UK - Logan Mwangi, 5, found dead in Wales River, Bridgend, 31 July 2021 *arrests, inc. minor*

[Cherwell]

Because everybody throws in a load of laundry when their 5 yr old child is missing.

IKWYM, but many people set their washing machine timer to wash at night when the electricity tariff is cheaper.

 

[cocomod]

^^bbm

Nor has the mother -- I believe she was advising/instructing the youth what to say during questioning. I think both planned to blame Cole. MOO

I don't think the youth was going to blame Cole and not her. He has no love for her given the other statements he has made. Just my very honest opinion. I think he would rather have teamed up with his dad Cole and blamed her. In my VHO, I think he has not been raised to control his temper or to be a kind person.

 

[cocomod]

There was an incident here in Utah last week. A 4 year old shot at police officers as they were arresting his father (because his father told him to!). All over a fast food order!!! Such a shame that kids at such a young age are taught to disrespect authority and not taught right from wrong. That story absolutely boggled my mind!

Utah Father Facing Charges After Allegedly Telling 4-Year-Old Child to Shoot at Police in McDonald's

 

[tedtink]

IKWYM, but many people set their washing machine timer to wash at night when the electricity tariff is cheaper.

Saving pennies whilst washing bloodied sheets.

 

[Seattle1]

Yes I know that, but the exchange I was referring to, was when JC and the youth were in the park with the Police, AW wasn't there.

Officer's interactions with defendants shown to court
Body-worn camera footage is played to the court of PC Ryan Matthews’ interactions with John Cole and the youth as they leave Pandy Park and walk back to 5 Lower Llansantffraid.

Here’s a transcript of the recording:

PC Matthews: Can you just come with me a minute? We need to get back to the house. My inspector there will speak to you.

Cole: What’s that trolley about mate? What’s that trolley about?

PC Matthews: What’s your name?

Cole: Jay.

PC Matthews: My name’s Ryan. What’s your partner’s name?

Cole: Angharad.

PC Matthews asks the youth what his name is and he replies.

Cole: Is he okay?

PC Matthews: I honestly don’t know.

Cole: Why is there an ambulance down there?

PC Matthews: We’ll talk to you at the house.

Youth: Is he okay?

Cole: I don’t know.

PC Matthews: We’ll bring [the inspector] over to you now.

Cole: What’s going on?

As they approach the house Williamson can be heard screaming in the background.

Williamson: Where is he? Jay, nobody is telling me anything.

Cole: I’ve just been dragged here by the police.

Respectfully, they were hoping to get away with murder during this dialogue OP quotes!

Cole did not confess to perverting the course of justice until well after his arrest and charges entered on 5 Aug 2021 when he was charged with both murder and PTCOJ.

We've long known that the accused were held and questioned in different police stations from the beginning. It was from last Tuesday's testimony that we learned AW was defending the youth as he was being arrested:

“When he [teen] is arrested Angharad Williamson can be heard to shout “You’ve done nothing wrong” which is at total odds with what she was to go on to say in interview and her defence at trial.”

UK - Logan Mwangi, 5, found dead in Wales River, Bridgend, 31 July 2021 *arrests, inc. minor*

Police officer describes finding boy's body 'submerged' in river

 

[tedtink]

Respectfully, they were hoping to get away with murder during this dialogue OP quotes!

Yes! That's what I said!
Never mind - moving on............

 

[Dotta]

Respectfully, they were hoping to get away with murder during this dialogue OP quotes!

Cole did not confess to perverting the course of justice until well after his arrest and charges entered on 5 Aug 2021 when he was charged with both murder and PTCOJ.

We've long known that the accused were held and questioned in different police stations from the beginning. It was from last Tuesday's testimony that we learned AW was defending the youth as he was being arrested:

“When he [teen] is arrested Angharad Williamson can be heard to shout “You’ve done nothing wrong” which is at total odds with what she was to go on to say in interview and her defence at trial.”

UK - Logan Mwangi, 5, found dead in Wales River, Bridgend, 31 July 2021 *arrests, inc. minor*

Police officer describes finding boy's body 'submerged' in river

Because she already accused an innocent woman as an abductor!

 

[katydid23]

IKWYM, but many people set their washing machine timer to wash at night when the electricity tariff is cheaper.

But there were bloody bed sheets in the washer. That means they had to throw that wash in AFTER the beating happened.

 

[Seattle1]

I don't think the youth was going to blame Cole and not her. He has no love for her given the other statements he has made. Just my very honest opinion. I think he would rather have teamed up with his dad Cole and blamed her. In my VHO, I think he has not been raised to control his temper or to be a kind person.

All we have is the court testimony where we learned that AW was supporting the teen and/or perhaps coaching him during the teen's arrest (albeit AW accused both the teen and Cole when she was detained and questioned).

“When he [teen] is arrested Angharad Williamson can be heard to shout “You’ve done nothing wrong” which is at total odds with what she was to go on to say in interview and her defence at trial.”

Police officer describes finding boy's body 'submerged' in river

^^rsbm

 

[katydid23]

All we have is the court testimony where we learned that AW was supporting the teen and/or perhaps coaching him during the teen's arrest (albeit AW accused both the teen and Cole when she was detained and questioned).

^^rsbm

I think that in this convoluted case, they are all three GUILTY of this crime. JMO

 

[Seattle1]

I think that in this convoluted case, they are all three GUILTY of this crime. JMO

Of course they are and why mom and the teen were later charged with murder just as Cole was.

 

[Dotta]

All we have is the court testimony where we learned that AW was supporting the teen and/or perhaps coaching him during the teen's arrest (albeit AW accused both the teen and Cole when she was detained and questioned).

^^rsbm

In my opinion, she wasnt supporting the teen, but warning him not to tell anything.
She had already had a scapegoat - an innocent woman.

But when this woman presented alibi, etc, this vile "mother" decided to sink her vile lover and vile youth.
But for me she is the vilest, b/c Logan was HER son!

 

[Cherwell]

But there were bloody bed sheets in the washer. That means they had to throw that wash in AFTER the beating happened.

Yes, I know that!
I was only making the point that doing laundry at night is common practice, as the PP seemed to think it was unusual.

 

[tedtink]

In my opinion, she wasnt supporting the teen, but warning him not to tell anything.
She had already had a scapegoat - an innocent woman.

But when this woman presented alibi, etc, this vile "mother" decided to sink her vile lover and vile youth.
But for me she is the vilest, b/c Logan was HER son!

IMO They'd ALL attacked LM at some stage - FWIW I think the youth hurt LM the most. AW found him dead and none of them knew which of the 56 injuries were the fatal ones, hence the pathetic initial cover up and not guilty plea's.
Then they started to blab & lie during questioning to save their own skins!

JMO

 

[Cherwell]

Saving pennies whilst washing bloodied sheets.

Well, that was a bonus! In this case it was obviously a matter of expediency.

 

[tedtink]

Well, that was a bonus! In this case it was obviously a matter of expediency.

Odd how they did an economy 7 on the sheet but dumped the pyjama top in the woods though.
Did they think Police wouldn't find the sheet - eejits.

 

[ChloLo]

You can’t wash out rips

 

[Dotta]

https://www-dailymail-co-uk.cdn.amp...i-dead-river-wearing-pyjamas-court-hears.html

Summary

 

[bos]

Presumably part of the reason for the earlier footage by the Prosecution is because the youth’s defence will use it to show that it’s credible that he thought they were fly-tipping.
It doesn’t strengthen the prosecution case but is less damaging than a defence narrative of them being selective with what they present

 

[Seattle1]

In my opinion, she wasnt supporting the teen, but warning him not to tell anything.
She had already had a scapegoat - an innocent woman.

But when this woman presented alibi, etc, this vile "mother" decided to sink her vile lover and vile youth.
But for me she is the vilest, b/c Logan was HER son!

Clearly, AW accused an innocent woman on 31 July 2021 while still at her home and Logan's body being recovered -- AW even gave investigators the woman's photograph. This is not to be confused with the date all three were taken into custody for questioning where the innocent party was no doubt already cleared.