UK - Libby Squire, 21, last seen outside Welly club, Hull, 31 Jan 2019 #20

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“We had sex and then she started making the same sounds as if she wanted to vomit, that’s why I stopped”
No. You stopped because you had achieved ejaculation!!
Yes, because he probably can't last three seconds.
 
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"Rafal then asked me where I took her so I took her where she told me to and at the end of the road she started undoing my trousers and that we had sex.”
PR’s friend R did not testify that PR told him they had sex. So the friend lied?
 
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Just my personal musings, but I wonder if these statements from the defendant about Libby being on drugs, could be projection. Could he have been on drugs??
It could fit with his hyper aroused state and impulsivity.
 
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Plus he got the moon thing wrong (allegedly!). I don't think we can trust any ear witness 100%, you could pick faults with any of their testimonies. Is this the two students who had their windows open? I know that was mentioned before as I remember thinking 'who are these people with their windows open in the middle of a snowy January night?' ;) Maybe that made the screams clearer to them. The students are also more likely to have been awake at the times of the screams, and not recently roused from sleep like Mr Alford.

Also cannot really discount the accounts of two people because they are students, when it was two students who were astute enough to notice the used condom.

Thick snow here and I sleep with a top window open every night.
 
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Just my personal musings, but I wonder if these statements from the defendant about Libby being on drugs, could be projection. Could he have been on drugs??
It could fit with his hyper aroused state and impulsivity.

Viagra?
 
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I think they unchain them while they are on the stand, but stand very close by.
They would have to otherwise when asked to raise their hand and give oath the chained up officer would be doing the same, surely?
 
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I was thinking more along the lines of a stimulant like cocaine or amphetamines, but it is just a thought on my part, nothing more.

Of course, Viagra could be a possibility too. Ironically, it is actually used to treat pulmonary hypertension, which can be caused by methamphetamine abuse.
 
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Im surprised PR still knows his own name, so many lies coming out now.E="ChiCubs2016, post: 16588054, member: 227814"]You did not dream this. You are correct. We are now hearing new versions of PR’s lies.[/QUOTE]

You did not dream this. You are correct. We are now hearing new versions of PR’s lies.
 
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Thanks for all the updates jamjim
 
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Relowicz said: “To avoid problems and trouble. I didn’t want anyone to know that I did that"

Exactly why he is lying about libby!
Spot on! JMO
 
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Thanks for all the updates @jamjim
 
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Thank you @jamjim . I had to speed read through this pm’s posts as I had been out with the dogs so it was great to be able to zero in on yours to catch up, thank you.
 
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@jamjim thank you for the updates!
 
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Thanks once again Jamjim. Nearly 4.00am here. Once you start your posts I'm here reading.
 
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Bulls@@@,bulls@@@ and more bulls@@@. Needs a big book throwing at him
 
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I think it's deliberate. I haven't noticed, but I'm guessing the prosecution refer to her as 'Libby'. I think the defence don't want the jury thinking of Libby as anything other than an anonymous character named 'Squire', whereas the prosecution of course want the jury picturing a young, harmless, vulnerable girl, not much more than a child, with a name, and a family and everything.
Horrible tactic.

Let's hope it backfires then because she was a vulnerable young harmless girl with a whole future and that needs to remain forefront of the jury's mind.
 
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