Found Deceased UK - Libby Squire, 21, last seen outside Welly club, Hull, 31 Jan 2019 #11 *ARREST*

[Nine Lives]

True, the handling stolen good charge does indicate some sort of criminal networking... you would have to know or believe the goods to be stolen and they are indeed stolen, along with dishonesty. Not a light charge by any means, up to 14 years imprisonment.

Hmm I think that could be overdoing it. Handling stolen goods could be as simple as taking some piece off a bloke in a pub

 

[Happylappy101]

Personally I doubt she is victim to sex trafficking though

 

[JosieJo]

I totally appreciate anything is possible and respect everyone has an opinion ..but
I really struggle with linking trafficking to this case ...and I really cant link an accomplice based on him having received stolen goods

 

[Quintet]

No British nationals would not be untouchable but Libby taken off a bench or into a car would still be abduction. Trafficking 99.9% likely is not going to involve an abduction. People have gone over the info and statistics as to why earlier.
I'd eat a hat of any one's choosing it trafficking was in any way involved!

Ah, ok. I had thought they had changed the wording to kidnap and that had been linked with trafficking. I haven’t a clue. just intrigued as to why locals are swaying that way. No worries.

 

[Coach]

If they found evidence for the latest charges in his house, would they have questioned his wife as well or could she have given them information that led to the new charges?

 

[LastSeenWearing]

I wondered about keys a while back.

None of these house look particularly secluded so you would think, however he got in was pretty subtle...otherwise he may have been spotted (climbing through a window for example). I know if anyone was spotted climbing through my window Hetty Wainthrop over the road would be on to 101 immediately (Maybe not every street has nosey neighbours like mine). Any may be not every street is as busy or well lit either.

Also if some of these were student housing maybe the individual bedrooms would have locks on, how has he got around that? I've never lived in shared accommodation but if I did I'd lock my own door when I went out.

My daughter lived in a shared student house on Wellesley Avenue and all the bedrooms had locks on them and all the students always locked them when they went out

 

[Quintet]

I totally appreciate anything is possible and respect everyone has an opinion ..but
I really struggle with linking trafficking to this case ...and I really cant link an accomplice based on him having received stolen goods

Wonder why the locals feel that that could be such a possibility tho, that is what I’m intrigued about.

 

[Vermont24]

Ah, ok. I had thought they had changed the wording to kidnap and that had been linked with trafficking. I haven’t a clue. just intrigued as to why locals are swaying that way. No worries.

Locals are saying trafficking because of articles like this:

Shocking number of arrests for human trafficking in Newland Avenue

An incredible number of people who frequent the HDM Facebook page clearly don't read beyond the headline, and it just snowballs from there. It's amazing/terrifying to watch it develop over time. They see 'trafficking' and assume people are being snatched off the street, rather than vulnerable people often from Southeast Asia being forced to work in services and industries which they themselves use.

 

[Armchair_Defective]

Ah, ok. I had thought they had changed the wording to kidnap and that had been linked with trafficking. I haven’t a clue. just intrigued as to why locals are swaying that way. No worries.

My theory is that locals feel unnerved with someone disappearing like that. Blaming it on a sinister organisation feels better than accepting it's a seemingly
' ordinary ' individual. Trafficking doesn't really fit though as it's usually poorer Eastern European people coming voluntarily into the UK. Hopefully we'll learn the truth soon.

 

[Chester]

If they found evidence for the latest charges in his house, would they have questioned his wife as well or could she have given them information that led to the new charges?

Both unlikely.

 

[Quintet]

Locals are saying trafficking because of articles like this:

Shocking number of arrests for human trafficking in Newland Avenue

An incredible number of people who frequent the HDM Facebook page clearly don't read beyond the headline, and it just snowballs from there. It's amazing/terrifying to watch it develop over time. They see 'trafficking' and assume people are being snatched off the street, rather than vulnerable people often from Southeast Asia being forced to work in services and industries which they themselves use.

Ah I see. I don’t have the FB, just listened to our local member and seen ITN report re the Hull Romanian girls to be fair.

 

[Chester]

Locals are saying trafficking because of articles like this:

Shocking number of arrests for human trafficking in Newland Avenue

An incredible number of people who frequent the HDM Facebook page clearly don't read beyond the headline, and it just snowballs from there. It's amazing/terrifying to watch it develop over time. They see 'trafficking' and assume people are being snatched off the street, rather than vulnerable people often from Southeast Asia being forced to work in services and industries which they themselves use.

Absolutely, it's rife across the entire country. Nail bars, massage parlours, takeaways, factories as well as prostitution. But it's people being brought in, not the other way around.

 

[Vermont24]

Ah I see. I don’t have the FB, just listened to our local member and seen ITN report re the Hull Romanian girls to be fair.

I'm from Hull myself, and as a city we have certain socioeconomic issues issues. It points to larger changes in the way we consume news though, and in particular the role played by SM in that. The way we engage with information now is becoming increasingly shallow. To my mind, that's why the 'trafficking theory' is so popular locally - due to a fundamental misunderstanding of the issue to begin with.

I could rant now, but I won't.

 

[Vermont24]

Absolutely, it's rife across the entire country. Nail bars, massage parlours, takeaways, factories as well as prostitution. But it's people being brought in, not the other way around.

Spot on, and all excellent examples.

 

[Quintet]

I'm from Hull myself, and as a city we have certain socioeconomic issues issues. It points to larger changes in the way we consume news though, and in particular the role played by SM in that. The way we engage with information now is becoming increasingly shallow.

I could rant now, but I won't.

I did have SM until a couple of years ago, but, decided it was unhealthy in the main. I’m originally from Hull also, Inglemire Lane, about 5 mins away from LS house I think.

 

[Officer Dibble]

Can’t say I’m surprised.

Are y ou going back to court on the 11th?

 

[Officer Dibble]

very effective comparison!! thank you

and lie detector tests are not used in courts of law in the UK

 

[Newthoughts]

Receiving stolen goods may just be to cover the fact they can’t prove he personally stole them? I thought?
Could it be that he bought them knowing they were stolen, would that come under the same umbrella.

I don’t think BN’s are untouchable, no. I’m sure it happens. Very rarely but I’m sure it does. Like cars, stolen to order?
I think snatching a middle class British student is going to be far more risky than a potentially less ‘missed’ eastern European (or other nationality) who are likely more vulnerable.
Seems a dangerous move to me.

I agree. I think IF you were going to snatch a BN wouldn't you target runaways or people just out of the care system? More vulnerable and far less likely to be missed? That's what I'd think.

PR seems to like students and young women who have homes. People who are more likely to have friends and family that would miss them straight away.

Can't really see him being part of a multi million pound organised crime ring. But maybe the stolen goods charge will change that. Though still not trafficking

 

[Newthoughts]

I hope so for sure! Me personally, if my husband was going out as often as he seems to have, I would be having a ruddy great rummage to make sure he wasn’t up to no good!! I’m just suspicious I reckon! Ha

Me too

I've pondered on that wondered if she could have known something possibly? Maybe not the pervy stuff but she might have known about stealing laptops and things?

 

[Newthoughts]

Question, and one which I may have missed the answer to. If so, apologies.

15 got some CSI attention early on. Did anybody figure out why? Perhaps because of an earlier incident, or a known sex offender living on the street?

If the former - how long would the evidence last? If the latter