though I should have guessed) that police were filming all those who turned up to watch the cctv footage put on display last week

Yep I read that too... brilliant game plan if it works. They will have all manner of (non police) experts looking at it.

 

[Deleted member 102539]

Is there a married man (York area) with connections to Ontario/Canada, who has left UK 2009 and returned 2010?


http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...schin-42-Orangeville-29-Aug-2010-3&p=11542759

 

[sar2them1984]

Is there a married man (York area) with connections to Ontario/Canada, who has left UK 2009 and returned 2010?


http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...schin-42-Orangeville-29-Aug-2010-3&p=11542759

Not that I'm aware of, certainly nothing been released by the Police. Iirc they released information relating to a man who lived/travelled to Cyprus but that was the extent of "abroad" connections. Of course anything is possible.. can I ask why you think this case may be related?

 

[Alyce]

Officers from North Yorkshire Police were yesterday pictured searching a property in a quiet cul-de-sac in York. Another property was searched overnight, and the man was bailed earlier today

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...dia-Lawrence-released-bail.html#ixzz3VO3VRCz8
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So it looks as though they did search 2 properties

 

[Alyce]

Was the house that was searched his actual home address. Many new papers are stating it's a property linked to his arrest? Just a play on words?

Just bringing this post back up, as it was you who picked up on the TWO properties search Sar - sounds as though you are right, unless it is sloppy reporting by the DM ( perish the thought ! )

 

[sar2them1984]

I agree it is rather ambiguous. What first raised suspicions for me that it may be another property other than the home address way the way in which the press reported the arrest and search. Admittedly it's only words but I'm trained to look at what is or isn't said and the way it is said every day in my job.

Firstly the press reported that the person arrested was "a man from York". Now cmiiw but that is not normally stated, especially if the person is local. But the main thing was the fact that the police kept saying "a property linked to the arrested" as opposed to the arrested home which is the term they normally use

 

[Salino]

I agree it is rather ambiguous. What first raised suspicions for me that it may be another property other than the home address way the way in which the press reported the arrest and search. Admittedly it's only words but I'm trained to look at what is or isn't said and the way it is said every day in my job.

Firstly the press reported that the person arrested was "a man from York". Now cmiiw but that is not normally stated, especially if the person is local. But the main thing was the fact that the police kept saying "a property linked to the arrested" as opposed to the arrested home which is the term they normally use

So perhaps a workplace or a rental address? My hunch was that the culdesac house might be a rental...

This investigation seems to involve so many people. It must be a web of connections, friendship and loyalties to expose.

 

[Salino]

A question. Reading the Mail article above the police reiterate no identification and seem to be implying that this is part of the case they are building?

Why could that be?

 

[sar2them1984]

Well, police obviously felt that they had enough evidence to arrest him on suspicion of murder and not a lesser charge of say, perverting the course of justice so perhaps upon interviewing him they realised that their evidence wasn't as strong as they initially believed. So they let him go in the hope of finding stronger evidence (hence the case building statement). Not naming hi. To me sounds like they are not totally convinced they will get the evidence they need to charge him and so are doing some serious covering

 

[sar2them1984]

So perhaps a workplace or a rental address? My hunch was that the culdesac house might be a rental...

This investigation seems to involve so many people. It must be a web of connections, friendship and loyalties to expose.

Ok so looking at available online records and the property we believed was being searched hasn't been on the market or sold for a considerable number of years - certainly since online recording of such began. Doesn't mean much though. It could have been in the same family for a number.of years or a council property.*perhaps someone local could confirm if there are other council properties in the cul de sac*

I don't think it is private rental as they tended to have been snapped up over the last 10 years or so and nothing is showing up. Also rental properties tend to get sold on quite often especially after a dip in the rental market or the property holder experiencing problem tenants, again this does not seem to be the case.

 

[Cherwell]

Detective Superintendent Dai Malyn, of North Yorkshire Police, repeated his plea for people not to identify the suspect.

He said: 'I am very grateful to the media and the public for supporting my request that this individual should under no circumstances be identified, either in traditional media or on social media platforms.

'That is because identification is an issue and publishing this man's identity could cause serious harm to my investigation.

'This continues to be the case, even though the man has been released on bail, and I must ask that the media and public continue to support me and make no attempt to identify him, his place of work or his home address.'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...dia-Lawrence-released-bail.html#ixzz3VO3VRCz8

I feel I have to say that in view of the very clear requests from the police, the relentless attempts here to identify this man's possible address have made me uneasy.

I'm also shocked that the Daily Mail is allowing comments on that story.

 

[HydraMan]

Work surrounding her Samsung D900 mobile phone showed from cell site activity that she was in the Acomb area of York in the weeks leading up to her disappearance, and that the phone was deliberately turned off by someone at about 12:10am Thursday, March 19 2009

This report is incorrect (and so is the Wikipedia entry on the case). The correct time is 12:10pm (see here) and it is known it rang twice (but was unanswered) that morning when her work manager tried to contact her.

Also they could not tell if it was turned off or ran out battery, but it was assumed the former probably because they thought she left as normal in the morning and would have made sure it was charged overnight. She had no land line or computer so relied heavily on her mobile and was and avid caller and texter by all accounts, so she would have ensured it was kept charged.

Now they are focusing on the previous evening it is possible it was not charged up, so it could have run out of charge the following day.

 

[skibaboo]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...dia-Lawrence-released-bail.html#ixzz3VO3VRCz8

I feel I have to say that in view of the very clear requests from the police, the relentless attempts here to identify this man's possible address have made me uneasy.

I'm also shocked that the Daily Mail is allowing comments on that story.

In our defense they did not request that until AFTER we were looking, in initial statements the police only requested his identity not be revealed in media and social media. There was no mention of his home address and we adhered to TOS as the home was shown in photos in MSM.

If the Mods now feel the maps and photos are breaching police requests I completely understand if the posts are removed.

 

[skibaboo]

A question. Reading the Mail article above the police reiterate no identification and seem to be implying that this is part of the case they are building?

Why could that be?

I'm starting to wonder if they are seeking more than 1 killer

 

[Alyce]

This report is incorrect (and so is the Wikipedia entry on the case). The correct time is 12:10pm (see here) and it is known it rang twice (but was unanswered) that morning when her work manager tried to contact her.

Also they could not tell if it was turned off or ran out battery, but it was assumed the former probably because they thought she left as normal in the morning and would have made sure it was charged overnight. She had no land line or computer so relied heavily on her mobile and was and avid caller and texter by all accounts, so she would have ensured it was kept charged.

Now they are focusing on the previous evening it is possible it was not charged up, so it could have run out of charge the following day.

Thanks for that........... My initial thought - based on the 12.10AM report - was that something happened at that time ( based on the belief that CL usually had a fairly early night for work the next day, so if she was switching her phone off, she would have done so long before midnight. )

But 12.10PM moves it back to something happening on the Thursday morning

 

[Alyce]

In our defense they did not request that until AFTER we were looking, in initial statements the police only requested his identity not be revealed in media and social media. There was no mention of his home address and we adhered to TOS as the home was shown in photos in MSM.

If the Mods now feel the maps and photos are breaching police requests I completely understand if the posts are removed.

That was my reading of things. The initial request was that no one reveal the name of the person .... the request re the home address was only put out yesterday