GUILTY UK - Helen Bailey, 51, Royston, 11 April 2016 #7

[Tortoise]

And now it's Tony Hurley's fault too ....


Why did you not speak to Tony Hurley about it?
S: That was my plan, that’s what I tried to do, I failed because he wasn’t in his office that day.

I'm left wondering if the barrister's suggestion that Helen was thinking about THurley in the middle of the night was his own interjection or if IS put him up to it.

 

[pollypi]

II can't remember if Trimmer ever asked IS about his comment to the Detective how he wasn't sure if he wanted Helen back if she came back?

 

[snoopydog]

I'm left wondering if the barrister's suggestion that Helen was thinking about THurley in the middle of the night was his own interjection or if IS put him up to it.

I must have missed that bit. When was she supposed to have been thinking of him?


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[pinklilies]

I notice Trimmer never describes Helen as his fiancée but lover.


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[cheeseman]

He wants to know the maximum time he can jail him for.

Or if he can don his black cap for once and send him to the gallows.

 

[Tortoise]

I shall look forward to Tortoise's view on the following. Very telling that he said "This wasn't my plan" before adding "As there was no plan". Important slip of the tongue methinks.


10:49
Helen lie 'created itself' - Stewart

T: You were creating a background story that would eventually settle down and you could take control of the money

S: This wasn’t my plan, as there was no plan. The lie [about Helen leaving] created itself.

http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/live-helen-bailey-murder-trial-12595743

My view? He knew as soon as he'd opened his trap he'd put his massive clod hopper straight in it.

 

[pinklilies]

http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/live-helen-bailey-murder-trial-12595743

[FONT=&quot]11:17[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot][h=3]Stewart admits Helen hadn't gone anywhere[/h]T: Helen hadn’t gone anywhere of her free will at all had she?
S: No
T: She hadn’t wished to be anywhere else, she wasn’t looking for space and time
S: No, but at the time my mind was totally screwed
T: No, at this time your mind was working perfectly well. This is you continuing the lie that she’d gone, that it was her choice to go, and that you were respecting her wishes.
Stewart doesn’t answer.
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I love it when he doesn't answer. This is when he's actually realising that Trimmer doesn't believe him


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[Alyce]

II can't remember if Trimmer ever asked IS about his comment to the Detective how he wasn't sure if he wanted Helen back if she came back?

Haven't heard him say that yet -

 

[Tortoise]

I must have missed that bit. When was she supposed to have been thinking of him?


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It was when Helen got up in the middle of the night and emailed TonyH to say she had a lot of things on her mind that needed sorting out. Russell Flint said wtte 'so she was thinking about you in the middle of the night!'

 

[Tortoise]

II can't remember if Trimmer ever asked IS about his comment to the Detective how he wasn't sure if he wanted Helen back if she came back?

Not yet.

 

[Interested Bystander]

My view? He knew as soon as he'd opened his trap he'd put his massive clod hopper straight in it.

I know you are interested in analysing witness statements and what he said seemed a huge mistake to me. You obviously agree.

 

[JudgeJudi]

He wants to know the maximum time he can jail him for.

He definitely wouldn't be discussing this with counsel. It's his decision alone, and as a Judge in the criminal jurisdiction, he would know the law on sentencing.

 

[neteditor]

http://www.bbc.com/news/live/uk-eng...sages&&ns_fee=0#post_58a196d7e4b08db782bbfb91

As we reported towards the end of last weekend, the writer's fiance Ian Stewart, who is accused of murder, alleged two men took her.
This morning, the prosecution at St Albans Crown Court has quizzed the 56-year-old about messages he sent to Ms Bailey's phone between 11 and 15 April.
He was asked why he did not use messages to plead with the "kidnappers" for her release.
Mr Stewart said money was not going through his head and he thought Ms Bailey would return by the end of the week.
Ms Bailey's body was found in a cesspit under the garage of the couple's home in Royston, Hertfordshire, on 15 July.
Mr Stewart, of Baldock Road, reported her missing on 15 April. He denies murder, preventing a lawful burial, fraud and three counts of perverting the course of justice.
The trial continues.

 

[neteditor]

He definitely wouldn't be discussing this with counsel. It's his decision alone, and as a Judge in the criminal jurisdiction, he would know the law on sentencing.

I think Tortoise was joking

 

[Cherwell]

I'm wracking my brain on the judge's legal matter... probably a point of law. It's quite significant if he adjourns the court and sends the jury out. It must be something that no-one except the legal teams can be privy to but I imagine IS will still be there to hear the discussion. I'm hoping he's going to say "look this idiot is banged to rights, how about telling him to change his plea to guillty and let us all go home."

He's guiltier than a fox with a mouth full of feathers.

 

[Tortoise]

I think Tortoise was joking

I faiIed. My humour is a bit on the dry side.

 

[neteditor]

I faiIed. My humour is a bit on the dry side.

I've been watching you in action for so long now

 

[Cherwell]

I faiIed. My humour is a bit on the dry side.

I got it.

 

[icemaiden65]

I faiIed. My humour is a bit on the dry side.

We spotted the joke Tort - I had a wry smile here.

 

[JudgeJudi]

I think Tortoise was joking

I'm certain she was joking, but others new to trials may not have appreciated that.