Found Deceased UK - Lindsay Birbeck, 47, Accrington, 12 Aug 2019 *Arrest* #3

[MusicalMonkey]

If the retrial does proceed on 15/6/2020,

The 'public gallery' is probably already full.

 

[Mumrahh]

I don't see how a "fair trial" is possible now really... People have made their minds up one way or another, most people know what shoddy evidence there was presented...
Regardless of what u think happened, everyone is entitled to a fair trail, which was happening... But the evidence was so weak...
Wonder if there is a problem with one of the "witnesses"... Not that they witnessed much really...

 

[Mommysleuth11]

I pop out for the morning and they discharge the so**ing jury.

Very curious as to what has happened. Does anyone know if the Asda CCTV still of Lyndsay was ever released publically. I saw a photo early in the trial that seemed somehow wrong and wondered if it was 'leaked' as i had never seen it before. Cant help thinking back to that now. Il sure its not that but am wondering.

 

[Mumrahh]

Question...

If one jury has been talking... Could they just remove that person and swap with another?

 

[Tortoise]

Question...

If one jury has been talking... Could they just remove that person and swap with another?

yes, they don't replace them though, they just have a reduced number.

 

[MajorHoople]

I don't see how a "fair trial" is possible now really... People have made their minds up one way or another, most people know what shoddy evidence there was presented...
Regardless of what u think happened, everyone is entitled to a fair trail, which was happening... But the evidence was so weak...
Wonder if there is a problem with one of the "witnesses"... Not that they witnessed much really...

Do they use a change of venue in the UK?

 

[MusicalMonkey]

Do they use a change of venue in the UK?

Maybe that was a Judge's request?

'I'm not going back to that God Damned Cursed DePreston'.

 

[Alyce]

Do they use a change of venue in the UK?

It can happen, but I've not seen one recently

 

[Mind your biscuits]

Found Deceased - UK - Libby Squire, 21, last seen outside Welly club, Hull, 31 Jan 2019 #17 *ARREST*

Come and check out the thread if you haven't already! Suspect was charged on separate offences and jailed for eight and half years, then not long after charged for the rape and murder of Libby.

As of yesterday there have been no pre trial hearings, one was supposed to be in March.

 

[Alyce]

duplicate

 

[Alyce]

Re fair trial - recent trial ( followed on here ) Emile Cilliers. Made several attempts to kill his wife - worst one being the sabotaged parachute. His first trial was a complete nightmare when the Jury went out. They were struggling to reach a verdict, then people were leaving the Jury, due to holidays and there were claims of bullying within the group. In the end they had only 9 left and told Judge they could not reach agreement, so a mistrial was declared.
But, a new trial was held, same venue, and second Jury reached a guilty verdict in short time.
So it can be done at the same venue with new jurors without the worry that everyone has heard of the case.

 

[MajorHoople]

Maybe that was a Judge's request?

'I'm not going back to that God Damned Cursed DePreston'.

Well, now I am confused. This is the closest I could find to what I think you may be talking about:

Depreston-Preston

But of course I could be wrong.

 

[Niner]

Question - will they have some kind of hearing before the trial starts on 6/15?

TIA!

 

[Mind your biscuits]

Locals, get your ears to the ground, reporting restrictions doesn't mean the family can't say why the trial was ended. Moo.

 

[Mumrahh]

Not sure if it would make a difference as people outside the UK know about it haha...
And I am sure the locals wud make sure any new area would know all about it haha, they took up residence in a fb group after people weren't happy the case being discussed in the local news fb group haha...
I am asking who I can haha... So far nadda....

I still struggle with the fact the body was in the cemetery all that time...
The place was searched while she was laid there...
The police attended twice to look at the bin, one time with a dog and she was still not found...
And how was the bin so clean after 5 days or body decomp?
Wouldn't there of been some kinda leakage... Unless he is hot at wrapping...

And once again... How the heck is there only dna on one glove

To many questions haha

 

[MusicalMonkey]

The left hand leg of the track closest to the pub would be my guess, concealment and not too many users/witnesses.

Is that a known walking path? Obviously I can't tell from a map or a computer generated 'off-road' one (Google Earth).

I just presumed the obvious marked one (the one that forks right and joins the car-park path) was the path a walker would take.

 

[PiggyStardust]

v) If the judge is satisfied that jury tampering has taken place, discharge the jury and continue the trial without a jury: s.46(3) Criminal Justice Act 2003, or discharge the jury and order that a new trial take place without a jury: s.46(5) Criminal Justice Act 2003.

Likely I think....
And another thing he is off the streets the now.

 

[jellymummy]

Locals, get your ears to the ground, reporting restrictions doesn't mean the family can't say why the trial was ended. Moo.

I know the reason from someone who attended today but not sure I can say on here?

 

[jellymummy]

I know the reason from someone who attended today but not sure I can say on here?

It is nothing to do with any member of the jury nor the defendant. I will wait for guidance around whether I can say it or not before I open my mouth any more! It’s not that exciting anyway.

 

[Skigh]

I know the reason from someone who attended today but not sure I can say on here?

Welcome to websleuths!
No,please do not say on here.