Found Deceased UK - Leah Croucher - Emerson Valley - Milton Keynes - #6

[Hannah3105]

“Sex offender may have held Leah Croucher captive in house for WEEKS before killing her and himself - after bungling police missed EIGHTEEN opportunities to arrest him”

PICTURED: Leah Croucher suspect is DEAD

 

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“Sex offender may have held Leah Croucher captive in house for WEEKS before killing her and himself - after bungling police missed EIGHTEEN opportunities to arrest him”

PICTURED: Leah Croucher suspect is DEAD

It's a really horrible thought. Hopefully the forensics will be able to give some answers to the family.

 

[Plod]

Im certain there’s dna evidence on her rucksack -they’d have his fingerprints etc .

 

[Rusty Braincells]

“Sex offender may have held Leah Croucher captive in house for WEEKS before killing her and himself - after bungling police missed EIGHTEEN opportunities to arrest him”

PICTURED: Leah Croucher suspect is DEAD

God that’s a horrifying possibility. I really hope he didn’t keep her there for weeks but it seems like he might have had the opportunity to do so. Awful.

 

[SpursGyal]

Exactly, I've been trying to find out whether the police were closing in on him around the time of his suicide. Or maybe people he knew had shopped him or threatened to.

I don't think so, they stated in the press conference that up until Monday, they was no link between him and Leah. I'd like to think, that they would've delved into him and his movements re Leah sooner if that was the case, and maybe she could have been found sooner.

 

[Skigh]

I think he probably did feel like the net was closing in, Leahs photo was everywhere, even right outside the house, if he returned to the house, he would have been greeted by police calling cards, then his photo being cirulated.

IMO, it has to be him, the police obviously have more information that what they are releasing too. Its not the outcome anyone wanted, and its sickening for Leahs family that all this time she was so close, they probably passed that house at some point over the years, and justice will never be done. I hope they find some peace in being able to lay her to rest.

I agree that it has to be him. There are so very many very sad if onlys.
if only Mr X spoke honestly and openly to the Crouchers about his relationship with Leah; if the TVP treated her disappearance as an abduction/ murder from the beginning..

 

[miss-scarlett23]

I wasn't aware of the information that Leah's phone turned off near the Premier Inn. So maybe nothing happened at the house, she was snatched at another location, and taken elsewhere and brought back under cover of darkness. She may have been unconscious when taken into the house, wrapped in something. She may have been hidden in the boot and found to be dead at the house.

Working on the theory that Leah was being watched over a period of time, I think it's plausible the person responsible may have been waiting in a vehicle at the car park at the lake.
A section of that car park is very secluded from the main part of it. It's 0.4 of a mile from there to the house on Loxbeare, not even a 2 minute drive down a very quiet residential street.

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My post from earlier in this thread. Note the car park is just down the road from the Premier Inn.

 

[Observe_dont_Absorb]

It’s really frightening. NM could have planned this for weeks or months and gradually established a rapport with Leah. Equally, he could have feigned an emergency and asked for help and then snatched her, or skipped the subterfuge and just waited for a quiet day to overpower her off the street. NM’s history needs looking at in detail along with other addresses he had access to.

Also he could have used a weapon, force, or some type of chemical to stun and overpower her. Did he pull her into his car maybe. I am curious as to how she got in the attic as it required a ladder to be brought by the estate agent, it obviously doesn't have a staircase or fitted ladder. It would be very tricky to get a dead person into an attic but an alive one could maybe be forced. It's a strange place to leave her remains and if NM did do this, it could account for his suicide as he would know the game's up. I'm surprised he didn't move her to hide in a different location.

 

[daisydew124]

i just find it hard to believe that no one saw anything. 8:30 or whatever time in the morning, school run/going to work time, I know it was only 500 metres away from where she was last seen but I dunno, somebody must have seen them together going to the address. They MUST have done?

 

[Observe_dont_Absorb]

I think he probably did feel like the net was closing in, Leahs photo was everywhere, even right outside the house, if he returned to the house, he would have been greeted by police calling cards, then his photo being cirulated.

IMO, it has to be him, the police obviously have more information that what they are releasing too. Its not the outcome anyone wanted, and its sickening for Leahs family that all this time she was so close, they probably passed that house at some point over the years, and justice will never be done. I hope they find some peace in being able to lay her to rest.

Even more sickening that he could have had her there alive for a while.

 

[SpursGyal]

While of course it is a possibility that the police will have to try to determine, which may prove very difficult now. I'd like to think she wasn't. Typical of some MSM to run this tho.

“Sex offender may have held Leah Croucher captive in house for WEEKS before killing her and himself - after bungling police missed EIGHTEEN opportunities to arrest him”

PICTURED: Leah Croucher suspect is DEAD

 

[Miss_French]

It's really hard to qualify what "near the premier inn" really means. With gps/location turned off then they'd have to be relying on pinging off mobile towers and that kind of location tracking leaves a huge area, which likely includes the house.

That's what I questioned, but according to posters apparently phone techies were involved and thats what happened:

"CCTV lost contact with Leah somewhere along the mile-long stretch between Buzzacott Lane in Furzton and Furzton Lake, and her phone was switched off or disconnected at exactly 8.34am at the northern end of Furzton Lake, close to the Premier Inn Hotel."

Family of missing Milton Keynes woman Leah Croucher look back on second year of torment as no further clues emerge

February 2021 will mark the second anniversary of the day 19-year-old Leah Croucher went inexplicably missing during her walk to work.

www.miltonkeynes.co.uk

 

[miss-scarlett23]

It's really hard to qualify what "near the premier inn" really means. With gps/location turned off then they'd have to be relying on pinging off mobile towers and that kind of location tracking leaves a huge area, which likely includes the house.

I believe to the best of my recollection there's a mobile phone last on the bowl roundabout, which is next to the Premier Inn.

 

[Plod]

I agree that it has to be him. There are so very many very sad if onlys.
if only Mr X spoke honestly and openly to the Crouchers about his relationship with Leah; if the TVP treated her disappearance as an abduction/ murder from the beginning..

He’s been ruled out. Maybe he’s told the police for years what the nature of the relationship was. The police have to go through all possibilities first - did she disappear through choice, then they’d look at family and friends as a large number of murdered people know their murderer . They were probably then looking at sex offenders country wide, and I can only think hd must be on their list. Don’t forget a lot of murders aren’t solved immediately but by change of loyalty or other reasons years later.

 

[Rusty Braincells]

i just find it hard to believe that no one saw anything. 8:30 or whatever time in the morning, school run/going to work time, I know it was only 500 metres away from where she was last seen but I dunno, somebody must have seen them together going to the address. They MUST have done?

There are just so many historical examples where no-one saw anything directly. Children picked up right off the street and abducted on close-knit estates and no-one saw the actual abduction (Daniel Handley for example).

I always think, no-one saw Jill Dando getting shot dead in broad daylight on her own doorstep in central London, but it happened.

 

[Kinners_D]

I believe to the best of my recollection there's a mobile phone last on the bowl roundabout, which is next to the Premier Inn.

Yeah so if that's the case then the phone would be pinging off that tower until it finds a higher strength signal, which is unlikely in the short distance to the house.

 

[Miss_French]

I agree that it has to be him. There are so very many very sad if onlys.
if only Mr X spoke honestly and openly to the Crouchers about his relationship with Leah; if the TVP treated her disappearance as an abduction/ murder from the beginning..

Or if Leah had spoken to her family? There was nothing to say she'd been abducted or murdered, she was missing, hence 'missing person': there seems to be a misconception that the term means someone who has run away.

 

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i just find it hard to believe that no one saw anything. 8:30 or whatever time in the morning, school run/going to work time, I know it was only 500 metres away from where she was last seen but I dunno, somebody must have seen them together going to the address. They MUST have done?

I guess as you say, logically it does make sense, the further she'd travelled the more likely you'd have thought there would have been sightings.

We really have so little information that I doubt sadly will never be known in terms of how much planning and preparation went into it. Was it completely opportunistic in that the attacker was perhaps arriving at the house to carry out some work, spotted Leah and seeing no one around went for it. Or was this pre-meditated and he'd been waiting at the house specifically for opportunities to do something?

 

[Plod]

i just find it hard to believe that no one saw anything. 8:30 or whatever time in the morning, school run/going to work time, I know it was only 500 metres away from where she was last seen but I dunno, somebody must have seen them together going to the address. They MUST have done?

As Miss Scarlet said there’s a car park so nearby he could have easily have grabbed her there and no one would have seen. Plus I think she walked past the house, he’s spoken to her previously and he’s asked her for help . And I think that he held her captive is unlikely because surely neighbors would notice something?

 

[Kinners_D]

He’s been ruled out. Maybe he’s told the police for years what the nature of the relationship was. The police have to go through all possibilities first - did she disappear through choice, then they’d look at family and friends as a large number of murdered people know their murderer . They were probably then looking at sex offenders country wide, and I can only think hd must be on their list. Don’t forget a lot of murders aren’t solved immediately but by change of loyalty or other reasons years later.

It would be in his best interest to tell them everything to rule himself out, as it appears he had nothing to do with it he had nothing to hide from them.

Conversely he has the right to privacy, so the police have no right or reason to release every detail of what he has told them publicly, they stated he was cleared and that is enough. The fact they were so certain that he wasn't involved is a clear sign that he was forthcoming with what was needed.