Found Deceased UK - Libby Squire, 21, last seen outside Welly club, Hull, 31 Jan 2019 #10 *ARREST*

[Newthoughts]

How would he plan Libby getting drunk, plan The Welly not letting her in, plan her friends posting her home alone in a taxi, plan her forgetting her keys not having phone, plan her wandering off and sitting in the middle of the road, plan her being put on a bench until he happens to drive past? Plan? Don't think so.

You hope he is lucky? OK. I for one hope he is really unlucky if he did it.

I think you're being a little bit disingenuous with your comment. I think he planned to abduct someone and therefore planned to disposal not that he planned the whole evening. I think that's the only explanation I can think of to explain him being at that location at that time. We all hope that if he's just lucky it changes soon. But if it's planned it may have been more horrible, much b harder to find her and much harder to prove.

 

[Chester]

Disingenuous.....................................................................................................................

Why do you think he planned to abduct someone, kill them and dispose of their body?

Honestly I'm really interested to understand why you think that.

 

[Decemberstars]

Reports of a body in the Humber - could be unrelated and looks like the police are now leaving the area Live as police search underway after 'body' seen by Hull port

 

[Newthoughts]

Disingenuous.....................................................................................................................

Why do you think he planned to abduct someone, kill them and dispose of their body?

Honestly I'm really interested to understand why you think that.

Because now I have more information about student nights and possible buses I can see no other explanation for his being in that place at that time.

Now I have more information about location, date and type of his recent crimes it suggests planning and that he could have previously followed students from that bus.

Because I think the more accidental scenario would, with dogs and searches soon after she was reported missing, would have yielded a body.

However I'm willing to hear your views on this

 

[Sera]

Reports of a body in the Humber - could be unrelated and looks like the police are now leaving the area Live as police search underway after 'body' seen by Hull port

Oh god. I feel sick. I hope it's not a body at all. If it's a body and it's Libby, I'll bawl my eyes out. If it's a body and it's not Libby, I'll still be bloody upset!

 

[jessie]

To be fair we don't know for sure she was waiting for anyone to get off the bus (in fact there was no bus).

So it's a lot of speculation to assume she was waiting for a bus that was never going to come.

Obviously I have no idea of what CCTV/dashcam/witness footage the police have, but I don't think they have ever said Libby was on the bench.

Officers have said Squire was dropped off in a taxi near her home on Wellesley Avenue at 11.29pm on Thursday 31 January and was seen 10 minutes later on CCTV near a bench on Beverley Road

It is important to go with the facts we are told by police because assumptions are confusing.

 

[TheCasual]

Some people are saying she could of been waiting for her friends to return from Welly at the bench.

But Welly doesn't kick out until 3am. I find hard to believe she'd wait there for up to 4 hours on a cold winters night.

 

[Joolz1975]

Obviously I have no idea of what CCTV/dashcam/witness footage the police have, but I don't think they have ever said Libby was on the bench.

Officers have said Squire was dropped off in a taxi near her home on Wellesley Avenue at 11.29pm on Thursday 31 January and was seen 10 minutes later on CCTV near a bench on Beverley Road

It is important to go with the facts we are told by police because assumptions are confusing.

Yes agreed...my bad.

 

[bos]

Oh god. I feel sick. I hope it's not a body at all. If it's a body and it's Libby, I'll bawl my eyes out. If it's a body and it's not Libby, I'll still be bloody upset!

I know, I want something to stop her family living in limbo but where there is no evidence of death ,there is hope , no matter how unlikely that seems

 

[Joolz1975]

Oh god. I feel sick. I hope it's not a body at all. If it's a body and it's Libby, I'll bawl my eyes out. If it's a body and it's not Libby, I'll still be bloody upset!

Feel the same.

It's a long twisty river im not good with how easily bodies travel and the length of time but it's sad isn't it.

 

[jessie]

Yes agreed...my bad.

Not directed at you Joolz, just used your post for a general response on the point.

 

[Chester]

Because now I have more information about student nights and possible buses I can see no other explanation for his being in that place at that time.

Now I have more information about location, date and type of his recent crimes it suggests planning and that he could have previously followed students from that bus.

Because I think the more accidental scenario would, with dogs and searches soon after she was reported missing, would have yielded a body.

However I'm willing to hear your views on this

How very generous of you ;-)

Nothing that he has been charged with suggests he is anything more that an alleged voyeur.

I'm not saying he didn't do it, I'm just not buying the planned bit.

If the quote from his sister refers to Libby and the night in question (neither have been confirmed) then it seems likely he has something to do with her leaving the bench. It would make sense that he is the one in the spidercam CCTV. After that who knows what happened. At present we know nothing after that point. I'm prepared to wait rather than jump to huge conclusions based on no evidence.

 

[Ryuk]

Does any of my fellow locals know if they ever found Kerry Hawood? She went missing around this time last year, also on Beverley Rd.

 

[Chester]

Some people are saying she could of been waiting for her friends to return from Welly at the bench.

But Welly doesn't kick out until 3am. I find hard to believe she'd wait there for up to 4 hours on a cold winters night.

She was very drunk, logic doesn't enter into it.

 

[astheworldfallsdown]

I hope it's not Libby. I hope it's a false alarm and not a body at all.

 

[Joolz1975]

Not directed at you Joolz, just used your post for a general response on the point.

No problem at all.

X

 

[ly502]

She was waiting for friends to get off thatt bus not waiting for a bus. Someone supporting her mother said she'd forgotten her key and went to wait for her friends. That is possibly what she told grey beard which would allay any concerns he might have had. I imagine it's the nearest place to sit.

Sorry...I thought I had been reading everything pretty closely. It was confirmed that she did not have her keys?

 

[Joolz1975]

Sorry...I thought I had been reading everything pretty closely. It was confirmed that she did not have her keys?

No it wasn't, just speculation I think.

 

[Cherwell]

Obviously I have no idea of what CCTV/dashcam/witness footage the police have, but I don't think they have ever said Libby was on the bench.

Officers have said Squire was dropped off in a taxi near her home on Wellesley Avenue at 11.29pm on Thursday 31 January and was seen 10 minutes later on CCTV near a bench on Beverley Road

It is important to go with the facts we are told by police because assumptions are confusing.

Yes, I've always had the idea that she fell over or was on the ground (hence describing her as "distressed") near the bench, and that is why the man stopped to see if she needed help.

 

[ly502]

1 agree to disagree

2 brazen burglary bringing him much closer to potential victims. Knowing those victims would possess items of interest rather than just flashing random females.

3 The evidence has to be pretty good for CPS to allow the charges.

4 agree to disagree but reportedly emotionless not numb.

5 whatever he said to his sister HE reported coming into contact with her. It is likely cobweb CCTV also shows that.

His crimes are sexual and nasty. If he let her go as stated there are limited options. She was drunk so making it into the centre of a park or to a river where she wouldn't be found is unlikely. Coming across another sexually motivated criminal is unlikely. Can't think of any other options. So he's lucky she hasn't been found.

6 my opinion is that it is more than luck. My opinion is it was planned. But that's my opinion. I hope it's wrong and he is merely lucky

Planned to the extent that he was stalking LS, or planned that he was out "looking" for someone vulnerable?