UK UK - Corrie McKeague, 23, Bury St Edmunds, 24 September 2016 #17

[Northern Light]

I don't know the date but I've had a look at the capacity of a bin lorry and I estimate that every metre depth of the 920 sqm might be 40 full lorry loads, so 320 loads for the full 8m depth.

I have no idea how many lorries would empty per day - would it be 30 so approx 10 days worth or 15 and 20 days of further collections

Does anyone have any idea?

263 tonnes a day going to landfill, is all I have (eadt.co.uk), so would be x amount of days and x amount of trucks every day, as you say, till they closed that section off. A lot of waste.

 

[AG88]

That's my theory. Something happened to Corrie within minutes of the Greenwoods camera turning away (mugging of his phone/wallet that went too far?) and he was placed into one of the general waste bins in the other HS. Phone being old/not iPhone/tatty case/locked it was dumped into the HS recycling bin as the perp(s) walked away? This other bin was then collected sometime that morning. These bins may have been taken for testing late last month during the 'other HS buildings' search and only in recent days got back results?

I posted along these lines this morning, I'm thinking this is the most likely scenario by far

 

[suzyjackson]

263 tonnes a day going to landfill, is all I have (eadt.co.uk), so would be x amount of days and x amount of trucks every day, as you say, till they closed that section off. A lot of waste.

Ok so again just from general google results that would be about 20 large trucks per day and which is maybe 2 weeks of rubbish post 24/09 which is probably about right if the police stopped that part of the site being used in the second week of October so from my rough calculations it all hange together

 

[eilyfletch]

Will cadaver dogs be used in the search at landfill?i thought no, smells too distracting and dangerous. But my brother says probably and when i googled it dogs have been used in other cases

 

[TheTruthWillOut]

I don't know the date but I've had a look at the capacity of a bin lorry and I estimate that every metre depth of the 920 sqm might be 40 full lorry loads, so 320 loads for the full 8m depth.

I have no idea how many lorries would empty per day - would it be 30 so approx 10 days worth or 15 and 20 days of further collections

Does anyone have any idea?

It is quite a lot of waste for sure. Roughly 3x Olympic swimming pools worth. 50mx25mx2m x3=7500m3, 30x30x8=7200m3.

 

[Shiressleuth]

JMO but I think the Corrie white bike is a coincidental red herring. As unlikely as this may sound, and again, only my personal opinion and theory, I think it may be a display bike from a cycle shop. The rectangle dangling in the middle of the handlebars looks like a price tag from the bike shop chain, Cycle King.

The bike itself appears to be a Viking road bike.

A coincidental red herring. Hmmm same as accidentally on purpose then? I must warn u drink has been taken. England beat Wales today in the 6 nations.

 

[TheTruthWillOut]

Will cadaver dogs be used in the search at landfill?i thought no, smells too distracting and dangerous. But my brother says probably and when i googled it dogs have been used in other cases

I'm not sure to be honest (how many landfill sites are searched in the UK for bodies?) but even allowing for the amount of waste I doubt it will take too long to find a body Forensic processing thereafter will take the time....

 

[Shiressleuth]

They DEFINITELY know more than we do and will only release the bare minimum to get info back! They also said they are keeping all lines of enquiry going but they will have an order of priority in doing things.
There is so much misinformation out in this case now it is hard to follow but the bike looks white in one picture, CM had a white bike in the background of one of his pictures, (apologies I cannot find the pic with CM & his white bike but it is on MSM somewhere)is it too much of a coincidence that this could be CM's bike or a mate having borrowed it or a perp having stolen it? So many questions too few answers! All MOO.:tantrum:

Eveyone knows more than us. We know diddly squat.

 

[Shiressleuth]

It is quite a lot of waste for sure. Roughly 3x Olympic swimming pools worth. 50mx25mx2m x3=7500m3, 30x30x8=7200m3.

Get a big dry building set up and a conveyor belt and get it done. The next couple of months will be the wettest so get it done properly under cover otherwise it will be a nightmare.

 

[TheTruthWillOut]

Get a big dry building set up and a conveyor belt and get it done. The next couple of months will be the wettest so get it done properly under cover otherwise it will be a nightmare.

Yeah I'm sure something along these lines or like the recent Ben Needham search. I think it was said the site operators are putting in access ramps and the like right now.

 

[Shiressleuth]

Jumping off your post but not particularly directed at you.

tbh I don't understand the relevance of whether his colleagues missed him over the weekend. The clue is in the words "work colleagues" , why would they notice he wasn't there, they are a mixed group of young people who don't have to look after each other and aren't responsible for each other.

I will be the first to apologise if it turns out that Corrie is dead but wouldn't be if one of the RAF people had worried about him over the weekend or even that he would have been found any quicker. IMO there is no situation in which the police would have been alerted any earlier.

JMO

They are not work colleagues but brothers in arms and they will know what his plans were and his mindset. I do not accept they know nothing. JMO.

 

[suzyjackson]

Get a big dry building set up and a conveyor belt and get it done. The next couple of months will be the wettest so get it done properly under cover otherwise it will be a nightmare.

I guess you don't even need a building, a conveyor belt from one part of the site to another that runs through any kind of tent would do but manpower's going to be an issue Id say although it depends what they are looking for. The phone would need detailed hand sorting, a body is a very different matter

 

[suzyjackson]

They are not work colleagues but brothers in arms and they will know what his plans were and his mindset. I do not accept they know nothing. JMO.

Do you think they know what happened to C? I really hope they don't, to have put the family through this is unimaginable to me

 

[suzyjackson]

Interesting development on the ransom money

http://www.findcorrie.co.uk/reward-must-be-claimed-by-5pm-on-saturday-18th-february-2017/

Only one week left to claim it, makes me wonder if the family now have a suspect in mind too

 

[Shiressleuth]

I really hope not - I was hoping he'd run away to a circus on an adventure

Are you being serious cos I did suggest similar at one time. How I wish it were true.

 

[Shiressleuth]

Do you think they know what happened to C? I really hope they don't, to have put the family through this is unimaginable to me

Apart from his family who would be closer to him realistically?

 

[GirlfromUK]

Interesting development on the ransom money

http://www.findcorrie.co.uk/reward-must-be-claimed-by-5pm-on-saturday-18th-february-2017/

Only one week left to claim it, makes me wonder if the family now have a suspect in mind too

I wonder whether it is a last-ditch attempt to flush someone out who knows something, also with the reference to a 'life-changing sum of money' .

 

[Shiressleuth]

From the police update, my bolding

"The area of the landfill site where waste collected from Bury St Edmunds that morning was deposited has not had further items put onto it since police alerted the site, early in the investigation, to the possibility that this may need to be searched"



I have seen some suggestion that Corrie was in one of the other bins that was collected later in the week or that he was kept somewhere for some time before being hidden in the bin. This can't be true, the police are clearly saying that they are talking about the 4am (ish) collection or another one before 12 noon on the 24th September. If they are looking for a body IMO the most likely scenario is that he volutarily got into the cab and something happened to him afterwards and he was moved to the rubbish area at a later stage however I can't see how a perp would hope to get away with this when the body should have been immediately spotted during the sorting process.

I'd hoped that thinkng the search through would have helped me to come to a workable theory but, no, I'm still stumped.

Carry on brainstormng please, I need some more thoughts

At this point it doesn't matter how or if he is there. They are searching to eliminate that avenue so the investigation can move on. They obviously have no other more important leads atm.

 

[Shiressleuth]

I don't know about guards but there are gates which can be closed out of hours close to the entrance from the roundabout on the A10, so surrepticiously dumping a body would mean parking beside a main road and lugging the corpse along the roadway to one of the dumping areas, past a guard point that might or might not be manned overnight. Risky.

Why would you bother? There are thousands of acres of forest fairly nearby in which a body could disappear for decades, possibly forever, at far less risk to a killer or killers.

Completely agree. I said earlier today there's easier ways but you have fully explained what I was too lazy to expand upon. Not that I am an experienced body disposer but JMO.

 

[Shiressleuth]

But yet the police update also states:

"It was known, and CCTV shows, that a waste lorry made a collection in the area a short time after the last confirmed sighting of Corrie and the lorry was seized in the early stages of the enquiry for forensic examination. This did not reveal any traces of him, however the waste collection has been one line of enquiry police have persisted with and kept under constant review."

This reads like a reference to the known 4.20ish recycling collection (timing wise) but is referred to as a waste collection.

I think recycling is still waste - it's just recyclable waste!

"the waste collection" i.e. all waste.