UK UK - Corrie McKeague, 23, Bury St Edmunds, 24 September 2016 #20

[Last Dance]

I have just read a Scottish Sun article from Sunday evening that says N is still hoping C is alive. I don't think it is on here so can somebody link it on here for people to read?

For me, it still remains a possibility. I understand the police are still looking to ID the last 2 witnesses so, presumably, they are continuing to follow other lines of investigation. I can't get my head round him opting to sleep in a bin...why would he when he had a warm car nearby, had slept for a while in a doorway, was smartly dressed and took pride in his appearance,...Oh, and not forgetting, he had reportedly told people he was planning to walk home.

 

[eilyfletch]

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3080212/cops-hunting-missing-raf-corrie-mckeague-resume-search/
they have searched 250 tones of rubbish in one week, has it been said how many tones overall they have to search, I'm just trying to work out how long it will take, I know that they have said 6, 8, or 10 weeks ,

900 tonne i think

 

[Shiressleuth]

For me, it still remains a possibility. I understand the police are still looking to ID the last 2 witnesses so, presumably, they are continuing to follow other lines of investigation.

Well yes I guess that is so. The article also confirms that two Biffa employees were spoken to, one under caution and one under arrest. Wasn't sure if that had been confirmed before. You have to click on the "Corrie" link in the article for that.
Thanks Northern for posting the link.

 

[MissPickle]

To drop his phone in the bin he would have had to open the lid first. Why would he do that unless he was going to get in it?

I still think that maybe Corrie's phone was picked up with his takeaway rubbish and put in a bin by accident??

 

[Cherwell]

I still think that maybe Corrie's phone was picked up with his takeaway rubbish and put in a bin by accident??

In that last video he isn't carrying any rubbish, so either he left it in the doorway or dropped it in a small bin before the point where we see him.

 

[pinklilies]

where 8,000 tonnes of rubbish is being trawled in the hunt for the RAF gunner, 23.

https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/ne...-found-alive-as-cops-trawl-dump-for-his-body/




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[Allthetwos]

Hi there, first post on this thread.

I believe Corrie simply fell asleep in the recycling bin due to being drunk and freezing cold.. possibly hypothermia kicking in after being outside with only a shirt on for so long. He wanted shelter quickly. It was a recycling bin, not a filthy smelly bin, just cardboard to lay on and pull over himself. He's been crushed and tragically not discovered yet.

I read about a man Chris Ogden, from Huddersfield, who died in very similar circumstances to Corrie. He was very drunk, got thrown out a club and had also fallen asleep prior to getting in the bin. He was crushed and found on the recycling conveyor belt.

It happens. The major mess up in this case has been the bin weight being reported incorrectly, throwing off the search when it's been the most obvious thing that's happened.

 

[pinklilies]

Hi there, first post on this thread.

I believe Corrie simply fell asleep in the recycling bin due to being drunk and freezing cold.. possibly hypothermia kicking in after being outside with only a shirt on for so long. He wanted shelter quickly. It was a recycling bin, not a filthy smelly bin, just cardboard to lay on and pull over himself. He's been crushed and tragically not discovered yet.

I read about a man Chris Ogden, from Huddersfield, who died in very similar circumstances to Corrie. He was very drunk, got thrown out a club and had also fallen asleep prior to getting in the bin. He was crushed and found on the recycling conveyor belt.

It happens. The major mess up in this case has been the bin weight being reported incorrectly, throwing off the search when it's been the most obvious thing that's happened.

Hi, yes it does seem to happen. There's another man, Garrett Elsey crushed in a bin in Bristol, first night in the UK from Canada. Same circumstances, been drinking, asked to leave the club, separated from his friend but he was in a general waste bin. And he was also thankfully found before anything went to landfill.


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[Shiressleuth]

Hi there, first post on this thread.

I believe Corrie simply fell asleep in the recycling bin due to being drunk and freezing cold.. possibly hypothermia kicking in after being outside with only a shirt on for so long. He wanted shelter quickly. It was a recycling bin, not a filthy smelly bin, just cardboard to lay on and pull over himself. He's been crushed and tragically not discovered yet.

I read about a man Chris Ogden, from Huddersfield, who died in very similar circumstances to Corrie. He was very drunk, got thrown out a club and had also fallen asleep prior to getting in the bin. He was crushed and found on the recycling conveyor belt.

It happens. The major mess up in this case has been the bin weight being reported incorrectly, throwing off the search when it's been the most obvious thing that's happened.

Welcome All, there has to be something done about the problem tbh, and I agree the bin weight was misleading causing delay.

 

[Allthetwos]

Welcome All, there has to be something done about the problem tbh, and I agree the bin weight was misleading causing delay.

I agree there has to be a procedure put in place to prevent further deaths, not just a quick peek inside as they have most likely covered themselves for warmth. Banging on the side may not be enough to wake someone. I seen someone posted a link with a lorry that had a camera and luckily spotted a man on the camera before he was crushed. Still seemed like a close call.

 

[Squamous]

Seems that the general state of bodies from bin sleepers is generally intact and unbroken in terms of skin etc which gives me a bit more hope and context for Corrie's search.

 

[Allthetwos]

Hi, yes it does seem to happen. There's another man, Garrett Elsey crushed in a bin in Bristol, first night in the UK from Canada. Same circumstances, been drinking, asked to leave the club, separated from his friend but he was in a general waste bin. And he was also thankfully found before anything went to landfill.


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It's so sad.

A man filmed himself waking up in a bin after a night out. I don't know how to post the video but this is the description that made the news --->

<modsnip>

 

[Justlookingme]

Hi there, first post on this thread.

I believe Corrie simply fell asleep in the recycling bin due to being drunk and freezing cold.. possibly hypothermia kicking in after being outside with only a shirt on for so long. He wanted shelter quickly. It was a recycling bin, not a filthy smelly bin, just cardboard to lay on and pull over himself. He's been crushed and tragically not discovered yet.

I read about a man Chris Ogden, from Huddersfield, who died in very similar circumstances to Corrie. He was very drunk, got thrown out a club and had also fallen asleep prior to getting in the bin. He was crushed and found on the recycling conveyor belt.

It happens. The major mess up in this case has been the bin weight being reported incorrectly, throwing off the search when it's been the most obvious thing that's happened.

This is the gent I have used as an example previously (I didn't name or locate so you wouldn't put 2 and 2 together) perfect example of how this could have happened.

My gut tells me not though, In the first few weeks I was convinced Corrie was in the bin but now I'm not so sure.


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[januarymay]

I don't know if this was posted previously but this bbc video highlights the problems of people sleeping in bins and the possible consequences.

[video=youtube;VsYzOSc-Ies]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsYzOSc-Ies[/video]

I do think the most obvious explanation is that he fell asleep in the bin and sadly got transported to landfill.

However the two strangest points that are unanswered are: how did his phone ping inside the metal lorry and how was he not noticed during or after the waste collection process?

 

[FlashyHydra]

I do think the most obvious explanation is that he fell asleep in the bin and sadly got transported to landfill.

However the two strangest points that are unanswered are: how did his phone ping inside the metal lorry and how was he not noticed during or after the waste collection process?

That guy survived, so why did Corrie die? He wasn't that drunk anymore and he was a fit young man. Surely he must have woken up and start shouting and banging. Or was the driver listening music and not looking at the cameras? And why was the bin lorry 30 mins in HS? <modsnip>

 

[Shiressleuth]

http://www.buryfreepress.co.uk/news/opinion/social-media-at-its-best-and-worst-1-7861340

Interesting MSM article about this case.

 

[Amonet]

http://www.buryfreepress.co.uk/news/opinion/social-media-at-its-best-and-worst-1-7861340

Interesting MSM article about this case.

I know a lot have complained about the rules here. But my personal opinion is that they, and the excellent modding by Greater Than and others in the team, have prevented these threads from degrading to the point that's being talked about in that article, and kept things on topic and focused on what happened to Corrie rather than excess dissecting of various characters whether they have been directly or indirectly involved (like the family, bin man, the people in the clubs, the people on cctv, etc.)

Overall, though, regarding the article, I think it's just that prior to social media we didn't see this side of human nature on such public display. It can be very difficult to deal with, whether you're inside it, watching it, or dipping your toes in and having a negative experience. Really, though, it is similar to the concept in the Miss Marple books, where everything was focused on human nature inside a village and using that knowledge of human nature to extrapolate/interpolate.

The main thing I take from it is that so many people do want to do something to help, even if they can only do that from a distance. This case, and the social media aspect, has given a lot of people the opportunity to just say something nice, something supportive, to share an article and feel that they are making a contribution. And they've seen that being appreciated by the family. Most people are generally decent and want to help.

 

[Amonet]

Another article from Bury Free Press about the landfill search. One of the best-written articles on the subject that I've seen so far.

[FONT=&amp]They are sifting though 920 square metres of rubbish which was put in a hollow eight metres deep at the centre. A tracked digger eats into the mound, which is then spread out on a flat area of the site for the team to search through under odour controllers which pump out a scented mist[..]

The tip is organised so each day&#8217;s rubbish is put in one place, then covered in soil, so the operators FCC Environment know which bit of the site was in operation when refuse came in from the horseshoe area of Brentgovel Street, Bury St Edmunds, where Corrie was last seen on September 24.[/FONT]

http://www.buryfreepress.co.uk/news...ill-site-search-for-corrie-mckeague-1-7856810

 

[suzyjackson]

http://www.buryfreepress.co.uk/news/opinion/social-media-at-its-best-and-worst-1-7861340

Interesting MSM article about this case.

A very interesting article, thanks for posting.

I think a whole book could be written about he SM aspects of this case, it's been quite the phenomenom.

Those of us who've read elsewhere will know, I think, which site is being referred to, IMO a lot of posters there were sailing cloer to the wind

JMO

 

[DanceCard]

Seems that the general state of bodies from bin sleepers is generally intact and unbroken in terms of skin etc which gives me a bit more hope and context for Corrie's search.

Have those bodies been found shortly after death though, or after lying in a landfill for nearly 6 months ?