UK - Logan Mwangi, 5, found dead in Wales River, Bridgend, 31 July 2021 *arrests, inc. minor*

[masekwm]

Isn't the date just last known confirmed sighting to date body found?

 

[Tortoise]

The prosecutor told the court: 'There were three main injuries caused when Logan was alive and 24 hours before he was found dead.

Bridgend man charged with 'harrowing' murder of boy, 5, after he was put in river in 'cover-up' | Daily Mail Online

 

[Marg from Oz]

These two are more stupid than Scott and Sarah Walker. How did they think they would get away with it? MOO

 

[Cherwell]

Isn't the date just last known confirmed sighting to date body found?

Yes. The usual format is to give the day before the victim was last seen alive and the day after s/he was found dead. So the actual date is between those dates.
It is the most accurate way of expressing the date of a crime before more details are available.

 

[Alyce]

Poor Logan must have been in agony. How could his mum see her child beaten and badly injured and stay with the abuser and not seek medical help.. I wonder if the 13 year old also copied his dad and hurt Logan.

very possibly

 

[DC50]

The police weren't wrong when they called it harrowing.

As the mother to a young son myself I just can't comprehend how she did this.

With regards JC taking the heat for the 13 year old, I'd buy mum covering up for JC but why cover for a child who isn't hers? Not that anything is remotely understandable in cases like this. It's just all unfathomable.

 

[Ellmau]

OMG that poor little boy.

 

[altyg]

As a survivor of domestic violence, I escaped and relocated so thankfully nothing like this, I did wonder if the mother was coerced/gaslighted, maybe he hurt Logan and then told the mum that he'd say it was her, she was would go to jail, never see the baby, etc and she fearfully went along with it, but I can't come to terms with the dramatics, the shouting about the door being open, all to look like an abduction.
I'm surprised at the 13 year old being charged, surely, faced with the body of a little boy and your violent father telling you what to say, any 13 year old would have been in fear and gone along with it?
In court, the mother was quoted as saying "He's dead, he's dead" I wonder if that quote came from the 13 year olds statement?
I think all children from high school onwards should be taught about coercive control and domestic violence.

 

[Ironside]

I assumed this was a badly staged fake drowning but if the poor boy was found in a bin bag he was literally chucked away like rubbish. These do not appear to be very smart criminals.

 

[Rednaxela]

Wasn't it reported that LS was playing football in the garden with JC at some stage? Friday/Saturday?
Even with a broken collar bone, it's painful, but you're still pretty mobile depending on the break - I wonder whether this was an isolated attack - all injuries together or over the course of a few days - I'm sure PM will ascertain the timing of injuries.

JMO

Do we know that the reports of LS/JC playing football are from a credible source? Could this be part of the cover-up to obscure the date analysis? A kick around with broken bones sounds unlikely…

 

[tedtink]

Do we know that the reports of LS/JC playing football are from a credible source? Could this be part of the cover-up to obscure the date analysis? A kick around with broken bones sounds unlikely…

From the Guardian...........

Tributes to boy ‘who lit up world’ after arrests over death in Wales

"Friends said Logan had been on family trip to Blackpool this summer and had spent time in isolation because of a Covid scare. However, the day before the tragedy, Logan was seeing kicking a football around on a patch of grass near the river."

 

[Moll]

Thanks for the Guardian link, tedtink. It's a credible source in that I believe this was said by friends as reported, but it could still all be part of an attempted cover-up, or a mistake as to timing. It doesn't appear to say he was with JC.

 

[Mrs Marple]

I wonder if Logan being polite and kind also set him apart from the others given they were hardly model citizens with the fly tipping etc.

 

[tedtink]

Thanks for the Guardian link, tedtink. It's a credible source in that I believe this was said by friends as reported, but it could still all be part of an attempted cover-up, or a mistake as to timing. It doesn't appear to say he was with JC.

This is what the DM says.

"The day before the tragedy, Logan was said to have been seen kicking a football around with his stepfather on the patch of grass that separates their flat from the shallow river where he was found"

Pictured: Funny and polite' five-year-old boy found dead in river | Daily Mail Online.

My original point was to do with - if one of the injuries had been caused the day before, before the fatal injuries - We won't know this unless we find out at a later date. Or whether it was one single attack on LS that caused all the injuries.
For instance, my son suffered a broken collar bone at the age of 7 and due to the location of the break he was able to go to school and carry on with his normal activities, even though he was a little uncomfortable at the time.

 

[Marg from Oz]

Fly tipping. Is that dumping rubbish instead of disposing of it in a legal way? I have not heard those words before.

 

[Ellmau]

I wonder if Logan being polite and kind also set him apart from the others given they were hardly model citizens with the fly tipping etc.

Or scared to put a foot wrong?

 

[Ellmau]

Fly tipping. Is that dumping rubbish instead of disposing of it in a legal way? I have not heard those words before.

That's right. It's a criminal offence but hard to ID perpetrators.

 

[Justice1245]

I believe anybody can sit in the public gallery. However, things have changed with the pandemic, so I couldn’t say whether you will be able to or not.

It wont be a public gallery ,their closed when theres reporting restrictions when minors are on the same charges

 

[Ruthbullock]

I’m inclined to believe the attack happened sometime after Logan and JC were seen playing football. I can’t see Logan comfortably playing football with any of those injuries.

Unless the injuries were as a result
Of the football, but then you would think the neighbours would have heard something at that time if he had been injured. The upstairs flat must be able to give a pretty good timeline surely, even if it’s just banging etc.

 

[Dcflag]

I think the three main injuries (head, collar, liver) were done the day of his death. These are likely contributing factors to his death and I expect to see historical injuries either through pm or medical records .