Found Deceased UK - Graham Wright, missing 8/25/25, Glasgow *human remains' found in Loch Lomond*

  • #61
Or Graham & Lewis have no connection & it wast just a coincidence & because of that the police are searching maybe a little too hard to find 1. It might not be the same killer at all. But there is 1 thing though a bit strange. There is an acquaintance of the teacher or that ex of his, (not sure which), that acquaintance has a friend & that friend is family of a guy who is certainly capable of murder. But I have no idea if the cops even know that, should know that or if that's also just a coincidence. Cause it's not a very easy link to find unless you knew some background already.
Lewis went missing 15 days before Graham so his investigation obviously develops earlier than Grahams, what are the chances of these same flat being searched twice and relation to two separate missing people? There’s definitely a connection? And also after Grahams remains were found, this flat has been boarded up and secured as a scene of crime or something.
 
  • #62
Or Graham & Lewis have no connection & it wast just a coincidence & because of that the police are searching maybe a little too hard to find 1. It might not be the same killer at all. But there is 1 thing though a bit strange. There is an acquaintance of the teacher or that ex of his, (not sure which), that acquaintance has a friend & that friend is family of a guy who is certainly capable of murder. But I have no idea if the cops even know that, should know that or if that's also just a coincidence. Cause it's not a very easy link to find unless you knew some background already.

Connections with career criminals of some description?
 
  • #63
Connections with career criminals of some description?
I’m thinking the flat is some kind of gay chemsex brothel and the neighbour may be supplying the drugs, I think all 4 characters could be gay 2 are 100% confirmed as gay, an educated guess the other 2 might be or at least bi sexual and the missing neighbour possibly a chemsex dealer or cocaine, I’m thinking drug deaths and conspiracy and coverups gone wrong
 
  • #64
My, this is a complicated web! My hunch is this was a kink that went too far rather than violence for violence sake. Because of the slightly different dates of reported disappearances. I don’t think this was one violent incident. I think someone got a taste for something and went on a binge. As serial killers do. I think police are holding cards type to the chest because the full story is quite disturbing. We certainly don’t have murders like this here. JMO
 
  • #65
Connections with career criminals of some description?
To a guy who implies he has something to do with it. He is like a nephew of a friend of 1 of those involved & some of these families went to the same school back in the day so. That guy isn't a career criminal, He might just be very dangerous & very troubled. That still doesn't explain any of their involvement with Lewis or Graham. it still could be that it's really just coincidence. Yes, the chances seem to be low but it's Glasgow. A city can have 2 murders 15 days apart, even in the same area. it's just all very weird. I don't think it would then have to do with being gay, rather then maybe settling very old scores & Lewis & Graham just got caught right in the middle.
 
  • #66
To a guy who implies he has something to do with it. He is like a nephew of a friend of 1 of those involved & some of these families went to the same school back in the day so. That guy isn't a career criminal, He might just be very dangerous & very troubled. That still doesn't explain any of their involvement with Lewis or Graham. it still could be that it's really just coincidence. Yes, the chances seem to be low but it's Glasgow. A city can have 2 murders 15 days apart, even in the same area. it's just all very weird. I don't think it would then have to do with being gay, rather then maybe settling very old scores & Lewis & Graham just got caught right in the middle.
They have searched the same house firstly for Lewis and weeks later for Graham and have boarded it up and secured as a scene of crime. The man who lived in this house is 36 year old James mcginty who has a restraining order against his ex partner in stonehouse a male teacher James Dunn whose house has also been boarded up and secured as scene of crime. So that’s 2 of them confirmed gay, also pride south Lanarkshire were very active in promoting the missing status of Lewis (while this doesn’t mean that he is gay 100%) if I was a betting man I know what way I would be betting.

These people must move in the same circles, the police do not turn up at these locations on a whim, it’s based on intelligence.

Also if you read the gossip from the digger, it points to domestics and on something (drugs), and wild sex game theory’s, while exaggerated there is usually no smoke without fire.

It’s either a sexuality thing a drugs thing or both, I think it’s both.
 
  • #67
They have searched the same house firstly for Lewis and weeks later for Graham and have boarded it up and secured as a scene of crime. The man who lived in this house is 36 year old James mcginty who has a restraining order against his ex partner in stonehouse a male teacher James Dunn whose house has also been boarded up and secured as scene of crime. So that’s 2 of them confirmed gay, also pride south Lanarkshire were very active in promoting the missing status of Lewis (while this doesn’t mean that he is gay 100%) if I was a betting man I know what way I would be betting.

These people must move in the same circles, the police do not turn up at these locations on a whim, it’s based on intelligence.

Also if you read the gossip from the digger, it points to domestics and on something (drugs), and wild sex game theory’s, while exaggerated there is usually no smoke without fire.

It’s either a sexuality thing a drugs thing or both, I think it’s both.
I also think the missing neighbour may be some kind of dealer, like cocaine or ghb and he has went to extremes to hide his dealing and if his drugs may be responsible for an accidental death or deaths this would explain the unexplained status of the death and why he is on the run and possibly why the van has been burnt out, and the castlemilk location a safe house for the drugs that he would have to destroy.
 
  • #68
I don't necessarily subscribe to any of the above theories around drug use, however it's interesting to note that NHS Greater Glasgow and Clyde issued a warning to users of crack cocaine on 16th September due to concerns that there was a batch circulating in the city that was cut with synthetic opioids.

This followed 3 separate incidents around Glasgow city centre (one on 8th September and two on 13th September) which led to five crack users becoming seriously ill and one dying.
 
  • #69
that wouldn’t be the drugs used in this scenario, it’s usually cocaine and ghb it’s a big thing in the gay scene.

Where are you at with it?
 
  • #70
It's the neighbor who burned his hire van & ditched his phone & vanished. He apparently took a bag & that's it. That was from 1 of the Castlemilk properties. What if Lewis was killed by somebody unknown(or the neighbor) but the cops did more than they usually do. They really started to go all out to find him. Maybe the Rutherglen guy James knew buskers & that's why they asked him. The police asked around everywhere cause they would want to know even anybody who would have ever seen Lewis busking. But that investigation could have spooked that neighbor. Maybe that guy was doing something nobody knew & now the cops could be inadvertently coming close. Graham as neighbor could be unknowingly been a threat by just living near him so graham had to go. Of course that alerted the cops even more. So of course they would have come back to that bunch of gay men cause it was the only "lead" they had. They had no clue about the neighbor. All of a sudden he was gone right under their noses. They are trying to find the crime scene where the dismemberment would have taken place. All they can do is trying to go from house to house but that's more cause that's all they can do then that there is actually anything to find there. Maybe nobody really knew that neighbor all that well. So they are left holding the bag while that guy is just gone.
Lewis is still not found & if it hadn't been for "bad luck" at Loch Lomond, there wouldn't have been a trace. They really need to find the neighbor.
 
  • #71
It's the neighbor who burned his hire van & ditched his phone & vanished. He apparently took a bag & that's it. That was from 1 of the Castlemilk properties. What if Lewis was killed by somebody unknown(or the neighbor) but the cops did more than they usually do. They really started to go all out to find him. Maybe the Rutherglen guy James knew buskers & that's why they asked him. The police asked around everywhere cause they would want to know even anybody who would have ever seen Lewis busking. But that investigation could have spooked that neighbor. Maybe that guy was doing something nobody knew & now the cops could be inadvertently coming close. Graham as neighbor could be unknowingly been a threat by just living near him so graham had to go. Of course that alerted the cops even more. So of course they would have come back to that bunch of gay men cause it was the only "lead" they had. They had no clue about the neighbor. All of a sudden he was gone right under their noses. They are trying to find the crime scene where the dismemberment would have taken place. All they can do is trying to go from house to house but that's more cause that's all they can do then that there is actually anything to find there. Maybe nobody really knew that neighbor all that well. So they are left holding the bag while that guy is just gone.
Lewis is still not found & if it hadn't been for "bad luck" at Loch Lomond, there wouldn't have been a trace. They really need to find the neighbor.
So what links Graham to the house in rutherglen in that scenario?
 
  • #72
So what links Graham to the house in rutherglen in that scenario?
Bearing in mind both the property in rutherglen and stonehouse were both secured as scenes of crime after his discovery
 
  • #73
Nothing would but if the cops thought the cases were linked (even if they are not, or not the way they think), they will go with the last & only lead, Lewis & If Lewis was known even just casually by James, the guy who lives in that Rutherglen flat. then they will automatic assume he must know more about Graham & now after 2 people, they of course going to seal it off & look. They will look everywhere at this point. They were so focused on these men that the neighbor could just vanish. The neighbor of course could be some kind of handy man or cleaner or have access to properties & that's how they got connected with all of that. The cops are just looking for any hint of a crime scene, they would be securing Buckingham Palace at this point. The hire van could be the crime scene. Some killers do that. He was pretty neat in vanishing. Even got a bag ready. Guy like that.... probably not his first rodeo. I don't think a guy like that works with anybody. But somehow he did leave that bunch hanging. Maybe they were an "easy" bunch. 2 people fighting a love tiff, Graham maybe clueless & only focused on his sports (that man was some fan), Who would have missed a busker. Males missing don't usually get that attention. At this point they really should put out an alert for that neighbor. They can easily do it asking for a witness. They do that all the time even without it being murder. This kind of guy follows every news item they make about it. I'm sure police do their best but a bit of help of the public could be welcome.
 
  • #74
Nothing would but if the cops thought the cases were linked (even if they are not, or not the way they think), they will go with the last & only lead, Lewis & If Lewis was known even just casually by James, the guy who lives in that Rutherglen flat. then they will automatic assume he must know more about Graham & now after 2 people, they of course going to seal it off & look. They will look everywhere at this point. They were so focused on these men that the neighbor could just vanish. The neighbor of course could be some kind of handy man or cleaner or have access to properties & that's how they got connected with all of that. The cops are just looking for any hint of a crime scene, they would be securing Buckingham Palace at this point. The hire van could be the crime scene. Some killers do that. He was pretty neat in vanishing. Even got a bag ready. Guy like that.... probably not his first rodeo. I don't think a guy like that works with anybody. But somehow he did leave that bunch hanging. Maybe they were an "easy" bunch. 2 people fighting a love tiff, Graham maybe clueless & only focused on his sports (that man was some fan), Who would have missed a busker. Males missing don't usually get that attention. At this point they really should put out an alert for that neighbor. They can easily do it asking for a witness. They do that all the time even without it being murder. This kind of guy follows every news item they make about it. I'm sure police do their best but a bit of help of the public could be welcome.
They have been at the house in rutherglen for Lewis who disappeared before Graham?

So there is no connection to Graham or the missing neighbour at this point?

They then return to the flat regarding Grahams missing status after his body is found

The flat in rutherglen is secured as a scene of crime?

Grahams neighbour in the Gorbals is now missing

The timeline is what is important here.
 
  • #75
When they found the parts of Graham they also got some information that it might be linked to Lewis. I know that for a fact. But it was MIGHT(it wasn't that bunch). That's probably why they went back to that flat. But cops don't always get what's right in front of them & instead of focusing on the neighbor, they focused on that bunch. From there it became this. Now Graham is not even all found & Lewis is completely gone & the likely killer of Graham or at least some criminal, the neighbor is just gone with the wind. That's not the police their fault but they really need to find the neighbor.
 
  • #76
When they found the parts of Graham they also got some information that it might be linked to Lewis. I know that for a fact. But it was MIGHT(it wasn't that bunch). That's probably why they went back to that flat. But cops don't always get what's right in front of them & instead of focusing on the neighbor, they focused on that bunch. From there it became this. Now Graham is not even all found & Lewis is completely gone & the likely killer of Graham or at least some criminal, the neighbor is just gone with the wind. That's not the police their fault but they really need to find the neighbor.
Just can’t workout why the flat in rutherglen is some kind of hub, all roads lead to that being the centre of this story. They must have reason 1 to go there for Lewis and 2 for Graham
 
  • #77

At this point it's Castlemilk, that new property, block near Ardencraig Road. I suppose they are searching for other bones too. They might have flushed out a serial (neighbour) that nobody knew was there. That's maybe 1 of his dumping sites although, if you go to Loch Lomond, you might go elsewhere too than Castlemilk woods. I doubt that bunch is capable of this kind of murder. This is methodical, secretive, he blended in his environment & could vanish in an instant. That's not the gay hotheads that got dragged into it.
 
  • #78

At this point it's Castlemilk, that new property, block near Ardencraig Road. I suppose they are searching for other bones too. They might have flushed out a serial (neighbour) that nobody knew was there. That's maybe 1 of his dumping sites although, if you go to Loch Lomond, you might go elsewhere too than Castlemilk woods. I doubt that bunch is capable of this kind of murder. This is methodical, secretive, he blended in his environment & could vanish in an instant. That's not the gay hotheads that got dragged into it.
I think the castlemilk site looks like where the neighbour has disposed of evidence, possibly all in the van fire, but given that the forsenics are still there just now in the woods with machinery they are certainly interested in something
 
  • #79
The Castlemilk site seems significant - based on the photos on the yahoo article, the area that the search is focussing on looks like it is actually a fairly small wooded area behind the Jenniburn centre, bounded by Ardencraig Road, Tormusk Road and Hoddam Road. Large amounts of the woodland are overlooked by 3 storey blocks of flats typical to Castlemilk.

It is close to the property being searched on Ardencraig Quadrant, however it seems an odd place to try and conceal evidence, given that a huge expanse of wild, heavily wooded and considerably more secluded land at the Cathkin Braes is equally close.

Suggests that whoever the police think has concealed evidence there could be assumed to be familiar with or have a link to that specific bit of woodland, or has been forced to use that area by circumstance (as against the numerous other areas of woodland in the immediate area).
 
  • #80
The Castlemilk site seems significant - based on the photos on the yahoo article, the area that the search is focussing on looks like it is actually a fairly small wooded area behind the Jenniburn centre, bounded by Ardencraig Road, Tormusk Road and Hoddam Road. Large amounts of the woodland are overlooked by 3 storey blocks of flats typical to Castlemilk.

It is close to the property being searched on Ardencraig Quadrant, however it seems an odd place to try and conceal evidence, given that a huge expanse of wild, heavily wooded and considerably more secluded land at the Cathkin Braes is equally close.

Suggests that whoever the police think has concealed evidence there could be assumed to be familiar with or have a link to that specific bit of woodland, or has been forced to use that area by circumstance (as against the numerous other areas of woodland in the immediate area).
Looks like a panic dump, if a dealer or even just a body or bodies been in that van think there’s a link to drugs and possibly a stash house why he had to go to castlemilk get his drugs stash and whatever other incriminating evidence he had and try burn it in the van and possibly get access to another car? Another thing was the hire van was linked to him but rented out on a false name, so he’s thinking burn it out in castlemilk away from gorbals not in my name and get out of here
 

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