UK UK - Corrie McKeague, 23, Bury St Edmunds, 24 September 2016 #17

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  • #721
No, I mean without C phone. Can they track them to landfill etc. from their phone, so if they can get permission, as persons of interest, then maybe delaying the landfill search, may also be for phone search warrants for those just ID'd.MOO

I didnt explain my answer well. I don't mean the physical phone but the phone pings and data. LE can and may even have already done a tower dump of the mast data for that period anyway. I see the point you are making about the delay and I agree. Re the NU recent interview she explains why she has withdrawn the reward and it makes sense what she says. If the landfill search is delayed, I wonder if the reward claim period will be extended therefore?
 
  • #722
Is this statement consistent with what we have been told for months? I thought the phone was traced to BM and stopped there. Now we have it being traced towards Cambridge, which I assume is towards the landfill that will some day be searched. So if that has always been known, why have they waited so long to search this landfill? This case is one misinformation after another. If they knew it continued on after BM why have they not said so???? Maybe everyone in the world should be checking their backyard, garden or garage for Corrie. I think eventually we will be told he might be there.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2891059/missing-raf-corrie-mckeague-delayed-site-cleared/

"Police say they traced his mobile phone to a spot between Bury and Cambridge before the signal vanished and the route was on a journey made by a bin lorry on the day Corrie disappeared."
 
  • #723
OK Folks I have tried to put the story of Corrie disappearing to the back of my mind for a brief few seconds 24 to be precise. I have tried to put my self in the position of someone for what ever reason asked me what happens next in the video? Just to look at it without particular reason.

I have to say I am now of the thought Corrie was looking for a place to take a sneaky leak/pee. Which also means he was fully aware and not that wasted and knew what was around him otherwise he just would have taken a leak/pee anywhere without caring or looking. Just alternative thoughts

R
 
  • #724
Is this statement consistent with what we have been told for months? I thought the phone was traced to BM and stopped there. Now we have it being traced towards Cambridge, which I assume is towards the landfill that will some day be searched. So if that has always been known, why have they waited so long to search this landfill? This case is one misinformation after another. If they knew it continued on after BM why have they not said so???? Maybe everyone in the world should be checking their backyard, garden or garage for Corrie. I think eventually we will be told he might be there.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2891059/missing-raf-corrie-mckeague-delayed-site-cleared/

"Police say they traced his mobile phone to a spot between Bury and Cambridge before the signal vanished and the route was on a journey made by a bin lorry on the day Corrie disappeared."

Phone last pinged in Barton Mills at 04:00? Even by their standards that is poor.
 
  • #725
Understood! I had misread totally I would hope they could do that sort of thing

R

I watched a tv program last night where LE had tracked phone pings travelling together. The victim and the perp's phone pings went on the same journey, stopped still for 2 hours and then only the perp's phone continued the journey. No further pings came from the victim's phone as it had been buried with her. LE were suspicious of the perp from the off though and tracked his phone so would it make a difference if SP had several suspects in the frame? Could they track all their phones to see if there were any that tallied with C's? Also, the program was American so not sure if their laws are different to ours?


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As I have already pointed out, drinking in his car would NOT have been illegal, and drinking even large quantities of alcohol does not immediately make one over the drink drive limit.

He could have been over the limit within 20 minutes. It seems likely he hadn't eaten for some hours before going out (we know he bought a large quantity of food in the early hours) and according to earlier reports he was drinking vodka.

http://science.howstuffworks.com/alcohol3.htm
 
  • #728
OK Folks I have tried to put the story of Corrie disappearing to the back of my mind for a brief few seconds 24 to be precise. I have tried to put my self in the position of someone for what ever reason asked me what happens next in the video? Just to look at it without particular reason.

I have to say I am now of the thought Corrie was looking for a place to take a sneaky leak/pee. Which also means he was fully aware and not that wasted and knew what was around him otherwise he just would have taken a leak/pee anywhere without caring or looking. Just alternative thoughts

R

Which brings me on to my next thoughts. I looked at the first video 2nd if that makes sense with the same mindset. I still see someone at the beginning that doesn't appear that p**** but as soon as people are seen the drunkenness appears to set in with the drop of xyz item and the wobble.

As for sleeping for two hours in a door way I can't get my hat on that the CCTV operators didn't organise or appear to liaise with appropriate organisations to check a sleeping person is beyond beggars belief.
 
  • #729
Is this statement consistent with what we have been told for months? I thought the phone was traced to BM and stopped there. Now we have it being traced towards Cambridge, which I assume is towards the landfill that will some day be searched. So if that has always been known, why have they waited so long to search this landfill? This case is one misinformation after another. If they knew it continued on after BM why have they not said so???? Maybe everyone in the world should be checking their backyard, garden or garage for Corrie. I think eventually we will be told he might be there.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2891059/missing-raf-corrie-mckeague-delayed-site-cleared/

"Police say they traced his mobile phone to a spot between Bury and Cambridge before the signal vanished and the route was on a journey made by a bin lorry on the day Corrie disappeared."

Well a spot between Bury and Cambridge could be BM, Milton, Newmarket, Red Lodge, Mildenhall etc. It's 30 miles at least between BSE and Cambridge. It was supposedly within the BM mast area (approx radius 3 miles) till 8 a.m. till the battery died, or so we have previously been told.
 
  • #730
I am so sorry I have missed this previously

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/c/uk-scotland-39009408

This takes some doing from a parent and I sincerely hope the search for Corrie doesn't end in a landfill site. Both Mother and Father in their own ways are advising us they are looking for a deceased Corrie and not a live Corrie. I actually think if we can we need to help them find the culprit/s and wait until the search is over and the results of the search . I am going to bow out for now and continue reading quietly. I found the BBC Scotland interview very sad and think we should leave the LE, Family and experts to get on with the job in hand until we may be required again with our wild theories and ideas.

Regards to All
Reacher
 
  • #731
I didnt explain my answer well. I don't mean the physical phone but the phone pings and data. LE can and may even have already done a tower dump of the mast data for that period anyway. I see the point you are making about the delay and I agree. Re the NU recent interview she explains why she has withdrawn the reward and it makes sense what she says. If the landfill search is delayed, I wonder if the reward claim period will be extended therefore?
Thanks, tower dump, would be good. Nicola was pushing for more info on the BBC interviews this evening, as to information, in pinpointing specific areas to search, in the landfill, but to extend the timeframe, would mean they don't have the info to locate him, and if they have a perp, or perps, under suspicion, by extending, they would realise this too. Personally I think they should extend but the donar, may have put a timescale on it. If that's the case it's out of their hands. JMO.
 
  • #732
Well a spot between Bury and Cambridge could be BM, Milton, Newmarket, Red Lodge, Mildenhall etc. It's 30 miles at least between BSE and Cambridge. It was supposedly within the BM mast area (approx radius 3 miles) till 8 a.m. till the battery died, or so we have previously been told.

No, no, no, no. All these months there have story after story about how the Lorry and the phone made its way to BM. And there have been MSM stories about where this lorry went and how impossible it was for Corrie to be in the truck. There were stories the only bin emptied had 33 lbs in it. Then stories - well even if Corrie had been emptied into the Truck this garbage is sorted so he would have been discovered. Then other stories well even if he had not been sorted the garbage was burned but at too low of temp to burn bone so his bones would have been found while sifting through the ash for metal. AND NOW all these months later, we are told he might have been carried to a landfill undetected, unburned, unsorted some miles away on the road to cambridge. And the police suspected it such a possibility they told the landfill not to use the area he most likely was dumped in months ago. SMH. I was born at night but not last night. The police owe nothing to us, but they do owe the people of Suffolk honesty. All those man hours, and pounds spent searching, when all they should have done was dig that landfill up.
 
  • #733
No, no, no, no. All these months there have story after story about how the Lorry and the phone made its way to BM. And there have been MSM stories about where this lorrie when and how impossible it was for Corrie to be in the lory. There were stories the only bin emptied had 33 lbs in it. Then stories - well even if Corrie had been emptied into the Truck this garbage is sorted so he would have been discovered. Then other stories well even if he had not been sorted the garbage was burned but at too low of temp to burn bone so his bones would have been found while sifting through the ash for metal. AND NOW all these months later, we are told he might have been carried to a landfill undetected, unburned, unsorted some miles away on the road to cambridge. And the police suspected it such a possibility they told the landfill not to use the area he most likely was dumped in. SMH. I was born at night but not last night. The police owe nothing to use, but they do owe the people of Suffolk honesty. All those man hours, and pounds spent searching, when all they should have done was dig that landfill up.

MSM is not reliable for in-depth stuff IMO, I haven't bought a paper in years as journalistic standards - especially in my area (military/defence) - is very very poor.

For this case I have read what the police statements have said, I haven't bothered too much about newspapers.

However if the police have botched this up by not searching the landfill on day one then there will be hell to pay.

I just don't understand why they are only going to search there now, even although there was a good chance that was where he has been all along since that night.

Or are they now working with info that suggests he was put there long after his disappearance?

Intriguing and frustrating case.
 
  • #734
MSM is not reliable for in-depth stuff IMO, I haven't bought a paper in years as journalistic standards - especially in my area (military/defence) - is very very poor.

For this case I have read what the police statements have said, I haven't bothered too much about newspapers.

However if the police have botched this up by not searching the landfill on day one then there will be hell to pay.

I just don't understand why they are only going to search there now, even although there was a good chance that was where he has been all along since that night.

Or are they now working with info that suggests he was put there long after his disappearance?

Intriguing and frustrating case.
The police are aware of MSM reports including the BBC. So why have they not corrected the record when they see calls for 100's of volunteers to search fields, roadways, forests, etc...and they forget to mention...there is actually a landfill we think is very likely..but you guys have fun on your hike.
 
  • #735
The police are aware of MSM reports including the BBC. So why have they not corrected the record when they see calls for 100's of volunteers to search fields, roadways, forests, etc...and they forget to mention...there is actually a landfill we think is very likely..but you guys have fun on your hike.

Well they must have good reason, I hope!
 
  • #736
My last say on the subject anything is possible and having looked at my local bin lorries I think even I could have cadged a lift unknown to the driver and get out when he slowed down or came to a stop however this clip is slightly different.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35686743
 
  • #737
I have to say I don't think the Police are thinking Corrie was murdered and then dumped at the landfill. I think whether murdered or not, he got to the landfill via a bin taken there.

The simple reason I think this is because of the specific and relatively small area they have targeted to search. The whole site is 48 Hectares so a 920 sq m area is tiny and must mean it is waste specifically from BSE in the days around the 24th. What are the chances a body dump at a landfill 30 miles away would be chosen by a perp and then happen to pick a tiny spot within 48 Hectares that is other waste from BSE?

The question I have is just how would he be missed by at least two people at two points given the clothes he was wearing? When tipped into the bin lorry and when emptied at landfill? The only thing I can come up with (pretty grim) is whoever put him in the bin returned to wrap him in bin liners or otherwise conceal him sometime in the 2+ days before he was reported missing.
 
  • #738
He could have been over the limit within 20 minutes. It seems likely he hadn't eaten for some hours before going out (we know he bought a large quantity of food in the early hours) and according to earlier reports he was drinking vodka.

http://science.howstuffworks.com/alcohol3.htm

Oh I concur 100%. I wasn't commenting on what was probably, merely what was possible and definitely not illegal as some had stated.
 
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