Found Deceased UK - Libby Squire, 21, last seen getting into taxi outside Welly club, Hull, 31 Jan 2019 #6 *ARREST*

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  • #121
I was thinking why can't someone contact those diving guys who rescued those kids trapped in the caves last year? If I was a diver I'd go and look myself seeing as I don't feel like LE are looking properly but that's just my opinion and I have to trust they're doing things based on the facts they have. I'd still go look myself though.

They don’t seem to be finding anything in that pond maybe you should think about a career as a diver lol
 
  • #122
Because it is a polite, good mannered, civil thing to do?

Or 'sexist' as I was called when holding a door open for a mum and her three kids...
 
  • #123
Correct me if I’m wrong and believe me I am not supporting PR at all but...so far I’ve only seen his historic crimes he is being charged with as alleged? I’m not clever in terms of law or police charges and I understand why they want him charged rather than released. I do think this case is interesting. LS missing is not “interesting or fascinating” as some are saying on other social media but very sad and shocking. I just hope “alleged” becomes proved rather than left as an accusation without evidence. I’m sure police have evidence of course...we just may not know it.
 
  • #124
Why would he go round to the passenger side though? If you’re just giving someone a lift, you don’t do that. Unless the person you’re giving a lift to is incapitated in some way. Which we can assume wouldn’t be the case for someone he’s picking up from work.

My other half does! As soon as we meet he takes my bag (plus coat if I'm carrying it). Gets to the car, opens passenger door, either puts my bag/ coat in or waits for me to get in then hands them to me. Then promptly walks away leaving me to close my own door...... I've never quite got that but feel like I'd come across as critical if I brought it up :rolleyes:
 
  • #125
Am I right in saying that we are in agreement now that the car taken from P’s house is not the one in the CCTV footage?

Therefore, we have Libby missing and the car we believe she got into at her time of disappearance missing? Possibly located in the same place?

Unless police already located P’s car from the CCTV at another location (park?) but have only seen the one removed from his house in the media, which could have been his wife’s?
no
 
  • #126
Or 'sexist' as I was called when holding a door open for a mum and her three kids...

That was a considerate thing to do. Keep doing it, educate the ignorant.
 
  • #127
Because it is a polite, good mannered, civil thing to do?

He’s a 24-year old voyeur who likes to masturbate in the street and break into women’s houses to steal their vibrators.

I find it highly improbable he’s that much of a ‘gentleman’ he insists on opening the passenger door for people when he’s giving them a lift a few minutes up the road.
 
  • #128
I would assume that the car in Haworth Street has to be PR's car and that at some point the police have been able to read the registration number, otherwise what else would have led them to arrest him in the first place?
They appear to know the time that she left the bench, it’s possible that PR’s car could have been seen picking her up from there!?
 
  • #129
Why would he go round to the passenger side though? If you’re just giving someone a lift, you don’t do that. Unless the person you’re giving a lift to is incapitated in some way. Which we can assume wouldn’t be the case for someone he’s picking up from work.

My boyfriend sometimes does this, and when I'm sober! And holds building doors open, and helps me into my coat.
 
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He’s a 24-year old voyeur who likes to masturbate in the street and break into women’s houses to steal their vibrators.

I find it highly improbable he’s that much of a ‘gentleman’ he insists on opening the passenger door for people when he’s giving them a lift a few minutes up the road.

He is an “accused”...etc
 
  • #132
He’s a 24-year old voyeur who likes to masturbate in the street and break into women’s houses to steal their vibrators.

I find it highly improbable he’s that much of a ‘gentleman’ he insists on opening the passenger door for people when he’s giving them a lift a few minutes up the road.

We are talking about this spider web cam guy possibly being an innocent citizen going about his innocent business, not being the wanger waving knicker nicker
 
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  • #133
I'm heading in that direction of thought as well. They seemed so certain to find something - they seemed to be leaving with evidence bags from the undergrowth area on day one.

But for them to hacking away brambles - what are they looking for in there? Something that was thrown? I've not seen one single photo or hint of any DOGS being used in the park. If they were looking for a body wouldn't they be using dogs?

I am starting of the opinion that they are obsessing over the park because that is their last positive trace of Libby.

They are sure she went into the park but never came out?

If they think she was abducted and taken by car, surely they wouldn't be hacking deep into the undergrowth 2 weeks later?

It seems for them all trails go cold in that park.

Where are the dogs?
If she was taken by car then she really could be anywhere. However if they are pretty sure they know the car, and they also know the car was back home lets say 25-30 minutes later, then they may be putting 2 and 2 together to identify the park as a private spot for a crime to be committed that still fits that timeline.
 
  • #134
Have the neighbours who say they saw her turn away from her house been cleared by police? Can you post a link?
Hm, that was my assumption, I must confess, Caravanserai, therefore I'm sorry for any misdirection. There seemed to have been other witnesses (their respective taxi drivers) present during their encounter with Libby. The students are Tom Tulley and Leon Caplin (live opposite according to Sun and Mail, while the Star, probably inaccurately, describes Leon as Libby's housemate). There will presumably be CCTV showing them arriving by taxi at the Welly while Libby goes and sits on the bench. But only an assumption on my part that this means they are cleared.

The Sun:
Two of the last people to see her said she was "falling over drunk" after she got dropped off near her home.
Tom Tully, 20, said: "On the night of her disappearance we were going to the Welly too. It was below zero. The taxi dropped her off. She got out and was walking down the street. She fell over a couple of times. She dressed all in black. We asked her if she was all right and she mumbled something incomprehensible. Libby started walking away from her front door. She was stumbling and fell over. We were going to help but the taxi driver got out and helped her up.” Fellow student Leon Caplin, also 20, added: “Then our taxi came and we had to go. We wish now we had stayed. I hope she is found."
Police divers search river for student, 21, who vanished on 'drunken' night out
 
  • #135
They appear to know the time that she left the bench, it’s possible that PR’s car could have been seen picking her up from there!?
Yes, that's what I mean- that must mean it's definitely his car, otherwise he was arrested on suspicion of abduction for some other reason and I've no idea what that would be.
 
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He’s a 24-year old voyeur who likes to masturbate in the street and break into women’s houses to steal their vibrators.

I find it highly improbable he’s that much of a ‘gentleman’ he insists on opening the passenger door for people when he’s giving them a lift a few minutes up the road.
He’s also been known as a lovely faithful kind family man. He’s manipulating, he’ll open a door if it means he’ll get what he wants...
 
  • #138
Yes, that's what I mean- that must mean it's definitely his car, otherwise he was arrested on suspicion of abduction for some other reason and I've no idea what that would be.
His car seen near Libby, not necessarily Haworth Road.
 
  • #139
I wonder...if she is eventually found in water, or having been in water, and cause of death is drowning...and if she was more or less as fully-clothed as would be expected after a long period of time in water,,,then what?

I feel like at least half the folks here would still think she was murdered and that someone escaped justice. But unless there was a (digital) eye witness or a confession, showing she had been chased until she fell into the river, would not be likely to result in a charge...jmo

Whereas if this was a male college student, ending up in water, with drowning verdict, I feel like it would be accepted a bit more readily, though never by all. Jmo of course.
I don't think this quite paints the full picture, I seem to often read of males being found drowned in bodies of water which were along their way home, at night after drinking heavily, often followed by calls for railings to be erected along riverbanks. But in this case, the waters are not on Libby's route home.
 
  • #140
My partner opens the car door for me always, as did my father, so I don’t find that unusual.

Yes, my hubby does for me too.
 
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