GUILTY Uk - Emile Cilliers Accused Of Tampering W/ Wife's Parachute, Wiltshire, 5 April 2015

[Tortoise]

From yesterday (Thursday)


In a video played to the jury, Paul Applegate, chairman of the British Parachute Association rigging committee, removed two links from a reserve chute and tangled the lines of the main canopy, taking just over five minutes to do so.

[...]

The court also heard evidence from Jason Bales, a colleague of Mr Cilliers, who had agreed to act as guarantor for a loan.

Mr Bales told the court that Mr Cilliers had defaulted on the loan and went abroad ski-ing, leaving him liable to pay.

He said he challenged the defendant after several months of exchanging "increasingly heated" text messages but Mr Cilliers "had a completely blank face and said he didn't want to talk about it".

[..]


He also said he saw Mr Cilliers at work shortly after Mrs Cilliers' near-fatal fall.

"He was busy printing off his wife's life insurance forms," Mr Bales told the court.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-wiltshire-44071440

 

[Tortoise]

Trial (Part Heard) - Witness Number 29 Sworn - 09:36
Trial (Part Heard) - No Event - 09:47
Trial (Part Heard) - Witness evidence concluded - 10:02
Trial (Part Heard) - Witness Number 30 Sworn - 10:05
Trial (Part Heard) - Witness Number 30 Continues - 10:38
Trial (Part Heard) - Case adjourned until 11:25 - 11:13
Trial (Part Heard) - Witness Number 30 Continues - 11:29
Trial (Part Heard) - No Event - 11:51

http://www.thelawpages.com/court-hearings-lists/Winchester-Crown-Court.php

 

[Alyce]

Snipped from Tortoise post above

"He was busy printing off his wife's life insurance forms," Mr Bales told the court.


says it all really

 

[Tortoise]

It does Alyce. I seem to remember he used some insurance money to pay for a holiday for himself. Something like that.

 

[Alyce]

This article was from Wednesday

The wife of an Army sergeant accused of trying to kill her by tampering with her parachute "was in good spirits" moments before jumping, a court heard.

Winchester Crown Court heard she "fist-bumped" a fellow skydiver just before her jump at Netheravon airfield.

Mrs Cilliers, an experienced skydiver, previously told the jury she was in tears and felt "hideous" moments before the jump.

But Robert Camps, assistant secretary of the Army Parachute Association at Netheravon, who has known Mrs Cilliers "since the early nineties", said "if anything, she seemed excited before the jump".

[...]

A fellow skydiver, Michael Lyons, told the court he was the last person to jump before Mrs Cilliers.

He said that Mrs Cilliers was "quiet" but "seemed fine" and did not seem reluctant to "fist bump".


Anne Bayada, a receptionist at Netheravon, told the court she spoke with Mrs Cilliers on the morning of the jump and they chatted about the recent birth of Mrs Cilliers's baby.

"She was in good spirits", Mrs Bayada said.

Rebecca Dickens, another skydiver, said Mrs Cilliers "seemed extremely happy" on the day of the jump, and "was looking forward to jumping".

[...]


Michael Bowes QC, for the prosecution, asked about Mr Cilliers's reaction when the news was broken to him.

Mr Camps said: "He didn't really say anything. And then I quite forcefully said: 'Emile, you need to get to the hospital. Is there anyone who can look after the kids?'

"And he said: 'No, not really'."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-44060561

Am struggling a bit to see where they are going with this line..... and are they Prosecution or Defence witnesses now ?

If VC was hugely unhappy - as in worried - then surely she would not have done the jump.

But the fact that she was sociable towards other sky divers doesn't necessarily mean that she was fabulously happy. She could have had a few misgivings but didnt want to appear unfriendly to the other divers.

 

[Tortoise]

Am struggling a bit to see where they are going with this line..... and are they Prosecution or Defence witnesses now ?

If VC was hugely unhappy - as in worried - then surely she would not have done the jump.

But the fact that she was sociable towards other sky divers doesn't necessarily mean that she was fabulously happy. She could have had a few misgivings but didnt want to appear unfriendly to the other divers.

I think it's still prosecution witnesses.

I think there is a possibility that VC is not only reluctant to bear the responsibility for EC being convicted on her evidence, but she is not in favour of a prosecution. Where she says she exaggerated before because she was angry, it's possible she is exaggerating now about her state of mind on the day of the jump. It's only a hunch but that is what I have picked up, especially in the first trial vis-a-vis the damage to the gas valve. The prosecutor must surely have thought long and hard about what the last jury was conflicted over.

 

[Tortoise]

They seem to have more witnesses this time

Trial (Part Heard) - Witness Number 32 Sworn - 12:13

 

[Alyce]

Definately seems like more witnesses. Wonder if Defence will also have extras ? last time it was just EC I think.

 

[Alyce]

Trial (Part Heard) - Case adjourned until 14:10 - 13:08
Trial (Part Heard) - Resume - 14:06
Trial (Part Heard) - Witness Number 32 Continues - 14:18
Trial (Part Heard) - Case adjourned until 14:40 - 14:29

 

[Alyce]

Going for a full day today


Trial (Part Heard) - Witness Number 32 Continues - 14:44

 

[Alyce]

Trial (Part Heard) - Witness Number 32 Continues - 14:44
Trial (Part Heard) - No Event - 15:21
Trial (Part Heard) - Legal Submissions - 16:03
Trial (Part Heard) - Case adjourned until 09:30 - 16:05

 

[Alyce]

No 15 - recall ?



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Details: Trial (Part Heard) - Witness Number 15 Continues - 09:36

 

[Alyce]

Must have been a recall with 15


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Details: Trial (Part Heard) - Witness Number 15 Continues - 09:36
Trial (Part Heard) - Case adjourned until 11:45 - 11:31
Trial (Part Heard) - Resume - 11:45
Trial (Part Heard) - No Event - 12:01
Trial (Part Heard) - Witness Number 36 Sworn - 12:32
Trial (Part Heard) - Witness evidence concluded - 12:56
Trial (Part Heard) - Case adjourned until 14:00 - 13:01

 

[Alyce]

From yesterday (Thursday)


In a video played to the jury, Paul Applegate, chairman of the British Parachute Association rigging committee, removed two links from a reserve chute and tangled the lines of the main canopy, taking just over five minutes to do so.

[...]

The court also heard evidence from Jason Bales, a colleague of Mr Cilliers, who had agreed to act as guarantor for a loan.

Mr Bales told the court that Mr Cilliers had defaulted on the loan and went abroad ski-ing, leaving him liable to pay.

He said he challenged the defendant after several months of exchanging "increasingly heated" text messages but Mr Cilliers "had a completely blank face and said he didn't want to talk about it".

[..]


He also said he saw Mr Cilliers at work shortly after Mrs Cilliers' near-fatal fall.

"He was busy printing off his wife's life insurance forms," Mr Bales told the court.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-wiltshire-44071440

From this link - I must have missed this part when reading it last week

Mr Bales also told the court that "it was common knowledge" that Mr Cilliers was separated from his wife and he "was surprised" to hear the couple had gone skydiving together.

 

[Alyce]

Looks like beginning of Defence evidence

Trial (Part Heard) - Case adjourned until 14:00 - 13:01
Trial (Part Heard) - Witness Number 37 Sworn - 14:13
Trial (Part Heard) - Case adjourned until 14:40 - 14:36

Trial (Part Heard) - Witness Number 1 Sworn - 14:43
Trial (Part Heard) - Case adjourned until 14:40 - 14:36

 

[Alyce]

Trial (Part Heard) - Witness Number 1 Sworn - 14:43
Trial (Part Heard) - No Event - 15:04
Trial (Part Heard) - Witness Number 15 Continues - 15:27

 

[Tortoise]

From this link - I must have missed this part when reading it last week

Mr Bales also told the court that "it was common knowledge" that Mr Cilliers was separated from his wife and he "was surprised" to hear the couple had gone skydiving together.

I think that's what EC was telling people but not the truth of it from these quotes

prosecution opening statement first trial -

The court heard that he had lied to Goller in saying he had left his wife four months before.

VC's evidence -

"He's taken tens of thousands of pounds off me. He told his girlfriend we were separated and that [our son] wasn't his and that I had an affair.

Mrs Cilliers revealed she had set a time limit of their wedding anniversary in September 2015 for him to 'shape up or ship out' but he tried to kill her in the March and again six days later, it is alleged.

 

[Alyce]

Back to Witness 15 again this morning

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Details: Trial (Part Heard) - Witness Number 15 Continues - 09:33
Trial (Part Heard) - No Event - 10:28

 

[Moll]

Thanks everyone for keeping the flow of info going - even though we can't get at a lot of what's going on. I've been away and offline for several days and was half-hoping for some major development when I got back, but of course it's going to be a matter of bringing all the threads together. I think those extracts Tortoise has posted above are very telling: EC did not tell people the truth, we must remember that.

 

[Alyce]

Another update, I am totally confused now - are we on to the Defence evidence or are they simply recalling various witnesses from the Prosecution side ?


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emile stolz cilliers

Details: Trial (Part Heard) - Witness Number 15 Continues - 09:33
Trial (Part Heard) - No Event - 10:28
Trial (Part Heard) - Witness Number 16 Continues - 10:41
Trial (Part Heard) - Legal Submissions - 11:17