UK - Gary & Joshua Dunmore, 57 & 32, Found Shot, Cambridgeshire, 29 March 2023 *arrests*

[Countem]

Father and son murdered 'in two Cambridgeshire villages' died from gun

Stephen Alderton (pictured) is facing trial after being been charged with the murders of father Gary Dunmore, 57, and his son Joshua Dunmore, 32.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Both victims were killed by gunshot.

 

[Countem]

More than £5,000 raised in memory of Josh and Gary Dunmore

A JustGiving page has been launched to raise funds for charity in memory of Gary Dunmore and his son Josh, who shot dead at their homes last month.

www.huntspost.co.uk

The victims will have a joint funeral on Tuesday (May 2).

 

[Puzzleworth]

A month or so late, but still: It's worth noting that arrests in the UK are a different action from those in the US justice system. The bar of suspicion required is much, much lower, for one. A comparison would be "brought in for questioning" in the UK system and "detained to start the trial process" in America. (Of course, that doesn't mean the opposite isn't true--that the US system arrests people sometimes, only to release them without charge after gathering evidence, or that Crown courts don't have suspects arrested before trial) Neither means certain guilt though. Only conviction does.

"The truth will out," as they say. I hope the child sees justice for their dad and grandad.

 

[Countem]

Inquests open into deaths of father and son after they were shot dead

The inquiries into the death of Gary Dunmore, 57, and his son Josh Dunmore, 32, opened today at Peterborough Town Hall, Cambridgeshire.

www.dailymail.co.uk

The inquiries into the deaths of Gary Dunmore, 57, and his son Josh Dunmore, 32, opened May 4 at Peterborough Town Hall, Cambridgeshire.

 

[JerseyGirl]

Judge Mark Bishop set a provisional trial date of 16 October, allowing time for a two-week hearing.

Man faces trial after father and son shot dead in villages six miles apart

Stephen Alderton charged with two counts of murder and one count of possession of a firearm

www.independent.co.uk

 

[Luwin]

Stephen Alderton admits gunshot murders of father and son

Gary Dunmore, 57 and son Josh, 32, were found dead in two Cambridgeshire villages in March.

www.bbc.co.uk

Stephen Alderton, 67, of no fixed abode, pleaded guilty to two counts of murder at Cambridge Crown Court on Wednesday.
Judge Mark Bishop said he would be sentenced in October.
Alderton denied one count of possession of a firearm - a double-barrelled shotgun - with intent to cause fear of violence to another person.
Prosecutor Peter Gair said there was "no public interest to be served by seeking a trial" on the count and the judge ordered that it lie on file.

 

[Countem]

Josh and Gary Dunmore: Two more arrests after murders

Gary Dunmore, 57, and son Josh, 32, were found dead in two Cambridgeshire villages in March.

www.bbc.com

https://www.itv.com/news/anglia/2023-06-29/pair-re-arrested-over-father-and-son-shooting-murder

Cambridgeshire Police confirmed that they have re-arrested a 33-year-old woman and 28-year-old man from Mildenhall, Suffolk on suspicion of conspiracy to murder after the pair was previously arrested and released in March. They are released on bail until September 7.

On Wednesday, police also arrested a 51-year-old man and a 22-year-old woman, both from Bristol, on suspicion of encouraging or assisting crime. The pair has since been released under investigation.

 

[Rusty Braincells]

The defendant received life with a minimum of 25 years. That seems slightly light to me in the modern era for a premeditated double murder with a firearm, but the defendant did plead guilty early on.

Link: Man jailed for life for shooting father and son dead over boy's custody

A sad detail is that the child involved in the custody case that seemingly sparked these crimes has wound up being placed in care (at the end of this link):

Father and son were shot over family court case, court told

A judge said he wants to “reflect fully” on the evidence presented in court before sentencing the man who shot dead a Cambridgeshire father and…

www.huntspost.co.uk

 

[Countem]

The defendant received life with a minimum of 25 years. That seems slightly light to me in the modern era for a premeditated double murder with a firearm, but the defendant did plead guilty early on.

Link: Man jailed for life for shooting father and son dead over boy's custody

A sad detail is that the child involved in the custody case that seemingly sparked these crimes has wound up being placed in care (at the end of this link):

Father and son were shot over family court case, court told

A judge said he wants to “reflect fully” on the evidence presented in court before sentencing the man who shot dead a Cambridgeshire father and…

www.huntspost.co.uk

i hope that the mother is also charged with a crime, as she, no doubt, was aware of her father‘s intentions based on those messages referenced in the article.

 

[Marysmith]

i hope that the mother is also charged with a crime, as she, no doubt, was aware of her father‘s intentions based on those messages referenced in the article.

Absolutely!!

 

[Countem]

Bail extended for pair arrested on conspiracy to murder

Man and woman arrested as part of Cambridgeshire police’s wider investigation into the murders of Gary and Josh Dunmore have been re-bailed.

www.huntspost.co.uk

BBM

A 33-year-old woman and a 28-year-old man, both from Mildenhall, Suffolk, were arrested last year on suspicion of conspiracy to murder.

They were previously on bail until December 7, 2023 – but Cambridgeshire Police confirmed both have now been re-bailed until March 7 this year.

 

[Countem]

Cambridgeshire shootings: Longer sentence for man who shot two dead

The Court of Appeal extends the 67-year-old's life-term prison sentence.

www.bbc.com

On Tuesday the Court of Appeal extended [Stephen Alderton‘s] sentence to a minimum of 30 years, minus time already served in custody.

 

[Marysmith]

Bail extended for pair arrested on conspiracy to murder

Man and woman arrested as part of Cambridgeshire police’s wider investigation into the murders of Gary and Josh Dunmore have been re-bailed.

www.huntspost.co.uk

BBM

So glad to see the mother and others were also charged!

 

[Rusty Braincells]

Cambridgeshire shootings: Longer sentence for man who shot two dead

The Court of Appeal extends the 67-year-old's life-term prison sentence.

www.bbc.com

Thanks for posting this. I’m not surprised at all as 25 years seemed light for a double murder with a gun even with a guilty plea, if we look at the guidelines, as I posted above. I hope the judgment is reported to explain what the Court of Appeal looked at.

There are a couple of other recent cases with low minimum terms that I also wouldn’t be surprised if they were reviewed.

 

[Rusty Braincells]

Cambridgeshire shootings: Longer sentence for man who shot two dead

The Court of Appeal extends the 67-year-old's life-term prison sentence.

www.bbc.com

Thanks for posting this. I’m not surprised at all as 25 years seemed light for a double murder with a gun even with a guilty plea, if we look at the guidelines, as I posted above. I hope the judgment is reported to explain what the Court of Appeal looked at.

There are a couple of other recent cases with low minimum terms combined with guilty pleas that I also wouldn’t be surprised if they were reviewed. I think the issue is too much credit for a guilty plea but I’m interested to see.

 

[Countem]

Bail extended again for pair on conspiracy to murder charges

Cambridgeshire Police have re-bailed two people arrested last year as part of the wider investigation into the murders of Josh and Gary Dunmore.

www.huntspost.co.uk

A woman aged 33 at the time and a man, then 28, both from Mildenhall, Suffolk, were also arrested on suspicion of conspiracy to murder.

They were previously on bail until December 7 and were re-bailed until yesterday (March 7).

A Cambridgeshire Police spokesperson has confirmed they were re-bailed again until June 7, 2024.

 

[Countem]

Pair arrested for conspiracy to murder are released under investigation

Man and woman arrested as part of police’s wider investigation into the murders Cambridgeshire father and son - Josh and Gary Dunmore - remain…

www.huntspost.co.uk

Cambridgeshire Police have now confirmed they have been released under investigation.

This means police are continuing to investigate the alleged criminal offence.

Unlike being placed on bail, there are no conditions the suspects must follow and no time limits set by police for the investigation.

 

[Marantz4250b]

I've just watched the 24 Hours in Police Custody documentary on this.

The whole thing is just mind-numbingly horrific and mindless beyond belief. I mean, what the hell was going through this guy's mind? He claims he did it because it's the right thing for an honourable family gent to do (paraphrasing) yet he's murdered his grandkids dad and grandad. How the af does anyone rationalise that and conclude that it's a reasonable thing to do?

Watching his utterly remoreseles behavior was actually a bit scary, tbh.

Someone upthread mentioned the daughter. She was arrested for conspiracy but not charged. I can understand why she wasn't charged because there simply wasn't any evidence to show that she committed the offence. Even if she knew that he would likely do it, knowing is not an offence and she didn't seem to do anything to help him do it.

 

[Sall2021]

I also watched the 24 Hours in Police Custody and found his obvious lack of emotion astonishing.

Feel incredibly sorry for the boy who has not only lost his father, but paternal Grandfather too (and maternal GF to prison life).

 

[SuspiciousM]

I've just watched the 24 Hours in Police Custody documentary on this.

The whole thing is just mind-numbingly horrific and mindless beyond belief. I mean, what the hell was going through this guy's mind? He claims he did it because it's the right thing for an honourable family gent to do (paraphrasing) yet he's murdered his grandkids dad and grandad. How the af does anyone rationalise that and conclude that it's a reasonable thing to do?

Watching his utterly remoreseles behavior was actually a bit scary, tbh.

Someone upthread mentioned the daughter. She was arrested for conspiracy but not charged. I can understand why she wasn't charged because there simply wasn't any evidence to show that she committed the offence. Even if she knew that he would likely do it, knowing is not an offence and she didn't seem to do anything to help him do it.

Knowing and doing nothing to dissuade her father from murder is morally reprehensible in my view. They were her son’s father and grandfather! Did it not occur to her that he loved them and the heartbreak this would cause him?

The fact that she said nothing in response to her father’s repeated declarations about what he wanted to do could easily be taken as unspoken agreement with his plans. Implicit consent? Then there is the question of why she didn’t give her father’s name as a carer for the children when she was first arrested - if she knew nothing about the murders why wouldn’t he be the obvious choice?

I understand why the CPS felt there was not enough concrete evidence for a conviction, but I think she knew and she wanted Josh dead - she said as much in some of her messages.

Father and daughter came across as toxic.
One of the interviewees said that Stephen “babied” his daughter and I think he just gave her everything that she wanted (or he decided she wanted). Such an arrogant individual.

I am so glad that Mandy the grandmother has sole custody of her grandson, it would have been obscene if he had been sent to the US given the circumstances.