UK - Libby Squire, 21, last seen outside Welly club, Hull, 31 Jan 2019 #23

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The judge now recapping Relowicz's movements

Justice Lambert reminding the jury of the movements of Relowizc captured on CCTV when he met Libby and they both get into his car, heading to Oak Road.

The CCTV shows the car arriving at Oak Road at 12.11am and leave at 12.19am.

Libby Squire murder trial live: Defence gives closing statement
 
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How lying killer changed story four times after murder in the park

The murder of keeley bunker has some similarities to this case.

I know people have said PRs actions of roaming the street after are not typical of a 'guilty' person. Wesley streete joined in on the search for keeley Bunker with her family knowing full well he had murdered keeley. He also lied a number of times.
 
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How long do jurys retire for to consider a verdict usually? What sort of range are we looking at?
 
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Thanks so much @jamjim for your updates today.

Thoughts are very much with Libby’s lived ones, and also those 12 jurors who tomorrow will hopefully give her family the justice they deserve.
 
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How long do jurys retire for to consider a verdict usually? What sort of range are we looking at?
Literally as long as they need, from one minute to days... let’s hope it’s quick.
 
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Many thanks,Jamjim. It has not been a pleasant day's reading today.
 
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Let's hope MrJitty will be along shortly to give us his thoughts on the defence's closing speech!
 
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Thanks for the updates today @jamjim
 
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Thank you as always @jamjim A really difficult day to listen to.
 
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Does anyone else think this verdict will be made all the more difficult for the Jury in the fact that many of their friends, family and work colleagues will be familiar with this case and will know they are a juror on it. If they come out with a not guilty verdict there could be an outpouring of fury from the general public and even people closer to them as this is such an emotive case and Libby was such a lovely girl with her whole life ahead of her? They have a tremendous amount of pressure on them right now.
I don't think so. Juries are told they must not discuss the case outside of the court room with anyone apart from fellow jurors until it is over because only they have heard the evidence. So nothing should influence them.

It hadn't been a major news story for a while - it's two years since it happened - so it hadn't really been in the national press until the trial started. So perhaps less in the public consciousness than it was

It is being held outside Hull so those that know the most won't be on the jury.

He'll get a fair chance which is more than he gave Libby.
 
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How long do jurys retire for to consider a verdict usually? What sort of range are we looking at?

They will go out tomorrow - about midday would be my guess.
I expect them to give it a full day of deliberations, so maybe Friday PM for a verdict. Which, in that time frame, would certainly be a guilty verdict, either unanimous or majority ( if the option for majority has been given by that time ).

At a stretch, they may run over until Monday
 
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Thank you @jamjim . Horrid day.
 
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I don't think so. Juries are told they must not discuss the case outside of the court room with anyone apart from fellow jurors until it is over because only they have heard the evidence. So nothing should influence them.It hadn't been a major news story for a while - it's two years since it happened - so it hadn't really been in the national press until the trial started. So perhaps less in the public consciousness than it was
It is being held outside Hull so those that know the most won't be on the jury.
He'll get a fair chance which is more than he gave Libby.




Exactly this
 
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Thank you so much @jamjim . A very harrowing day.
 
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I completely understand why some think he's guilty of rape but not murder and it's a question that I've mulled over in my head.
But can I ask, why, if you think he's guilty of rape, did he go back to the park after 2.5 hours?
It's unusual for rapists to go back to the victim or back to the scene of the crime.
So maybe I have some kind of mental 'block' regarding reasons for this, but does anyone who believes he's innocent of murder have any theories as to why he went back?

BTW I think he's guilty on both counts.
JMO
 
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They will go out tomorrow - about midday would be my guess.
I expect them to give it a full day of deliberations, so maybe Friday PM for a verdict. Which, in that time frame, would certainly be a guilty verdict, either unanimous or majority ( if the option for majority has been given by that time ).
At a stretch, they may run over until Monday
I'll be surprised if it's as quick as that. I don't expect a unanimous verdict and I don't think the judge would agree to a majority verdict after just two days.
 
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Thank you jamjim for all your efforts yet again.
 
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