Found Deceased UK - Libby Squire, 21, last seen outside Welly club, Hull, 31 Jan 2019 #11 *ARREST*

[Officer Dibble]

Hi everyone,
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I find shorts an odd choice given the weather that night but I keep see 3/4 length leggings like women used to wear once over (not so much now). If a man opts for shorts (odd as it is on a freezing cold night)they are usually more baggy in style. Frustrating isn’t it.

They are shorts. On the enhanced video's you can see the bottom of the baggy shorts. We discussed this at length a while back.

 

[MsMiniSleuth]

Wonder if he will change his plea to any or all of the charges later today?

 

[Officer Dibble]

I wonder if PR had access to another car belonging to a family member. He could have told someone he had problems with his own car and could he borrow a car to get to work then transported LS body in that car and disposed of her on his way to work after having stored her body in the alleyway LE searched with police dogs. I am allowing my imagination to think of all sorts of scenarios as no evidence of her seems to have been found

Very good point. We discussed early on about the MSM quote from his neighbour that two men were often seen in PR's car and he never understood who owned that car. Who is the other man then?

 

[MsMiniSleuth]

Any way of finding details of a caution a Polish person got back in 2017 in Hull for a taxi 'incident'? Or are these not recorded in the public domain?

 

[DanCJ]

I've since visited My Hull. It allowed me to see the location of the CCTV cameras around the area. It probably backs up what Humberside Police probably know, that he couldn't have left Hull that night and probably hasn't on the following nights that they monitored him. It doesn't rule out he could of used another vehicle though, but the likelihood is slim to me. Still I would of thought they would of took note of all his friends car details from his phone at the time.

Hmm... so Libby is still within the City of Hull contrary to my earlier thoughts or the River/Sea Theory.

How sophisticated is the level of technology that is available these days? Are there scanners that can pick up remains so many feet deep in the ground? Can boat searches be sent out to scan the surface of whats beneath them?

 

[DanCJ]

Update: Ground Penetrating Radar does exist amongst Fluid Measurements in the soil. I hope they have combed as much of the park as they can with these tools. However, the GPR price costs starts from around £10,000 ($14,000 to our American friends) so I'll be honest I cant afford one!

 

[Winterbells]

Not a new report from MSM, but one I hadn't seen before, in which it claims the police are worried Libby was dumped in the river. "Detectives probing the disappearance of 21-year-old student Libby fear she may have been abducted before being dumped in the fast-flowing river which flows into the Humber estuary".

Also the witness who says she heard the screaming from Oak Road playing fields, says she felt they came from towards the pond (a fishing pond?) and then she saw a man running away, who didn't look back. If someone (such as PR) liked fishing, I assume they'd fish in that pond and know it well. I also assume the police have thoroughly searched it.

Weird that we've seen cctv footage of a man running away from the park. I know the timing isn't the same and he DOES look back, but... odd really. It surely not the norm for men to run away from the park is it?

It also says: "... CCTV revealed that she went to sit on a bench around 300 yards away on Beverley Road. She was last seen on adjacent Beresford Avenue at just after midnight before disappearing."

Is it possible that Libby went from the bench, to the car and then in the car, along Beresford Avenue but the police aren't telling the public about the 'in a car' bit?

I can see that Beresford Avenue leads straight to the park.

Libby Squire disappearance: 'Eerie' screaming heard as student vanishes

 

[Winterbells]

In another report (okay I know it's the cr@ppy Daily Mail), it says this:
"11.45pm: Libby was seen sitting on a bench around the corner on Beverley Road. A witness says she was seen speaking to the driver of a car.

12.09am: Detectives believe Libby stayed in the area for about half an hour and was wandering the streets near her student digs."

If it was Greybeard the witness saw Libby speaking to, then it looks like Greybeard only came forward as a result of the police asking him to. Unless it was PR she was seen speaking to?

Police are granted another 24 hours to quiz Polish butcher over Libby Squire | Daily Mail Online

 

[scootermuppet]

'Missing Libby could have been any one of us'


'Missing Libby could have been any one of us'

 

[Mollie123]

In another report (okay I know it's the cr@ppy Daily Mail), it says this:
"11.45pm: Libby was seen sitting on a bench around the corner on Beverley Road. A witness says she was seen speaking to the driver of a car.

12.09am: Detectives believe Libby stayed in the area for about half an hour and was wandering the streets near her student digs."

If it was Greybeard the witness saw Libby speaking to, then it looks like Greybeard only came forward as a result of the police asking him to. Unless it was PR she was seen speaking to?

Police are granted another 24 hours to quiz Polish butcher over Libby Squire | Daily Mail Online

Hi. I brought all of this up a while ago. But general consensus on here was the early reporting had got things wrong? I think it was right and was changed to read what is said now for reasons only known to them.

 

[LastSeenWearing]

'Missing Libby could have been any one of us'


'Missing Libby could have been any one of us'

I totally agree with this. Every day and several times a day I think of Libby and her poor despairing family and friends and wrack my.brain as to where she is now and what could have happened. I still desperately hope she is alive somewhere. That could be my daughter who too lived on Wellesley Avenue as a student at Hull University. There are many parents of students and Hull locals on here who I think like me can't come to terms that this is all happening in Hull. I hope at the start of PRs trial today some answers start. Thinking of Libby and her family today as every day since 1st February.

 

[bos]

Any way of finding details of a caution a Polish person got back in 2017 in Hull for a taxi 'incident'? Or are these not recorded in the public domain?

Cautions are recorded on the police national computer and aren’t public ally available.

 

[Vermont24]

Not a new report from MSM, but one I hadn't seen before, in which it claims the police are worried Libby was dumped in the river. "Detectives probing the disappearance of 21-year-old student Libby fear she may have been abducted before being dumped in the fast-flowing river which flows into the Humber estuary".

Also the witness who says she heard the screaming from Oak Road playing fields, says she felt they came from towards the pond (a fishing pond?) and then she saw a man running away, who didn't look back. If someone (such as PR) liked fishing, I assume they'd fish in that pond and know it well. I also assume the police have thoroughly searched it.

Weird that we've seen cctv footage of a man running away from the park. I know the timing isn't the same and he DOES look back, but... odd really. It surely not the norm for men to run away from the park is it?

It also says: "... CCTV revealed that she went to sit on a bench around 300 yards away on Beverley Road. She was last seen on adjacent Beresford Avenue at just after midnight before disappearing."

Is it possible that Libby went from the bench, to the car and then in the car, along Beresford Avenue but the police aren't telling the public about the 'in a car' bit?

I can see that Beresford Avenue leads straight to the park.

Libby Squire disappearance: 'Eerie' screaming heard as student vanishes

The Express is part of the same group as The Mirror, who I'm currently in the midst of a complaints procedure with for fabricating a quote from me. MSM they may be, but take it with a hefty pinch of salt. They pay 'onlookers' for information, regardless of how unsubstantiated it may me.

Police have never publicly acknowledged the chance of LS being in the river, and certainly wouldn't tell a journalist that. More likely, that's what the journalist extrapolated from the river searches, and they ran with it.

Additionally, the Oak Road CCTV isn't near any houses, so you're not seeing the same 'running man' there, or certainly not at the same moment the witness is claiming.

 

[Newthoughts]

I totally agree with this. Every day and several times a day I think of Libby and her poor despairing family and friends and wrack my.brain as to where she is now and what could have happened. I still desperately hope she is alive somewhere. That could be my daughter who too lived on Wellesley Avenue as a student at Hull University. There are many parents of students and Hull locals on here who I think like me can't come to terms that this is all happening in Hull. I hope at the start of PRs trial today some answers start. Thinking of Libby and her family today as every day since 1st February.

Just to say I agree with everything in the article and everything you've said. And to add that her poor friends and grey beard and all the officers involved must feel awful too.

 

[Joolz1975]

The Express is part of the same group as The Mirror, who I'm currently in the midst of a complaints procedure with for fabricating a quote from me. MSM they may be, but take it with a hefty pinch of salt. They pay 'onlookers' for information, regardless of how unsubstantiated it may me.

Police have never publicly acknowledged the chance of LS being in the river, and certainly wouldn't tell a journalist that. More likely, that's what the journalist extrapolated from the river searches, and they ran with it.

Additionally, the Oak Road CCTV isn't near any houses, so you're not seeing the same 'running man' there, or certainly not at the same moment the witness is claiming.

Absolutely.

I've stopped reading the media stories, no answers will be found in those.

 

[bos]

I totally agree with this. Every day and several times a day I think of Libby and her poor despairing family and friends and wrack my.brain as to where she is now and what could have happened. I still desperately hope she is alive somewhere. That could be my daughter who too lived on Wellesley Avenue as a student at Hull University. There are many parents of students and Hull locals on here who I think like me can't come to terms that this is all happening in Hull. I hope at the start of PRs trial today some answers start. Thinking of Libby and her family today as every day since 1st February.

Absolutely. My mind keeps coming back to that damn park and wondering if it’s been searched thoroughly. I know we probably haven’t been privy to all searches but a niggling doubt remains

 

[Newthoughts]

The Express is part of the same group as The Mirror, who I'm currently in the midst of a complaints procedure with for fabricating a quote from me. MSM they may be, but take it with a hefty pinch of salt. They pay 'onlookers' for information, regardless of how unsubstantiated it may me.

Police have never publicly acknowledged the chance of LS being in the river, and certainly wouldn't tell a journalist that. More likely, that's what the journalist extrapolated from the river searches, and they ran with it.

Additionally, the Oak Road CCTV isn't near any houses, so you're not seeing the same 'running man' there, or certainly not at the same moment the witness is claiming.

Can I just say that the Express is possibly the worst paper I've ever come across for accuracy of reporting. When you consider how low the Daily Mail and Sun have set that bar that's saying something.

They've only recently been taken over by Mirror group, they were even worse.

 

[bos]

Can I just say that the Express is possibly the worst paper I've ever come across for accuracy of reporting. When you consider how low the Daily Mail and Sun have set that bar that's saying something.

They've only recently been taken over by Mirror group, they were even worse.

I wouldn’t even dignify them with the title of newspaper; their content is predicting the coldest winter/hottest summer ever; the danger of statins;BBC Breakfast’s weather presenter with a smattering of Diana. They truly are a waste of trees.

 

[Inspecthernightly]

I've passed over the river Hull a few times in the last few weeks and have actually been really surprised at how low it was. It was almost as though there was no water at all.

It does go from very low water to high, its a tidal river afterall. Even at myton bridge it goes right down to mud at low tide with a shallowish channel running out to the humber. At high tide at myton bridge and and even to the stretch past oak road its quite deep.

 

[Newthoughts]

I wouldn’t even dignify them with the title of newspaper; their content is predicting the coldest winter/hottest summer ever; the danger of statins;BBC Breakfast’s weather presenter with a smattering of Diana. They truly are a waste of trees.

Yes I'm amazed they haven't got 'Diana's psychic' onto the case yet. They usually wheel her in to affirm Diana's approval for their political agenda.