Found Deceased UK - Libby Squire, 21, last seen outside Welly club, Hull, 31 Jan 2019 #11 *ARREST*

[motherofdaughters]

I cannot understand why they (LE) haven't gone down this route. Can only be led to believe they know that's not what happened.
As for any hot spots en route, there are literally hundreds.

Do we know for sure they haven't?

 

[Vermont24]

I cannot understand why they (LE) haven't gone down this route. Can only be led to believe they know that's not what happened.
As for any hot spots en route, there are literally hundreds.

Agreed. It gets pretty rural quickly once you're north of Beverley. If it hasn't been checked, though, you'd have to suspect it's because the probability of her being in that direction is low.

 

[Plod]

Do we know for sure they haven't?

I thought I read that the workforce was transport via bus from hull to factory. Maybe he never drive himself. Doesn’t rule out that he wouldn’t have transported her there - but I don’t think he has. I guess the police have concentrated on where they think she was, DNA/dog evidence/ cctv.

 

[motherofdaughters]

I thought I read that the workforce was transport via bus from hull to factory. Maybe he never drive himself. Doesn’t rule out that he wouldn’t have transported her there - but I don’t think he has. I guess the police have concentrated on where they think she was, DNA/dog evidence/ cctv.

That's certainly what happens for similar production factories here. There are buses. Of course you can drive yourself but if there was a free bus, you'd take it

JMO but I'd guess LE have no evidence to say she left the immediate vicinity, or where do you widen the search area too, and after that, do you widen it again?

 

[Vermont24]

I thought I read that the workforce was transport via bus from hull to factory. Maybe he never drive himself. Doesn’t rule out that he wouldn’t have transported her there - but I don’t think he has. I guess the police have concentrated on where they think she was, DNA/dog evidence/ cctv.

That could be true. I grew up on Beverley Road. When I was working early shifts I would see large groups of migrant workers waiting for a private bus to pick them up. This might be a common thing.

 

[Mollie123]

Trawling through all of the still available MSM reports and photos, the 'luminol door', again do we know if any other property was tested? Also the dog search a few doors along which was wrongly reported as Libbys house. Any theories?

 

[LastSeenWearing]

If he had transported her dead in his car at any point then the cadaver dogs would have picked up the scent, it is not possible for him to have disposed of her on the way to work in his regular car

I wonder if PR had access to another car belonging to a family member. He could have told someone he had problems with his own car and could he borrow a car to get to work then transported LS body in that car and disposed of her on his way to work after having stored her body in the alleyway LE searched with police dogs. I am allowing my imagination to think of all sorts of scenarios as no evidence of her seems to have been found

 

[Oulton]

That could be true. I grew up on Beverley Road. When I was working early shifts I would see large groups of migrant workers waiting for a private bus to pick them up. This might be a common thing.

It’s common in Suffolk and Norfolk to bus in workers to the chicken factories.

 

[DanCJ]

Yes I appreciate that the belief that chances are quite low of her being along this route, however I think it must be considered. Since the more obvious search areas have proved fruitless... so far.

 

[Vermont24]

Trawling through all of the still available MSM reports and photos, the 'luminol door', again do we know if any other property was tested? Also the dog search a few doors along which was wrongly reported as Libbys house. Any theories?

I suspect that both were related to either the previous Wellesley public decency issue, or the fact a known sex offender lived on the same street.

Edit - I've worded that terribly, sorry.

 

[Mollie123]

I suspect that both were related to either the previous Wellesley public decency issue, or the fact a known sex offender lived on the same street.

Edit - I've worded that terribly, sorry.

Yes, true, thank you.

 

[motherofdaughters]

I suspect that both were related to either the previous Wellesley public decency issue, or the fact a known sex offender lived on the same street.

Edit - I've worded that terribly, sorry.

I may have misinterpreted previous posts but I was of the thinking there may be... errr...deposits....on the door?

 

[Happylappy101]

I'm wondering the same. What weight would an existing restraining order, for example, carry in the decision? @Happylappy101

It’s usually the likeliness to abscond, the risk of reoffending on bail, a threat to public safety, how likely he is to stay communicative with his local authority, interfering with witnesses etc. There are a number of considerations the judge will have to think about.

If he is released, he will be likely to surrender a surety e.g. his passport. The nature of the crimes charged (whether indictable, triable-either-way, summary etc (from most to least serious)) will be taken into account too. His previous convictions will be considered also.

If his house is currently being searched, I think that would also be a risk to him interfering with the course of justice so perhaps it won’t be granted. Hope this helps!

 

[Little Nicki]

I think that even if he did drive to work (rather than get the bus) he wouldn't make the journey alone.

A minimum wage factory worker paying his own fuel to commute over 2 hours a day while trying to support a wife and 2 young children doesn't seem feasible to me. He would definitely be splitting the cost with at least 1 other worker IMO

 

[Vermont24]

It’s usually the likeliness to abscond, the risk of reoffending on bail, a threat to public safety, how likely he is to stay communicative with his local authority, interfering with witnesses etc. There are a number of considerations the judge will have to think about.

If he is released, he will be likely to surrender a surety e.g. his passport. The nature of the crimes charged (whether indictable, triable-either-way, summary etc (from most to least serious)) will be taken into account too. His previous convictions will be considered also.

If his house is currently being searched, I think that would also be a risk to him interfering with the course of justice so perhaps he won’t be granted. Hope this helps!

You're spoiling us. Thank you!

 

[HopeForGoodNews]

I think that even if he did drive to work (rather than get the bus) he wouldn't make the journey alone.

A minimum wage factory worker paying his own fuel to commute over 2 hours a day while trying to support a wife and 2 young children doesn't seem feasible to me. He would definitely be splitting the cost with at least 1 other worker IMO

I've just looked at a job advert for Karro foods in Malton. It says at the bottom that they provide help with transport to work.

Malton Foods Jobs in York YO23 - March 2019 | Indeed.co.uk

Not sure what support this is but sounds as though they may get an allowance ???

 

[Vermont24]

I've just looked at a job advert for Karro foods in Malton. It says at the bottom that they provide help with transport to work.

Malton Foods Jobs in York YO23 - March 2019 | Indeed.co.uk

Not sure what Support this is but sounds as though they may get an allowance ???

All of that 'Support with' section reads as though they are targeting a largely migrant workforce. I'd suspect that means there's transport put on for them.

Maybe PR doesn't know the route as well as we've imagined.

 

[kate2931]

>modsnip - sharing personal information unrelated to this case<

From earlier, I absolutely don’t think he targeted students only. But as Vermont had stated, students are plentiful in the area. Not sure we will ever know or understand why he chose certain victims.

 

[Audiohoney]

It’s usually the likeliness to abscond, the risk of reoffending on bail, a threat to public safety, how likely he is to stay communicative with his local authority, interfering with witnesses etc. There are a number of considerations the judge will have to think about.

If he is released, he will be likely to surrender a surety e.g. his passport. The nature of the crimes charged (whether indictable, triable-either-way, summary etc (from most to least serious)) will be taken into account too. His previous convictions will be considered also.

If his house is currently being searched, I think that would also be a risk to him interfering with the course of justice so perhaps it won’t be granted. Hope this helps!

Thanks HappyL. To be honest I hadn’t even considered that he might be granted bail. I thought the flight risk alone would see him refused. Would his own safety be taken into consideration? ie: refused bail for his own safety?

I also wondered if you might know why only 6 charges are listed for tomorrow’s court appearance when we know there are 12?

 

[Oulton]

I've just looked at a job advert for Karro foods in Malton. It says at the bottom that they provide help with transport to work.

Malton Foods Jobs in York YO23 - March 2019 | Indeed.co.uk

Not sure what support this is but sounds as though they may get an allowance ???

It’ll be the bus they put on I should imagine.