GUILTY UK - Louise Smith, 16, Havant, Hampshire, 8 May 2020 *Arrest*

[Legally Bland]

18 minutes ago
Mays makes admissions


Mr Langdon said Mays admitted he said he walked Louise to Emsworth when ‘in fact he had not done so’.

The defence barrister also said Mays ‘accepts’ his DNA was found on a stick used to attack Louise and that Louise’s blood was found on his left trainer.

10 minutes ago
First prosecution witness


A friend of Louise, during his police interview played to the court, said he asked Louise to move in with him. ‘She’d had enough of the way Shane was speaking to her and the way he treated her,' he said.

 

[Stumpyaura]

There is absolutely no way he is getting off a murder charge. This is horrendous. It's no act of passion. Punching a young girl repeatedly in the face when you are a well built man, in a remote location that you have lured them to, you know the consequences.

 

[Skigh]

Sounds to me more as just transferred. Kicking wouldn't be bloodspots imo but patches? MOO

We must have cross posted .I have written something very similar!

 

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14 seconds ago
Louise’s boyfriend said she was ‘happy’ last time he saw her


Louise’s boyfriend said she was ‘happy’ and ‘perfectly normal’ when he last saw her.

‘When I left her she seemed happy,’ he said.

The pair kissed goodbye that evening - the last time they would see each other.

 

[Alyce]

As much as this seems like a clear case of murder, especially with the horrible way in which Louise died, I do not think him being accused of murder is such a given.
He has a strong defence team which are no doubt going to play up on his disabilities but I think more worse than that, they are totally going to try and throw Louise and CJ under the bus in some way. They will be going all out to bring it down to manslaughter. That's not a stretch as they just have to sow some doubts in a few of the jourers minds. I hope the jury sees through this.
Another concern is the crime scene pictures of Louise dead body being blanked out. Those pictures would be very impactful. Did the defence team request this or did the jury agree that they did not want to see the body? I doubt the judge would decide that issue. Does anyone know?

Another concern is the crime scene pictures of Louise dead body being blanked out. Those pictures would be very impactful. Did the defence team request this or did the jury agree that they did not want to see the body? I doubt the judge would decide that issue. Does anyone know

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[Bogyo13]

18 minutes ago
Mays makes admissions


Mr Langdon said Mays admitted he said he walked Louise to Emsworth when ‘in fact he had not done so’.

The defence barrister also said Mays ‘accepts’ his DNA was found on a stick used to attack Louise and that Louise’s blood was found on his left trainer.

10 minutes ago
First prosecution witness


A friend of Louise, during his police interview played to the court, said he asked Louise to move in with him. ‘She’d had enough of the way Shane was speaking to her and the way he treated her,' he said.

Stick? I assumed he used a stone. Depending on the thickness of the stick I guess but would not expect those head and face injuries from a stick? Moo

 

[elliefant]

Stick? I assumed he used a stone. Depending on the thickness of the stick I guess but would not expect those head and face injuries from a stick? Moo

Unfortunately I’m thinking the stick is connected to what they said about her being violently penetrated in a particularly nasty way, with a sexual motivation. Or words along those lines. It struck me that they said those words in particular rather than say she was raped.

Obviously I hope I’m wrong

 

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1 minute ago
Boyfriend unsure over Mays’ story


Louise’s boyfriend told police he was unsure over Mays’ account he walked her to Emsworth.

‘Louise didn’t know anyone in Emsworth,' he said.

‘It was unusual behaviour for Louise - she never used to go out.’

The boyfriend also said Louise was ‘always on her phone’ so it was strange her phone was suddenly off - especially as he was supposed to be meeting with her.

He added: ‘It didn’t fit together in my head.'

 

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12:16Michael Pearson
Prosecution evidence
Prosecutor Mr Newton-Price QC has continued to give the Crown's evidence this morning.

He told the court that DNA on the stick that used was to attack Louise was 38 million times more likely to have come from the defendant than someone else.

He also said that Louise’s blood was also found on Mays’ trainers.

Mr Newton-Price said:

“Her killer lured or persuaded her to walk to a remote location where he attacked her."

12:21Michael Pearson
Descriptions of injuries
NOTE - This contains some graphic content.

Prosecutor Mr Newton-Price told the court:

"We say you can conclude that this was an attack of unimaginable cruelty towards a vulnerable 16-year-old girl.

Spoiler: Graphic

"The shattering of the bones and the structure of her face including the complete detachment of her jaw bone indicated multiple blows to her head.

12:23Michael Pearson
Louise was 'fragile and vulnerable'
Prosecutor continued with his evidence

He said:

"There was background evidence that Louise was unhappy in the care of Shane Mays and his wife and she, an adolescent, was drinking heavily on the night before she disappeared.

"Louise was just 16, she was anxious, needy, fragile and vulnerable, vulnerable to the attentions of a predatory man who was apparently flirting with her and living in the same small flat.

"Shane Mays was the last person to see her alive, he was alone with her that afternoon.

12:29KEY EVENT
May admits causing the death
Andrew Langdon QC, representing Mays, said that the defendant admitted causing Louise’s death but he had “attacked” her after “losing control of his temper”.

He told the jury: “By his plea of manslaughter, Mr Mays accepts that on Friday 8th of May, having walked with Louise to Havant Thicket he attacked her.

“His case is he did so because of an argument which resulted in his losing control of his temper.

Live updates as Louise Smith murder trial continues into second day

 

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12:34Michael Pearson
Mays ‘repeatedly’ punched Louise
The defence continued to tell the jury that Mays accepts the punches would have ‘contributed’ to her death.

“He repeatedly punched her and he accepts that his attack on her would have caused or contributed to her subsequent death.”

Live updates as Louise Smith murder trial continues into second day

 

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6 minutes ago
Mays flirted with Louise


Louise told her boyfriend Mays would ‘flirt’ with her.

‘He would flirt with her, put his arm around her, tickle her and pin her down,’ the boyfriend told police.

Meanwhile Mays claimed Louise flirted with him.

Both denied there was flirting.

‘I didn’t believe it - I just brushed it off,' the boyfriend said.

 

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[Sorry if this is confusing, Hampshire Live seem to be about an hour behind Portsmouth News.]

12:37Michael Pearson
Mays says he did not set fire to her
Mr Langdon says Mays denies setting fire to the body.

Andrew Langdon QC said:

Spoiler: Graphic

“But he did not intend to kill her or to cause her really serious injury, he didn’t put the stick inside her and he didn’t set fire to her.”

Live updates as Louise Smith murder trial continues into second day

 

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1 minute ago
Louise critical of how Mays spoke to her


Louise’s boyfriend received a text from her saying Mays speaks 'like ****’ to her.

After Louise had gone missing Mays said she was ‘taking the ****’ after she asked him for £30 and he had walked her to Emsworth Skate Park, the boyfriend added.

 

[Alyce]

I think Hampshire Live just woke up

I'm out this afternoon but I can catch up and post the reports later Legally if no one else is able to

 

[Atoz]

The mystery to me is why she went with him that day. If she had issues with them to the point of looking elsewhere for somewhere else to live urgently, and was hung over and expecting her boyfriend over later that day. Why did she walk off alone with him and without telling anyone else where she was going. Even if they were going to smoke cannabis, surely she had the opportunity to do this elsewhere, although maybe lockdown had limited the opportunity

Could he have convinced her that she could find alternative accommodation at his mum's house perhaps?

 

[Legally Bland]

I think Hampshire Live just woke up

I'm out this afternoon but I can catch up and post the reports later Legally if no one else is able to

That'd be great. I'll be away for an hour or 2, so I may be able to do them before you're back. Hopefully most the time I'm away will be lunch break.

 

[Harchmare]

I think Hampshire Live just woke up

I'm out this afternoon but I can catch up and post the reports later Legally if no one else is able to

I'll post the updates Alyce.

 

[Legally Bland]

I'll post the updates Alyce.

That's great thanks.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

12:16Michael Pearson
Prosecution evidence
Prosecutor Mr Newton-Price QC has continued to give the Crown's evidence this morning.

He told the court that DNA on the stick that used was to attack Louise was 38 million times more likely to have come from the defendant than someone else.

He also said that Louise’s blood was also found on Mays’ trainers.

Mr Newton-Price said:

“Her killer lured or persuaded her to walk to a remote location where he attacked her."

12:21Michael Pearson
Descriptions of injuries
NOTE - This contains some graphic content.

Prosecutor Mr Newton-Price told the court:

"We say you can conclude that this was an attack of unimaginable cruelty towards a vulnerable 16-year-old girl.

Spoiler: Graphic

"The shattering of the bones and the structure of her face including the complete detachment of her jaw bone indicated multiple blows to her head.

12:23Michael Pearson
Louise was 'fragile and vulnerable'
Prosecutor continued with his evidence

He said:

"There was background evidence that Louise was unhappy in the care of Shane Mays and his wife and she, an adolescent, was drinking heavily on the night before she disappeared.

"Louise was just 16, she was anxious, needy, fragile and vulnerable, vulnerable to the attentions of a predatory man who was apparently flirting with her and living in the same small flat.

"Shane Mays was the last person to see her alive, he was alone with her that afternoon.

12:29KEY EVENT
May admits causing the death
Andrew Langdon QC, representing Mays, said that the defendant admitted causing Louise’s death but he had “attacked” her after “losing control of his temper”.

He told the jury: “By his plea of manslaughter, Mr Mays accepts that on Friday 8th of May, having walked with Louise to Havant Thicket he attacked her.

“His case is he did so because of an argument which resulted in his losing control of his temper.

Live updates as Louise Smith murder trial continues into second day

OMG, I’m sickened with revulsion toward this evil man.

I’m so sorry Louise. So very very sorry. Rest In Peace sweetheart.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

"Louise Smith was just 16."

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13230449/uncle-admits-killing-louise-smith-denies-body-burnt/