AZ Nancy Guthrie, 84, (mother of TODAY Show host Savannah Guthrie) missing - last seen in the Catalina foothills area on Jan 31, 2026

[Cedars]

It's interesting how the Sheriff described Nancy's pacemaker app disconnects from her phone at 2:28 a.m. He said "app" disconnects correct?

To disconnect a pacemaker app (such as Medtronic MyCareLink Heart, Abbott, or similar) from your phone, you should follow the specific unpairing procedures within the app to ensure data syncing stops properly. Because these apps are used for monitoring medical data, they often require deliberate steps to disconnect.

If someone deliberately disconnected her pacemaker app from her phone then someone had to have been accessing her phone to do that. No?

Most interpretations are that probably happened because she moved out of the phone's bluetooth receiver range, as she was taken away and the phone left behind.

eg:
"Epps emphasized that this disconnection is most likely not an indication that Guthrie’s heart stopped, but rather that she moved out of Bluetooth range from her phone, which was found at her residence."

Digital evidence playing key role in search for Nancy Guthrie

Investigators are now asking residents in the Catalina Foothills area to submit camera footage from Jan. 1 through Feb. 2.

www.kold.com

JMO

 

[shonyakay]

I don’t think the sheriff was ever implying the pacemaker to have been deliberately disconnected. It seems to have disconnected because she traveled too far from her phone for the signal to reach — if you’ve ever worn wireless headphones and walked away form your phone this has probably happened to you.

You are correct he didn't state someone deliberately disconnected it I am just interested in how he described it as the "app" disconnected.
It may be how you state that Nancy just traveled a certain amount of distance away from her phone.

When I looked into it, it said to disconnect a pacemaker app often requires deliberate steps to disconnect because it is a medical app.

 

[cady]

After just watching the Brian Entin update from yesterday, it was reported the driver of the RR is connected to the house that was raided. Watch the video that was posted by sdmike1974, extremely informative.

Yes. The long delay in movement was in waiting for RR driver to show up. jmo

 

[Sessiebo]

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. It’s not about being cool lol

But it adds nothing to this thread tho.
It's insensitive to make such a comment here where people are so invested in this case. JMO

 

[Muvvatrucka]

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. It’s not about being cool lol

It’s an expression. What you said is not victim friendly.
I’m just going to scroll past your future comments.

 

[Sadi]

Good morning,
I keep asking myself why was Nancy removed from her home? Why not just leave her there? Was it because she could identify the suspect(s)? This is what I think, but trying to understand what would be other reasons.

 

[EyeCandy]

so when exact time does anyone think the pic of him without the backpack is? Is it after he kidnapped her? Did she perhaps rip it off him and he went back thinking some of the stuff came out? I'm totally confused with the backpack on and backpack off. I know the cam disconnected at 1 47 .. and it seems the stills are 2 12 ... so what time is the still outside without the backpack. I still have not got that down

 

[Spectrix]

Does anyone else think that the lack of a recent press conference could potentially be hurting the investigation? I feel like clear and updated messaging from LE as to status and how public can best assist is needed. Also, a presser reaches different demographics who may be more watchers of cable news vs online.

As sleuthers we all would like regular updates, but as detectives, those from the Sheriff & FBI do not need to provide the public with anything. They ask for the public's help when they need it, and provide the bare minimum of information.

The Sheriff is not blessed with super public relations skills, and he receives so much hate after each press conference that he mostly stopped giving them.

They have asked the public for tips, and have reported receiving many thousands of tips. It was reported that 18,000 tips came in during the days following the release of the masked man CCTV.
Unfortunately, more than 99% of the tips lead nowhere - but they still have to check each and every one.

They have asked the public for camera footage - my understanding is that they're not receiving as much as they'd like, primarily because most of the houses in Nancy's area are some distance from the road and have vegetation blocking the view.

We all want to know what's going on, and the information vacuum is frustrating. But it is what it is.

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[Nikynoo]

Good morning,
I keep asking myself why was Nancy removed from her home? Why not just leave her there? Was it because she could identify the suspect(s)? This is what I think, but trying to understand what would be other reasons.

Brian Entin’s interview with retired FBI was interesting. Though he was not a profiler, he was of the opinion that the perpetrator had a history of burglaries and that they had escalated to kidnapping. Similar skill set apparently. Whether this is true or not, I do not know, but it was an interesting take on the situation. I would highly recommend posters listening to it.

 

[Spectrix]

so when exact time does anyone think the pic of him without the backpack is? Is it after he kidnapped her? Did she perhaps rip it off him and he went back thinking some of the stuff came out? I'm totally confused with the backpack on and backpack off. I know the cam disconnected at 1 47 .. and it seems the stills are 2 12 ... so what time is the still outside without the backpack. I still have not got that down

My understanding is that the still picture without the backpack was altered to remove the straps.
I'm not exactly sure why they did this. It may be that at the time of release they wanted the design of the jacket to be more obvious.
That image lead to a massive amount of confusion.

 

[TexLil]

Good morning,
I keep asking myself why was Nancy removed from her home? Why not just leave her there? Was it because she could identify the suspect(s)? This is what I think, but trying to understand what would be other reasons.

I think about this a lot too. 1) My first thought was that it was to take her to an atm to get money. I haven't heard anything about whether her accounts were accessed or not, but I'm assuming not or we probably would have heard something. Possibly this was the reason but something went wrong.

2) Then i thought the ransom bit was the reason. But if that was the case then why not show some proof of life and go after ransom immediately? I'm still thinking this is possibly the reason but not implemented as planned.

3) I also wondered if she was sadly murdered in her home and the perp knew who would likely be called to check on her in the morning and didn't want that person to have the trauma of finding her. Close insider.

4) Then there's a sick reasoning of someone who wanted time alone with her. But that's seems a low probability.

5) Also considered that taking Nancy was a payback for someone close to her having an unpaid debt of some sort. "If you don't pay up we'll take your mom/friend/etc." It's exceedingly cruel beyond measure to take her and leave the family in limbo as to where she is. Maybe that was the point.

Probably other options I'm missing. But I'm leaning toward #1 or #3.

MOO

 

[Nikynoo]

My understanding is that the still picture without the backpack was altered to remove the straps.
I'm not exactly sure why they did this. It may be that at the time of release they wanted the design of the jacket to be more obvious.
That image lead to a massive amount of confusion.

I don’t think this is correct. Could you point me to a source that verifies?

 

[TexLil]

If this is what happened, isn't it foolish of this guy to alert the door bell camera that he was on the premises while he is still trying to gain entry?

Perhaps he knew it wasn't monitored? MOO

 

[cady]

Good morning,
I keep asking myself why was Nancy removed from her home? Why not just leave her there? Was it because she could identify the suspect(s)? This is what I think, but trying to understand what would be other reasons.

I think it was their objective to remove her, which does indicate a kidnap for ransom motive but I suspect, sorry to say, that she succumbed to her shock, fear and medical issues shortly after they intruded. So, they dropped the ransom plan, and had to dispose of her. Then, other would-be ransomers jumped at the opportunity to make money out of the tragedy. JUST MY THOUGHTS

 

[RayVon]

I know that I am being redundant with this question, but has anyone indicated that Nancy Guthrie had a safe in her house or on her property?

 

[EyeCandy]

I don’t think this is correct. Could you point me to a source that verifies?

its all so confusing .. I wish the le would at least give an understanding of did he remove the backpack. I've been totally confused as to why he would remove it...unless it was after she was in a vehicle or was it again, before he even put the backpack on....casing the joint?? A better timeline from le would be helpful. Did he perhaps come back even later than the times they put out? where did the backpack go?

 

[RayVon]

its all so confusing .. I wish the le would at least give an understanding of did he remove the backpack. I've been totally confused as to why he would remove it...unless it was after she was in a vehicle or was it again, before he even put the backpack on....casing the joint?? A better timeline from le would be helpful. Did he perhaps come back even later than the times they put out? where did the backpack go?

My first impression was that it was two different people. MOO

 

[SUNchips]

My understanding is that the still picture without the backpack was altered to remove the straps.
I'm not exactly sure why they did this. It may be that at the time of release they wanted the design of the jacket to be more obvious.
That image lead to a massive amount of confusion.

Source?

 

[flakesofsnow]

someone pointed out that in the pic without backpack that the background is bright and suggested that perhaps it’s from a different day without moonlight

 

[Ellis' Mom]

This entire investigation seems to be so hapless. I can't imagine how frustrated Savannah must be. It feels to me like her sister and brother in law must have something to do with this, based partly on how they behaved immediately after it happened, and partly on his gambling debts, as well as him being the last one to see her alive. Does anyone know---are they staying nearby? I read that they left their house last week.

I don't recall seeing anything that confirmed SIL has gambling debt, would you please cite your source for that?