GUILTY Uk - Emile Cilliers Accused Of Tampering W/ Wife's Parachute, Wiltshire, 5 April 2015

  • #421
Well, looks like they didnt wait until 16 30 hrs
Bet the Jury are thrilled to have had to sit around all day in a court building, only to be told to go home after 5 hours waiting


Winchester 2 T20160267

emile stolz cilliers

Details: Trial (Part Heard) - Resume - 09:42
Trial (Part Heard) - Case adjourned until 16:30 - 09:59
Trial (Part Heard) - Case adjourned until 10:00 - 15:39
 
  • #422
I noticed he tweeted something about cricket yesterday. I couldn't work out the time of it though, because it appeared to be at about 2pm but it didn't show up on twitter until about 10pm. I don't know if tweets are set to UK time because I don't have a twitter account.

Anyway, I don't know if he's just acting cool or if he really isn't worried. No sense no feeling?

Just had a look on his page and it says the tweet was sent 18 hours ago, which would match the 10pm timing last night ( more or less ).

I suspect he is one of those people who compartmentalises everything and doesn't let a little thing like an attempted murder charge get in the way of the other parts of his life.

Well, either that, or he knows something we don't and is confident of an acquittal.
 
  • #423
  • #424
Today ........

Winchester 2 T20160267
emile stolz cilliers
Details: Trial (Part Heard) - Resume - 10:19
 
  • #425
Nothing much, but at least it seems to be a full day's hearing today


Winchester 2

T20160267

emile stolz cilliers


Details: Trial (Part Heard) - Resume - 10:19
Trial (Part Heard) - Case adjourned until 11:50 - 11:38
Trial (Part Heard) - Resume - 11:55
Trial (Part Heard) - No Event - 12:16
Trial (Part Heard) - Case adjourned until 14:05 - 12:59
Trial (Part Heard) - Resume - 14:03
Trial (Part Heard) - Witness Number 2 Continues - 14:05
Trial (Part Heard) - Legal Submissions - 14:25
Trial (Part Heard) - No Event - 15:12


http://www.thelawpages.com/court-hearings-lists/Winchester-Crown-Court.php
 
  • #426
Today's update

Winchester 2
T20160267

emile stolz cilliers

Details: - No Information To Display -
Trial (Part Heard) - Witness Number 3 Continues - 10:04


we need a journo, or two, to tweet some details !
 
  • #427
At least we've heard it all before Alyce :D. I expect once VC testifies we'll get some reports. IF she testifies that should be.
 
  • #428
I've just been over the first trial records to get some timings

Week 1 (3 days) - Mr Bayada 2 days
Week 2 - Mr Bayada 2 days, site visit 1 day, 9 other witnesses
Week 3 - 8 witnesses, toilet video watched, judge instructed jury that slinks were deliberately removed, they were not missing or did not come off accidentally.
Week 4 - text messages, gas fitting and VC on stand for 3 days giving evidence.
Week 5 - VC another 3 days (x-exam and re-exam), EC police interview 1 day. DEFENCE opens and EC gives evidence 1 day.
Week 6 - EC x-exam 2 days. Pros and Defence closing speeches 1 day each.
Week 7 - Judge's summing up 2 days. Jury deliberates 2 days (1 day juror unwell)
Week 8 - Jury deliberates all week, majority ruling 10-2 given on Tues, 2 jurors leave with stress on Thurs and majority ruling given 9-1, Jury discharged on Friday.
 
  • #429
We are in week 3 of the current trial just to put it into context.
 
  • #430
Today so far


Winchester 2

T20160267


emile stolz cilliers


Details: Trial (Part Heard) - Case adjourned until 10:25 - 10:12
Trial (Part Heard) - Resume - 10:26
Trial (Part Heard) - Witness Number 6 Sworn - 10:36
Trial (Part Heard) - No Event - 11:13
Trial (Part Heard) - Witness evidence concluded - 11:51
Trial (Part Heard) - Case adjourned until 12:10 - 11:56
Trial (Part Heard) - Resume - 12:06


Court 2 T20160267
EMILE STOLZ CILLIERS
Trial (Part Heard) - Witness Number 7 Sworn - 12:19
 
  • #431
Winchester 2 T20160267
emile stolz cilliers
Details: Trial (Part Heard) - Case adjourned until 10:00 - 09:49
Trial (Part Heard) - Case adjourned until 10:05 - 10:00
Trial (Part Heard) - Resume - 10:12
Trial (Part Heard) - Witness Number 10 Continues - 10:17
 
  • #432
So are the Prosecution adding more detail / asking more questions this time round ?

It is week 3 and - looking at Tortoise chart - by week 3 in the previous trial about 18 witnesses had testified. This time we are only up to number 10.
 
  • #433
Must be all this summer heat ( not ! ) that is addling my brain.

Have just realised that this is ECs trial ! I kept thinking it was another case JS was hearing



Court 2 - sitting at 10:00 am

THE HONOURABLE MR JUSTICE SWEENEY
Trial (Part Heard)


T20160267 ******** ***** *
***********


Order made under S45 Youth Justice & Criminal Evidence Act 1999
 
  • #434
Must be all this summer heat ( not ! ) that is addling my brain.

Have just realised that this is ECs trial ! I kept thinking it was another case JS was hearing



Court 2 - sitting at 10:00 am

THE HONOURABLE MR JUSTICE SWEENEY
Trial (Part Heard)


T20160267 ******** ***** *
***********


Order made under S45 Youth Justice & Criminal Evidence Act 1999
I'm confused. Is this a child testifying for EC's case?
 
  • #435
The Youth Justice and Criminal Evidence Act 1999 (YJCEA) aims to help vulnerable and intimidated witnesses give the best evidence they can in criminal proceedings. This is to be achieved by allowing certain witnesses access to a range of special measures where it is felt that their evidence will thereby be improved.
Reducing the stress associated with a court case will, it is hoped, mean that vulnerable witnesses are more confident and give better testimony. In addition, individuals who in the past would have been unable to participate in proceedings and were therefore considered incompetent to give evidence will now have a voice.
The reasoning behind the YJCEA is clear. In cases of abuse in particular, the prosecution case is often based almost entirely on the evidence of one witness, often a child. It is important that what evidence there is in such situations is presented as well as possible.
In the past, witnesses and complainants in criminal proceedings have not always been given the help they deserved when giving evidence. Over the years, many measures have been introduced to render the court process less intimidating, deriving mainly from the experiences of the judiciary in both criminal and family proceedings. These include familiarization visits, live-links and the like. The YJCEA will now bring many of these measures under one statutory roof.

It is hoped, first, that this will encourage greater consistency in their application and, secondly, that criminal proceedings will be demystified for those that have to go through them.
Many believe it is a step that is long overdue.
Thus, vulnerable and intimidated witnesses, who might previously have been considered unable to give evidence in criminal proceedings, or at a disadvantage in giving evidence, will have a proper opportunity to do so. Such witnesses include the mentally and physically disabled, those in fear of intimidation such as the complainant of racial or domestic violence, and of course children.
The YJCEA is a complex Act that may well have a considerable impact on the way in which criminal proceedings in the UK are handled.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11506346
 
  • #436
Well, I'm addled too - I thought this was another case when we were looking in the first week, but haven't looked since. Why is it listed like that then, do you know?
It would help if someone was there - could we put out an appeal?!

EDIT - Sorry, I see you've just posted, Alyce - will look at that.
 
  • #437
I'm confused. Is this a child testifying for EC's case?

Just been reading up on it - see my next post. Apparently it is not limited to children, but can include vulnerable adults or adults who feel intimidated to give evidence. I wonder if it is VC who has raised a concern about having to give evidence again ?
 
  • #438
Well, I'm addled too - I thought this was another case when we were looking in the first week, but haven't looked since. Why is it listed like that then, do you know?
It would help if someone was there - could we put out an appeal?!

EDIT - Sorry, I see you've just posted, Alyce - will look at that.

Glad it wasn't just me. It was the case reference number that gave me the clue - I rarely take notice of them but today something made me think the youth case number sounded familiar, then realised it was ECs number also.
 
  • #439
How very interesting. Is that why there's no coverage, as opposed to just the media being bored second time round?
 
  • #440
Who is witness no.10 then?
 

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