GUILTY UK - Constance Marten & Mark Gordon charged in death of baby Victoria, GUILTY on all counts incl retrial on manslaughter, 5 Jan 2023 #9

[Teignmouth 22]

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Constance Marten and Mark Gordon latest: Judge admonishes couple in court as sentencing hearing over death of their baby takes place

Constance Marten and Mark Gordon are being sentenced over the death of their newborn baby while they were on the run from the authorities in 2023. Watch live from the Old Bailey as the judge hands down the sentence.

news.sky.com

I wonder if this will also include the defendant's likely breach of etiquette?

I've never heard a defendant commenting during a sentencing hearing, perhaps they fix it somehow so we can only hear what the judge is saying. I'm expecting him to pause to tell them off at some point.

 

[Sarahlou]

I'll be so glad to never hear about these two again.
I hope the judge gives them the maximum sentence allowed under the guidelines.

 

[Alyce]

Live coverage has started

Constance Marten and Mark Gordon jailed for 14 years over death of their baby

The judge says the couple have not shown any "genuine expression of remorse", after baby Victoria's death in a tent in 2023.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Skigh]

I'll be so glad to never hear about these two again.
I hope the judge gives them the maximum sentence allowed under the guidelines.

I think we might have to wait a while until appeals have been dealt with !

 

[QB2022]

£43000 income in 4 months from.trust funds.

 

[iamshadow21]

£43000 income in 4 months from.trust funds.

Just think how many low income families are struggling to make do on even a fraction of that.

This case is all about the choices of two adults who didn't care about the welfare of their infant. Because their poverty was completely artificial.

MOO

 

[QB2022]

It blows my mind, they literally could have employed a full time nanny a d housed them beautifully with that

 

[iamshadow21]

It blows my mind, they literally could have employed a full time nanny a d housed them beautifully with that

Exactly. And if they had, social services would have deemed them compliant.

This whole thing was a petulant toddlerish 'nobody tells me what to do' series of actions. Which would be fine if the only people they were putting at risk were themselves. Adults get to make those kinds of choices. A child doesn't.

MOO

 

[Alyce]

Judge will sentence on basis of death by hypothermia

 

[OceanElix]

BBC live feed says it's been suspended for legal reasons. Any thoughts on what the reason may be? Disruption maybe?

ETA feed now back up!

 

[V347]

BBC live feed says it's been suspended for legal reasons. Any thoughts on what the reason may be? Disruption maybe?

ETA feed now back up!

I thought it was something to do with Gordon’s past offences?

 

[bobbymkii]

BBC live feed says it's been suspended for legal reasons. Any thoughts on what the reason may be? Disruption maybe?

ETA feed now back up!

no that usually happens if the judge needs to give graphic details or mention names of young people in open court who cannot be named publicly for legal reasons

 

[Tealgrove]

Oh Boy!

I’ve followed this case from afar and I’m not sure I’ve ever posted in this thread.

They are disgusting. Their behaviour is appalling.

I hope they both get the max.

 

[rhino]

18 years for MG, must serve 14!

 

[Alyce]

Gordon
18 years

14 years.
Two thirds in prison = 9.5 years.
Less remand time 2.5 years.
7 years total in prison
Out on licence for 4.5 years
Then 4 years extended licence sentence


Marten
14 years
Two thirds in prison 9.5 years
Less remand time 2.5 years
7 years total in prison
Then out on licence



Just edited again after reading more reports

 

[V347]

only serving 2/3 of each sentence and then on licence

Did I hear that right??

 

[bmacmillan1]

While it's her daughter, I still cannot understand why Marten''s mother is protecting her and writing a glowing characterreference of support which clearly is not the truth.
If both are not kept in prison until her child bearing years are over Gordon will make sure she becomes pregnant again.

 

[Skigh]

only serving 2/3 of each sentence and then on licence

Did I hear that right??

Even with 2/3 served it is longer than I thought they might get. I also think it will make appealing the sentences more difficult than if he had given them significantly longer ones.

 

[Innotts]

I hope the time she serves will be long enough to see her through her fertile years!

 

[Teignmouth 22]

18 years for Gordon....14 in prison

Marten 14 years - two thirds only- then out on licence

No sentence could ever be long enough for what they did to that poor little mite.

R.I.P. Baby Victoria