UK UK - Corrie McKeague, 23, Bury St Edmunds, 24 September 2016 #20

[Shiressleuth]

Another article from Bury Free Press about the landfill search. One of the best-written articles on the subject that I've seen so far.



http://www.buryfreepress.co.uk/news...ill-site-search-for-corrie-mckeague-1-7856810

If they have the tip organised so well, why can't the searchers go straight to the 24th Sep rubbish? Or have I misunderstood. And why also will it take 10 weeks if they can pinpoint the days rubbish so accurately?

 

[Aye]

I'm not convinced that Mr Sutton has done his homework on the facts of the case.
The photo is a library photograph of a Biffa waste bin. (Quite funny how the headline above it is "Red Herring".)
There's also a photo of "Corrie's shirt", which clearly it is not.

Is that directed at me ?

 

[Deleted member 189081]

I am not quite sure why this case (Corrie) is being sited as a Social Media phenomenon. I would have thought the Madeline Mc'cann case earned that reward. What I would say is that the handling of the the Social Media types and cyber dwellers such as you and I are on the whole not seen as a threat but on the whole people who just want to help find a missing person. The difference is one family wants to engage. Instead of avoid typically dismiss anything negative is classed as trolling.

This is not the first SM phenomenon it is the 2nd in the UK and being handled totally differently to the first.

Regards
R

 

[Mindie304]

Where I live recycling includes glass and tin foil now, only introduced last year. But where I work, we have separate bins

Another article from Bury Free Press about the landfill search. One of the best-written articles on the subject that I've seen so far.



http://www.buryfreepress.co.uk/news...ill-site-search-for-corrie-mckeague-1-7856810

 

[Scorpio1]

I am not quite sure why this case (Corrie) is being sited as a Social Media phenomenon. I would have thought the Madeline Mc'cann case earned that reward. What I would say is that the handling of the the Social Media types and cyber dwellers such as you and I are on the whole not seen as a threat but on the whole people who just want to help find a missing person. The difference is one family wants to engage. Instead of avoid typically dismiss anything negative is classed as trolling.

This is not the first SM phenomenon it is the 2nd in the UK and being handled totally differently to the first.

Regards
R

I would say that with this case that in a couple of years we will be looking back at it as a social media disaster, with all the controdicting information going around that has not helped the case, in my mind we probely wount se another case like this with so much social media involvement in the UK for many years, many lessons to be learnt on how the whole thing is handled and managed, imo,

 

[suzyjackson]

I am not quite sure why this case (Corrie) is being sited as a Social Media phenomenon. I would have thought the Madeline Mc'cann case earned that reward. What I would say is that the handling of the the Social Media types and cyber dwellers such as you and I are on the whole not seen as a threat but on the whole people who just want to help find a missing person. The difference is one family wants to engage. Instead of avoid typically dismiss anything negative is classed as trolling.

This is not the first SM phenomenon it is the 2nd in the UK and being handled totally differently to the first.

Regards
R

For me MM became an SM topic some time after she disappeared, ten years ago SM was very much in it's infancy, we had to follow the case on Sky News. This has played out in real time with a huge and very sympathetic following. The number of SM posters who support the McCanns is much fewer than those who think they were involved in her disapperance.

IMOO they are both interesting but very different phenomena

JMO

 

[Squamous]

Have those bodies been found shortly after death though, or after lying in a landfill for nearly 6 months ?

Straight after death, but one of my question marks was about how much damage the crushing mechanism would do. If the rubbish is buried fairly swiftly as was mentioned in the link above then I think there's a good chance Corrie's body will be at least in a fairly small area if not still vaguely intact, although obviously it has been a long time. I have no idea what the atmosphere within landfill is like though, if it's anerobic there might be better preservation than otherwise.

 

[Cherwell]

I'm not convinced that Mr Sutton has done his homework on the facts of the case.
The photo is a library photograph of a Biffa waste bin. (Quite funny how the headline above it is "Red Herring".)
There's also a photo of "Corrie's shirt", which clearly it is not.

Is that directed at me ?

I am at a loss as to why you would think that. My post was only one of many commenting on the content of the Sun article.

 

[Cherwell]

Seems that the general state of bodies from bin sleepers is generally intact and unbroken in terms of skin etc which gives me a bit more hope and context for Corrie's search.

But there's no way of knowing how many more have died like this and never been found.

 

[xmsmadex]

Im late to seeing this and I did my best to search for a post about the cctv footage that was released. In the first footage where he rounds the corner and drops something on the ground. Tge two people watch him the entire time then check out the area he dropped something. Then in the second footage you see him slightly jogging in lower left corner of footage and continuously looks behind him as he rounds another corner. It really looks like he was being followed. Im sure this has veen talked about but as Im late to this I couldnt help but say something.

 

[Amonet]

Im late to seeing this and I did my best to search for a post about the cctv footage that was released. In the first footage where he rounds the corner and drops something on the ground. Tge two people watch him the entire time then check out the area he dropped something. Then in the second footage you see him slightly jogging in lower left corner of footage and continuously looks behind him as he rounds another corner. It really looks like he was being followed. Im sure this has veen talked about but as Im late to this I couldnt help but say something.

We've been told the guys in the first footage were members of a band playing at the pub they were standing in front of (The Grapes). I think we were also told that one of them went up to Corrie at some point while he was in the doorway to check if he was okay.

In the second footage Corrie does start off by looking behind him, then he starts to turn the corner and checks out the other direction as well. We've hypothesized that he was probably looking around to make sure the coast was clear to have a pee or something similar.

 

[Aye]

I am at a loss as to why you would think that. My post was only one of many commenting on the content of the Sun article.

I recently joined and used the term 'red herring' several times to do with the Microsoft Account login on N old Nokia Lumia 435. You pointed that out so it could relate to me.
I can assure you I am not a jurno, I was brought up by a liberal strict Victorian catholic woman, dishonesty is something I despise...I could never do that job, its glorifies for $ales$.

 

[Cherwell]

I recently joined and used the term 'red herring' several times to do with the Microsoft Account login on N old Nokia Lumia 435. You pointed that out so it could relate to me.

"Red herring" is a common phrase which can be used in many different contexts. I hadn't noticed your use of it. I didn't even read your post as I don't have any interest in the technicalities of mobile phone use.

I can assure you I am not a jurno, I was brought up by a liberal strict Victorian catholic woman, dishonesty is something I despise...I could never do that job, its glorifies for $ales$.

Nowhere have I suggested that you are a journalist. I don't understand your post at all.

 

[Aye]

Im late to seeing this and I did my best to search for a post about the cctv footage that was released. In the first footage where he rounds the corner and drops something on the ground. Tge two people watch him the entire time then check out the area he dropped something. Then in the second footage you see him slightly jogging in lower left corner of footage and continuously looks behind him as he rounds another corner. It really looks like he was being followed. Im sure this has veen talked about but as Im late to this I couldnt help but say something.

Watching the second video on my iPhone numerous times. When you as a male look around before urinating several times you don't approach the chosen spot with hands in pockets, when the coast is clear after checking you have at least your belt and/or top button open as a minimum, esp when drink (diuretic) makes you need to go - with little warning.

How close was the dump bin/s to where C went off camera ?

 

[Aye]

"Red herring" is a common phrase which can be used in many different contexts. I hadn't noticed your use of it. I didn't even read your post as I don't have any interest in the technicalities of mobile phone use.



Nowhere have I suggested that you are a journalist. I don't understand your post at all.

Well that's fine then, it was not aimed at me

 

[xmsmadex]

Watching the second video on my iPhone numerous times. When you as a male look around before urinating several times you don't approach the chosen spot with hands in pockets, when the coast is clear after checking you have at least your belt and/or top button open as a minimum, esp when drink (diuretic) makes you need to go - with little warning.

How close was the dump bin/s to where C went off camera ?

Exactly, it looks very suspicious to me. He looks nervous and he has little reason to jog or look around too much as the streets are practically empty.

 

[Netsloth]

Only took 4 mins to empty more than one bin in the christopher Ogden case.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.ex...ristopher-ogden-crushed-death-bin-6477102.amp

 

[FlashyHydra]

After all that has been said and done, it's so frustrating to think Corrie being killed by accident, because he wanted to take a nap in a bin!?! Why would he do such a thing? It was a warm night, he just ate and had a good sleep and he had planned to walk home. What was in HS, that changed his mind to go into a bin? This part is so strange to me...?!

 

[Ironside]

After all that has been said and done, it's so frustrating to think Corrie being killed by accident, because he wanted to take a nap in a bin!?! Why would he do such a thing? It was a warm night, he just ate and had a good sleep and he had planned to walk home. What was in HS, that changed his mind to go into a bin? This part is so strange to me...?!

I wouldn't say passing out on concrete outdoors for a few hours is a good sleep. I would guess he was hypothermic when he woke up and the bin seemed like a cosy place to continue his nap in.

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[suzyjackson]

I wouldn't say passing out on concrete outdoors for a few hours is a good sleep. I would guess he was hypothermic when he woke up and the bin seemed like a cosy place to continue his nap in.

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haven't commented on this before, right from the start most posts I've read have been along the lines of C not needing to sleep because he'd already had a sleep and would haev sobered up a bit, now I'm no longer a big drinker but in my younger days when I was a 90 minute nap would no way have been enough for me to be raring to go again. It would just make me want to sleep more, I've thought that I must be the one who was unusual but now I think maybe not and it's simply a case of C needing to get some more sleep.

That said I'm still having difficulty with the idea that he would voluntarily get into a bin which involves a bit of physical exertion when you could just sit down again.

It seems that most people found in bins are rough sleepers which is more understandable as they will have a routine they've built up over their time on the streets.

And I have read all the links about drunks in bins, IMO it's a pretty rare event

JMO