Curious if the word mayonnaise was mentioned and how many times.
We don’t know what she was doing.
He is such an idiot!The prosecution has claimed Victoria was likely to have died from hypothermia in cold conditions in the tent or was smothered.
Gordon denied it, telling jurors that at the time they were in a state of "crisis" and had exercised "parental judgment".
"It may not be ideal. If the baby was left outside in cold conditions then that would be a no-brainer," he said.
Constance Marten's partner denies responsibility for death of their baby
The partner of wealthy aristocrat Constance Marten has denied responsibility...hellorayo.co.uk
BBM a huge understatement - IMO of course
I am very suspicious and distrusting of SS … what has been presented in terms of accommodation, and their behavior & “choices” in terms of childcare is enough “catalogue” for me.
A member of the public spotted them and called the police. I beleive they had been shopping and using a cashpoint
www.lbc.co.uk
The judges decision was made on the evidence put forward by SS. I did say in my post that the agreed facts probably would not include anything prejudicial about the defendants.
What's outside the agreed facts may be heavily contested - the words "stolen by the state" were used by one witness - and no assumptions should be made about it if there's no evidence about it. Also both prosecution and defence are allowed to comment in their closing speeches on the absence of certain witnesses. ("You have not heard from X. You may suspect, on the basis of what you have heard from other witnesses, that...")
What is the logical chain of argument that works to the contrary of what CM's defence counsel is saying about the relevance of MG's convictions in the USA?In a closing speech on Wednesday, Marten’s barrister, Tom Godfrey, said: ...........
“This case is not about what could have been done differently.”
He rejected any suggestion the defendants had made a “nefarious pact” not to answer questions, having each cut short their evidence before they could be cross-examined.
Mr Godfrey suggested Gordon’s decision was sparked by the jurors being told about his 1989 rape conviction in the United States, and two assaults on police officers at a maternity unit in 2017, where Marten gave birth to their first child.
He said: “Why did you hear about those matters? Because Mark Gordon sought to mislead you about his character by telling you he had empathy and respect for the law.
“We say these convictions, and ones from Wales from 2017, are of no assistance whatsoever in determining how baby Victoria died.
“We ask you to ignore them, as with a lot of smoke and mirrors put up, and focus on the issue in this case. How did baby Victoria die? That is what this case is about.
more at the link ...........
Constance Marten victim of ‘relentless and dogged’ smears, court told
Marten and convicted rapist Mark Gordon are on trial at the Old Bailey accused of the manslaughter of their newborn baby Victoria.www.irishnews.com
The BIBs are mine. I know barristers have to do the best for their client, but really ?
CM & MG could have / should have had legal representation during the “child removal” process … guessing Mark G brought his Magna Carta.
I thought the evidence about MG prior crimes was not given until after he had refused cross examination?In a closing speech on Wednesday, Marten’s barrister, Tom Godfrey, said: ...........
“This case is not about what could have been done differently.”
He rejected any suggestion the defendants had made a “nefarious pact” not to answer questions, having each cut short their evidence before they could be cross-examined.
Mr Godfrey suggested Gordon’s decision was sparked by the jurors being told about his 1989 rape conviction in the United States, and two assaults on police officers at a maternity unit in 2017, where Marten gave birth to their first child.
He said: “Why did you hear about those matters? Because Mark Gordon sought to mislead you about his character by telling you he had empathy and respect for the law.
“We say these convictions, and ones from Wales from 2017, are of no assistance whatsoever in determining how baby Victoria died.
“We ask you to ignore them, as with a lot of smoke and mirrors put up, and focus on the issue in this case. How did baby Victoria die? That is what this case is about.
more at the link ...........
Constance Marten victim of ‘relentless and dogged’ smears, court told
Marten and convicted rapist Mark Gordon are on trial at the Old Bailey accused of the manslaughter of their newborn baby Victoria.
The BIBs are mine. I know barristers have to do the best for their client, but really ?
The barrister only explains MGs decision not to be cross examined. He gives no reason for his client CM refusing cross examination though?CM continues to be represented by her barrister Tom Godfrey (originally the junior to Francis FitzGibbon), who is making his closing speech in her defence.
Constance Marten victim of ‘relentless and dogged’ smears, court told
Marten and convicted rapist Mark Gordon are on trial at the Old Bailey accused of the manslaughter of their newborn baby Victoria.www.thenational.scot
I dont understand why he is talking about MG at all. He is not his client. He tells us why MG refused cross examination but not why CM did. Very strange
