UK - Libby Squire, 21, last seen outside Welly club, Hull, 31 Jan 2019 #20

[Cherwell]

I got the impression it was the journalist rather than the QC referring to Libby as 'Squire'. If so, it could possibly be due to the press style book that her publication chooses to follow. I can see why it would seem cold, but it's quite common.

It doesn't matter who said it. This way of referring to a person is cold, it is disrespectful and it depersonalises.
I know it is common, it is becoming more common here in the UK and I don't like that.

 

[mrazda71]

He attended a gym so I did wonder if he'd been on steroids or testosterone?

I think he'd have a much more defined physique if he was going to the gym often and using steroids - I think too that steroids for that purpose can actually cause problems with sexual performance rather than enhancing it.

 

[Alyce]

We were told the cctv on Claremont Ave picked up his car - on Oak Road - and also showed PR and Libby getting out of the car and going into the park.
PR's version ( sorry I've lost count exactly which one ) says everything happened at the side and the front of his car. So wouldn't the cctv show this activity as well ?

 

[Mommysleuth11]

WOW what a day. Thanks @jamjim for the updates as always.

Imo any doubts that may have existed over PR will have fettered away today with his whole load of and bull stories, whats that old saying, 'if it doesn't make sense, its probably not true'.
I'm really pleased he took the stand actually, I don't think he could have done much worse.

 

[Alyce]

Just adding this as a bit more detail on the Viking report



Hull DM report
Relowicz said: “I was emotionally broken down that I had cheated on my wife.”

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Relowicz has told the jury Libby was shouting at him not to leave her as he drove away. He then went onto say "I was emotionally broken down that I had cheated on my wife for the first time in my life.''

 

[Edinlass]

Wow he lies extremely easily, very dangerous, very! Is there enough evidence to convict him of murder though, I don’t know tbh. I’m not saying he didn’t, I’m just thinking out loud with the evidence we have thus far. Hopefully more comes out because I never want this guy back on our streets...

 

[Alyce]

WOW what a day. Thanks @jamjim for the updates as always.

Imo any doubts that may have existed over PR will have fettered away today with his whole load of and bull stories, whats that old saying, 'if it doesn't make sense, its probably not true'.
I'm really pleased he took the stand actually, I don't think he could have done much worse.

and there's still tomorrow for him to dig an even bigger hole for himself

 

[Mommysleuth11]

Some thoughts i had on the bench activity at ORPF.
Is it possible that forensics were there looking for evidence of one of his prior crimes? Did someone report seeing him up to his tricks there, not related to the night of Libbys disappearance, similarly to the Wellesley Ave conviction?
If evidence couldn't be found to prove the claims is it possible it was a reported offence he wasn't then charged with?
Iirc at this point humberside police were running all over the place desperately trying to find enough to charge and keep hold of him because they couldn't charge him (at that point) with anything relating to Libby, but were keen to not have him released back on the streets.

 

[Newthoughts]

Thanks @jamjim

 

[Mommysleuth11]

and there's still tomorrow for him to dig an even bigger hole for himself

Absolutely, though I do still have a problem with the timing I think the jury will surely be looking at whether his alternative explanation is plausible, he's just (thankfully) effed that right up. Moo

 

[Newthoughts]

Wow he lies extremely easily, very dangerous, very! Is there enough evidence to convict him of murder though, I don’t know tbh. I’m not saying he didn’t, I’m just thinking out loud with the evidence we have thus far. Hopefully more comes out because I never want this guy back on our streets...

I think so too. I think it's very lucky that nobody was out on his second prowl that night.

I hope so cos I'm sure he'll do it again.

 

[Winterbells]

Presumably PR's claim that Libby was trying the wrong car door handles was to make innocent the t0-ing and fro-ing the prosecution described, which, it seems, couldn't be confirmed as coersion, by whatever cctv footage was available.

 

[mrazda71]

I'm certain, on one piece of cctv, (red and green arrows above their heads) that he can be seen pulling on Libbys arm (both of their their arms are outstretched) as she is trying to cling on to a bus shelter - that hardly seems like her willingly going with him.

 

[Newthoughts]

I'm certain, on one piece of cctv, (red and green arrows above their heads) that he can be seen pulling on Libbys arm (both of their their arms are outstretched) as she is trying to cling on to a bus shelter - that hardly seems like her willingly going with him.

Yes I noticed that too.

 

[Stumpyaura]

He didn't explain why he went back to his car without Libby when he first picked her up and then she came a few minutes later. Obviously it appears that he was waiting for the other car to drive off, not something you'd need to do if you were innocently helping a drunk young girl home

 

[Dotta]

Viagra?

Isn't he too young for that?

 

[Newthoughts]

He didn't explain why he went back to his car without Libby when he first picked her up and then she came a few minutes later. Obviously it appears that he was waiting for the other car to drive off, not something you'd need to do if you were innocently helping a drunk young girl home

Indeed that was very odd. Why not just get in a go. He clearly hadn't sussed spider cam was there.

 

[Skigh]

Isn't he too young for that?

It was a flippant comment.

 

[Stumpyaura]

Also, he has been quoted as saying how devastated he was for cheating on his wife for the first time ever - why on earth has he then admitted that he was out looking for opportunities to masturbate or looking for sex??! It makes no sense that a happily married man would be out looking for sex for the first EVER, the night that he happens upon a drunk, vulnerable girl who then makes a move on him - so many coincidences! I said before he reminded me of Ian Stewart from the Helen Bailey trial and he is definitely living up to the same level of ridiculousness, lies and pure fantasy. No wonder defence are scraping the barrel with their questionable suggestions, they haven't got anything credible to work with

 

[Dotta]

It was a flippant comment.