UK - Libby Squire, 21, last seen outside Welly club, Hull, 31 Jan 2019 *ARREST* #19

[Kaykedi]

I could lie I'm Russian or Slovak- I speak both those languages- but I didn't want to, I'm one of millions of people around the world who have interest in court trials and just by accident happened to be the same nationality what PR but I'm not here to fight for PR .
I thought my nationality isn't important but I knew my English isn't perfect so I mentioned that it isn't my first language to explain why my gramma is funny.
I don't know Polish people from Hull I don't know anybody from Hull tbf ;-)
My daughter is Libby age and she was studying in Liverpool when this crime happened so we both was shocked and we was fallowing news about her ( it could happened to my child too!) . I remember we quite often talked about Libby and other missing student Daniel Williams (found later dead in lake)-they both was missing more less the same time-but it wasn't Libby who brought me here but Grace as I said before me and my daughter fallowed her disappearance and we wanted know what happened to her .
My daughter found this forum and sent me link I registered to find more information ,she also send me link to this thread just when she found trial is going ahead
So please forget about my nationality
of course I accepted your apology ;-) and I hope we can have interesting conversation in future x
ps,I found PR wife is now in relationship with another Polish butcher and have child with him so it looks like his actions didn't ruin her trust in men ,I'm also wonder if she will take part of the trial ,we see

wilkeka
Your English IS perfect x

 

[jamjim]

14:39
Witness saw Libby shouting at a car: 'Don't leave me'
Mr Handisides says he saw “a girl at the bus stop” as he passed it. He says he then turned into the Endsleigh Centre to get home.

Mr Handisides said he crossed the road at the traffic lights, at around the point where Beverley Road and Haworth Street joined.

He says: “Initially, I could see vehicle headlights in Haworth Street, pointing into Beverley Road, maneuvering and then movement in the shadows to my left and I noticed a young girl on the ground, close to the bus stop.

“She was shouting towards the car, ‘Don’t leave me.’ I would say she was angry. It was more of a cross way rather than a pleading way.”

Mr Handisides said he carried on home and did not see Libby again.

Libby Squire murder and rape trial - flatmates describe final night

 

[bos]

I’m surprised at the limited press coverage, there’s usually a variety of sources.

 

[bos]

That sounds like she was shouting at the Renault that PR waited for to leave.

 

[JusticeDT]

I’m surprised at the limited press coverage, there’s usually a variety of sources.

Wonder if there are any restrictions on numbers because of lockdown?

 

[Kaykedi]

wilkeka
Your English IS perfect x

wilkela

 

[JusticeDT]

That sounds like she was shouting at the Renault that PR waited for to leave.

So far as I know she hadn't had any contact with the Renault driver so it seems more likely she was shouting to PR but I personally don't see how the defence can use it as surely it just helps show a lack of capacity to consent. However, if he has no defence they will try and clutch at any straw they can I guess

 

[Cherwell]

That sounds like she was shouting at the Renault that PR waited for to leave.

It must have been the car that was manoeuvring. I wonder if they tracked down the driver to see if they noticed her at all.

 

[jamjim]

14:50
Mr Handisides thought girl he saw was 'arguing with boyfriend'
He has added that he got the impression that “the girl was arguing with her boyfriend” and there was no direct plea for me to help

“From being a student myself I have plenty of female friends and have seen those kinds of interactions on nights out and although i didn’t see a boyfriend, the way she was saying it was similar to how I’d seen my friends interact with their boyfriends.”

He has added that he got the impression that “the girl was arguing with her boyfriend and there was no direct plea for me to help

“From being a student myself I have plenty of female friends and have seen those kinds of interactions on nights out and although i didn’t see a boyfriend, the way she was saying it was similar to how I’d seen my friends interact with their boyfriends.”

Libby Squire murder and rape trial - flatmates describe final night

 

[Vera_dci]

So far as I know she hadn't had any contact with the Renault driver so it seems more likely she was shouting to PR but I personally don't see how the defence can use it as surely it just helps show a lack of capacity to consent. However, if he has no defence they will try and clutch at any straw they can I guess

I wonder if she thought the car turning was the two men returning from darts

 

[jamjim]

14:51
Evidence from the woman who found Libby's watch the next day
Bridget Faulkener, a retired woman, said she left her home in the morning of February 1 to walk to a church on Cottingham Road.

She said she turned into Haworth Street and stepped from a path and onto the road.

Mrs Faulkener said she looked down onto the road and saw a watch “that looked to be broken. The wrist strap looked damaged. The watch was working.”

She said she was in a rush to get to church and put the watch into her handbag, before deciding to find the owner later.

Mrs Faulkener says she kept the watch for a few weeks or a month and “it wasn’t until I watched the news I saw about the Libby Squire case and given the proximity, I decided to take the watch to the police station.”

She says on March 21 she was shown a photograph of the watch and identified it as the one she found on Haworth Street.

Libby Squire murder and rape trial - flatmates describe final night

 

[JusticeDT]

I wonder if she thought it was the two men returning from darts

Yes she could have easily thought that. I just have a feeling PR manipulated her before that point at Endsleigh and by the time she shouted he may have let her believe she was in danger from someone else and he could help her.

 

[JusticeDT]

Sadly I think she wanted help but got frustrated when people didn't seem to be able to understand what she was saying like the darts chaps and then PR came and manipulated her into thinking he would get her home safely. Possibly he couldn't understand her address either but it didnt matter as he wasn't intending on taking her home.

 

[jamjim]

14:59
Jury handed the watch that was found
Agreed facts of the case are being read out by Richard Wright QC

Mr Wright says the watch was identified by Libby’s mum Lisa as belonging to Libby.

The jury is now being invited to touch the watch - with gloves on - and to fasten and unfasten it to show it is not damaged, so they can see how the clasp operates.

Libby Squire murder and rape trial - flatmates describe final night

 

[jamjim]

14:59
20 minute adjournment
The trial has now paused for a 20 minute adjournment.

Libby Squire murder and rape trial - flatmates describe final night

 

[Newthoughts]

14:59
Jury handed the watch that was found
Agreed facts of the case are being read out by Richard Wright QC

Mr Wright says the watch was identified by Libby’s mum Lisa as belonging to Libby.

The jury is now being invited to touch the watch - with gloves on - and to fasten and unfasten it to show it is not damaged, so they can see how the clasp operates.

Libby Squire murder and rape trial - flatmates describe final night

Interesting. The sort of clasp that could come undone if someone was holding your wrist tightly perhaps?

 

[HopeForGoodNews]

I thought this as well, just a pity that she didn't go into her house when she got dropped off as she must have still had her keys at that point. Also I am sure it said that one of the girls had remained at home so there would have been someone there to look after her as well.

If only they'd phoned their housemate to tell them she was on her way home and to meet her from the taxi.

All ifs and buts, but her friends did the sensible thing in ensuring she arrived back home. It's so sad that she actually arrived safely but ultimately ended up in the clutches of a monster

 

[JusticeDT]

Interesting. The sort of clasp that could come undone if someone was holding your wrist tightly perhaps?

I think I read it was a gold watch so may be a jewellery style bracelet watch

 

[Sera]

Interesting. The sort of clasp that could come undone if someone was holding your wrist tightly perhaps?

I watched the spider cam footage again earlier; I'd not watched it since 2019. It's strange watching it now, knowing that it's definitely PR and Libby getting in that car. There's a part of the footage where you can see someone standing on the passenger side of the car, they seem to move away from the car window towards the back of the car, then suddenly PR is opening the passenger door and Libby's getting into the car. I'm assuming that it was during this part of the footage where Libby's watch ended up on the floor - MOO, could be wrong but would make sense.

 

[jamjim]

15:19
Trial resumes
The trial has now resumed after a short adjournment.

Libby Squire murder and rape trial - flatmates describe final night