UK UK - Jack O'Sullivan, 22, left friends after night out, last seen Brunel Lock Road/Brunel Way, Bristol at 3.15am, 2 Mar 2024

[ChatteringBirds]

Stay safe if you do, johnlair. It would be interesting to hear your thoughts.

 

[Blamhappy]

From what I have read on the Find Jack Facebook group, no more calls were made from Jacks phone after the one he made to a girl at the party who didn't answer her phone, but then 10 minutes later she returned his call and someone - and she can't be sure if it was Jack, apparently just said "hello" and then nothing else, but the phone line was open for a further 58 seconds and then it dropped. Nothing after that.

So what is odd about this is that this girl claims that she heard no noise in the background of Jack saying "hello" yet at that point in time Jack was half way down Bennett Way, and had walked DOWN Bennett way undetected by the CCTV cams which last picked him up, walking back UP Bennett Way after that call, this was at 3.39 am. So wouldn't that girl have found that odd? If you were that girl would you not have tried to call Jack back after the line dropped off after 58 seconds of silence following someone saying "Hello"? Would that not ring some alarm bells for her? It would for me, would it for you?

Had Jack got to his brothers and been let in out of the cold then yes, his brother would know if Jack had more calls but he seemingly didn't get to his brothers where his phone last pinged at 6.44 am.

Jacks mum has the notion that Jack was not in possession of his phone when he disappeared on the basis that she had tried in vain to ring him several times from around 5 to 5.20 am and got no reply. Then the phone pings on Granby Hill close to where Jacks brother Ben lives at 6.44 am and goes off the network after that. Something is seriously amiss here.

Jacks Mum allegedly woke at around 5 am with some sort of 6th sense that something was wrong and she goes into Jacks bedroom, the light still switched on - she left his bedroom light on for him and their outside porch light, that was also still on and so she and his dad get a shower and within 20 mins are down in Bristol searching for Jack. The police would not allow Jacks parents to file a missing person's report until 12 hours had passed from him going missing - a stupid law that needs changing, because those 12 hours would have been crucial to finding him.

Then they file a missing person report having gone home to await the arrival of the police to their house to do this apparently.

The police then started searching the River Avon fixated on the notion that Jack must have ended up in the Avon. But no sign of him so they told Jacks parents that the current on the Avon would likely have carried Jack out to sea.

How awful is that? It is gut wrenching.

12 hour law? Where did you hear this? Someone can be reported missing at any point. There is no minimum. How seriously the police take it and how quickly they start investigating depends on all the circumstances.

 

[StillDiggin]

Not saying it’s Jack but it’s a male human remains in Bristol, worth keeping an eye if the person is identified

'Human remains' found in Bristol field

Police and fire crews were called to the quiet residential area on Tuesday morning.

www.bbc.com

 

[dotr]

Not saying it’s Jack but it’s a male human remains in Bristol, worth keeping an eye if the person is identified

'Human remains' found in Bristol field

Police and fire crews were called to the quiet residential area on Tuesday morning.

www.bbc.com

Thank you, started thread..

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UK Thread 'UK- Bristol, Lyde Green, next to a green space & a lake, UID human remains, 5 November 2024'

Nov 6, 2024

44 minutes ago Sarah Turnnidge

'Human remains' found in Bristol field

Police and fire crews were called to the quiet residential area on Tuesday morning.

www.bbc.com

'Suspected human remains have been found in a field on the outskirts of Bristol, police have confirmed.

Avon and Somerset Police was called to Lyde Green just before midday on Tuesday, with fire crews also in attendance.

Forensic vehicles have been seen at Apple Grove, a cul-de-sac next to a green space and a lake.'

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[VerityGumshoe]

Thank you, started thread..

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UK Thread 'UK- Bristol, Lyde Green, next to a green space & a lake, UID human remains, 5 November 2024'

Nov 6, 2024

44 minutes ago Sarah Turnnidge

'Human remains' found in Bristol field

Police and fire crews were called to the quiet residential area on Tuesday morning.

www.bbc.com

'Suspected human remains have been found in a field on the outskirts of Bristol, police have confirmed.

Avon and Somerset Police was called to Lyde Green just before midday on Tuesday, with fire crews also in attendance.

Forensic vehicles have been seen at Apple Grove, a cul-de-sac next to a green space and a lake.'

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Is this near to where Jack went missing?

 

[Lucy6226]

Is this near to where Jack went missing?

Around 10 miles away according to a Google search

 

[VerityGumshoe]

Around 10 miles away according to a Google search

Thanks

 

[Bahshudc]

It’s very far — if it turns out to be Jack, he would’ve most likely been driven there somehow. Thoughts with the family. Even if it’s not him, this must be exhausting.

 

[Bahshudc]

Has it been confirmed the remains are male? If not it could well be Denise Jarvis.

There is a small walkway from the motorway to the field they were found.

 

[Bahshudc]

“Multiple emergency service vehicles, including a police forensics van and an underwater search unit, have been at the site since yesterday (November 5).”

https://www.bristolworld.com/news/crime/human-remains-found-in-field-in-bristol-4855941

So they’ll search the lake, too. Thoughts and prayers whatever happens :/

 

[starlightstarbright]

I’m sorry I haven’t followed Jack’s case very closely. If I remember correctly, he was possibly trying to reach somewhere in Clifton? But was there anywhere else it was suspected he might have headed? Family member’s house, partner, friends that might explain why he might have tried to travel beyond the city centre area?

 

[Bahshudc]

I’m sorry I haven’t followed Jack’s case very closely. If I remember correctly, he was possibly trying to reach somewhere in Clifton? But was there anywhere else it was suspected he might have headed? Family member’s house, partner, friends that might explain why he might have tried to travel beyond the city centre area?

Would be interesting to see if he had family in Lyde Green area.

 

[touch]

Lyde Green is roughly twice the distance from where he was last seen compared with his home in Flax Bourton.
If he did decide to visit someone near Lyde Green it would have had to be a specific journey to get there - not just a case of finding somewhere to stay in Bristol because he couldn't get home.

 

[Bahshudc]

The Sun (i know) is saying the remains were “decomposed and skeletal”

Mystery swirls as 'human remains' found by dogwalker as cops scour stream

DIVERS are scouring a stream after “human remains” were found by a dogwalker in a field close to a primary school. Mystery surrounds the discovery of an unidentified body in a quiet cul…

www.thesun.co.uk

 

[PurpleLasagne]

Has it been confirmed the remains are male? If not it could well be Denise Jarvis.

There is a small walkway from the motorway to the field they were found. View attachment 543527View attachment 543528

That was my first thought. I haven't seen it confirmed the remains are male. Denise went missing from fairly near that location

 

[Dotta]

Police divers search muddy stream where mystery body was found

Residents of the housing complex just 50 yards away from the stream said the discovery was 'scary' and 'frightening for young children' who play near it.

www-dailymail-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org

 

[acehard]

The Sun (i know) is saying the remains were “decomposed and skeletal”

Mystery swirls as 'human remains' found by dogwalker as cops scour stream

DIVERS are scouring a stream after “human remains” were found by a dogwalker in a field close to a primary school. Mystery surrounds the discovery of an unidentified body in a quiet cul…

www.thesun.co.uk

I guess it's less likely then. It's also kinda far. MOO

 

[canadaone4lt]

I live in Bristol and have been following this case closely, hoping they find answers for Jack's family.

To me, the odd features in this case are:

1. Why Jack was wandering around the bypass road network in a direction which makes no sense; and

2. His phone activity.

It has never made sense to me that Jack would leave the party to try to get a taxi. Hailing a taxi on the road is very rare in Bristol - everyone orders Ubers. I would think it would be almost impossible to hail a taxi from the roadside on Hotwells Road, and absolutely impossible on the bypass roads across the river where he was wandering. The bypass road is a 40mph road with no stopping areas.

Ordering an Uber is far easier and more successful from a fixed location, eg the party. It doesn't make sense to leave the location of the party (in the warm) to try to get an Uber to pick you up from the roadside.

The only evidence we have that he was going to get a taxi home is his text/WhatsApp to his mum at 1.52am. But then he doesn't actually leave until c3am. Why? Probably because he wanted to reassure his mum, and he was having a good time. We know in the intervening period he falls down some stairs, bangs his head and shoves someone he doesn't know who mocks him. To me, these are the actions of a young man who is drunk and/or high - no criticism of him here, he's a student and it is to be expected at parties. I don't necessarily trust the word of other party goers who were also drunk/high that he was lucid.

So then when he leaves the party, what are his intentions? To get a taxi home, or to go to his brother's house a short walk away in Clifton? If he was going to get a taxi, surely he'd have ordered an Uber on his phone, but if he was going to his brother's, wouldn't he have messaged him to check he was in as he presumably didn't have a key?

This takes me onto my theory (which is MOO) that he may have lost his phone at the party between 1.52am and 3am, and left the party without his phone. The phone remains at the party or is taken by somebody who had been at the party with him. When his friend messages him, someone sees his phone light up. When she calls, they then answer and say "Hello". The reason there is no road noise is because the phone isn't with Jack on the bypass, it's inside someone's house. Maybe someone then has an attack of conscience and suggests calling Jack's In Case of Emergency number (his mum) to reunite him. With no response, they watch a video on his phone until the battery runs out. The next morning / afternoon with a hangover / come down, they hear that Jack is missing and realise it doesn't look great that they have his phone, and destroy it.

I know this is speculation, but bearing in mind the facts we do know, it seems to me to be more logical that a drunk/high student left his phone at a party than the other options.

The question is then, of course, what happened to poor Jack.

I do not believe that he was trying to hail a cab. If he was, he'd have headed East along Hotwells road towards the Harbour side / Corn St, where he may have had a chance. He would not have headed straight for the bypass. His route does start off looking like he intended to walk back to Flax Bourton, which is a c2 hour walk, at 3am, in icy/snowy conditions. Perhaps he got as far as Brunel Lock road, realised that was not going to work, and headed back on himself over Brunel Way towards his brother's house?

If so, the last CCTV we have of him is walking in broadly the right direction (albeit a round about way, perhaps due to the lack of Google maps) straight towards the lock over the water. There are no barriers around this lock, and in my experience the path can be slippy as it doesn't get much footfall in bad weather. It unfortunately seems most likely to me that he fell in the water. This seems more likely to me than him coming to harm at the hands of someone else, in an area with heavy traffic and as a young fit man.

 

[Bahshudc]

I wonder, is there any CCTV of Jack using his phone? From memory I don’t think it’s visible. MOO

 

[Normal Norm]

This takes me onto my theory (which is MOO) that he may have lost his phone at the party between 1.52am and 3am, and left the party without his phone. The phone remains at the party or is taken by somebody who had been at the party with him. When his friend messages him, someone sees his phone light up. When she calls, they then answer and say "Hello". The reason there is no road noise is because the phone isn't with Jack on the bypass, it's inside someone's house.

Snipped by me for focus.

I think this is an interesting and plausible idea. I believe that Jack's family are having the phone data analysed, and hopefully this will show the phone's movements on the night Jack disappeared.