UK-Manchester, Attack on Synagogue

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  • #62
Manchester is my closest city, so this one stings a little.

I'm not religious at all, but I do believe that people have a right to practice their religion in safety. What a world we live in at the moment :(

It sounds like he intended to do much worse and I'm grateful for those that intervened and stopped him.

Agree.

As well as kill, wearing a fake suicide belt, the intention was to cause utmost terror in the community too imo.
 
  • #63
The Manchester synagogue terrorist was on police bail for an alleged rape when he carried out the attack, the Guardian can reveal.

Jihad al-Shamie, 35, was being investigated over the alleged sexual attack which is understood to have taken place earlier this year.

The Syrian-born attacker is also believed to have other criminal convictions, although he was not on the radar of counter-terrorism officers

:mad:



Manchester attacker’s father praised Oct 7 Hamas terrorists

Days after the terror group attacked Israel, Faraj Al-Shamie said ‘men like these prove they are Allah’s men on earth’
 
  • #64

Manchester attacker’s father praised Oct 7 Hamas terrorists

Days after the terror group attacked Israel, Faraj Al-Shamie said ‘men like these prove they are Allah’s men on earth’

This to me is demonic.

What a compounded tragedy that any victim was erroneously killed by the police.

The blood is still on the hands of the terrorist who precipitated this tragedy.
May he rot in hell.

My very strong opinion for his eternity.
 
  • #65
This is just awful and is getting worse and worse.
Manchester is my nearest city, I lived in the city centre in the 90s when there was only around 500 of us and the skyscrapers were a distant dream. We had the bomb that decimated the centre which I heard from my flat and the fear was visceral.
The arena bombing and now this … sadly there will be more.
I don’t care what the colour of your skin is or which faith you hold, who you sleep with or who you vote for - that’s your business, how you treat other people is all I am interested in.
Crumpsall has been such a diverse area for literally decades with all faiths living together so yesterdays attacks whilst utterly shocking are no real surprise.
The fear has been building for years and not just in the city centre. Out in Cheshire suburbs I regularly see specialist mobile police stations positioned so people can report hate crime in places you just would never expect to see them.
It’s out of control.
I am worried for tomorrow - if they allow marches they should hang their heads in shame.
 
  • #66
This is just awful and is getting worse and worse.
Manchester is my nearest city, I lived in the city centre in the 90s when there was only around 500 of us and the skyscrapers were a distant dream. We had the bomb that decimated the centre which I heard from my flat and the fear was visceral.
The arena bombing and now this … sadly there will be more.
I don’t care what the colour of your skin is or which faith you hold, who you sleep with or who you vote for - that’s your business, how you treat other people is all I am interested in.
Crumpsall has been such a diverse area for literally decades with all faiths living together so yesterdays attacks whilst utterly shocking are no real surprise.
The fear has been building for years and not just in the city centre. Out in Cheshire suburbs I regularly see specialist mobile police stations positioned so people can report hate crime in places you just would never expect to see them.
It’s out of control.
I am worried for tomorrow - if they allow marches they should hang their heads in shame.
It is unbelievable that the people marching have not cancelled.
 
  • #67
I think it’s reached the stage where we’re damned if we do (cancel them) and damned if we don’t.
I really don’t know the answer to what seems to be a very divided UK at the moment and don’t believe our so called leaders have the answer either.
Hate from all sides has been allowed to fester and it’s terribly worrying.
Jmo
 
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  • #68
The Manchester synagogue terrorist was on police bail for an alleged rape when he carried out the attack, the Guardian can reveal.

Jihad al-Shamie, 35, was being investigated over the alleged sexual attack which is understood to have taken place earlier this year.

The Syrian-born attacker is also believed to have other criminal convictions, although he was not on the radar of counter-terrorism officers

:mad:



Manchester attacker’s father praised Oct 7 Hamas terrorists

Days after the terror group attacked Israel, Faraj Al-Shamie said ‘men like these prove they are Allah’s men on earth’
As frequently happens, the mass murderer allegedly has a history of violence against women. Perhaps it should be among the flags for Prevent and counter terrorism :(
 
  • #69
This is just awful and is getting worse and worse.
Manchester is my nearest city, I lived in the city centre in the 90s when there was only around 500 of us and the skyscrapers were a distant dream. We had the bomb that decimated the centre which I heard from my flat and the fear was visceral.
The arena bombing and now this … sadly there will be more.
I don’t care what the colour of your skin is or which faith you hold, who you sleep with or who you vote for - that’s your business, how you treat other people is all I am interested in.
Crumpsall has been such a diverse area for literally decades with all faiths living together so yesterdays attacks whilst utterly shocking are no real surprise.
The fear has been building for years and not just in the city centre. Out in Cheshire suburbs I regularly see specialist mobile police stations positioned so people can report hate crime in places you just would never expect to see them.
It’s out of control.
I am worried for tomorrow - if they allow marches they should hang their heads in shame.
You might well have crossed paths with my parents there in the early 90s. My sister and her partner live there now, they both ended up getting sent home from work early yesterday because things were getting "a bit lively" in the city centre. Not sure exactly what was happening or if it's still going on, but it's a worry for sure
 
  • #70
As frequently happens, the mass murderer allegedly has a history of violence against women. Perhaps it should be among the flags for Prevent and counter terrorism :(
You're totally right, it does seem to be a very consistent characteristic among terrorists and mass killers
 
  • #71
rbbm
''On Thursday evening, Sky News, the Guardian and PA reported Al-Shamie was on police bail for an alleged rape when he carried out the terror attack.''
''The Guardian said al-Shamie was being investigated over the alleged sexual attack which is understood to have taken place earlier this year.
The paper said it is believed al-Shamie has other criminal convictions, although he was not on the radar of counter-terrorism officers.''
rbbm.
“One can find examples of expressed misogyny or domestic violence in the personal histories of nearly all the perpetrators of the worst terrorist incidents and mass killings” (Díaz & Valji, 2019). The link between intimate partner abuse (IPA) and violent extremism has become a central area of media and policy interest – sparked both by newly emerging extremes (e.g., Involuntary Celibates or ‘incels’ who mobilise around misogyny and narratives of men's sexual marginalisation) and high-profile attacks where the perpetrator had previously committed IPA''

'For instance, the locations of radicalisation to Islamic State differed for young men and women as men had access to more public spaces. Additionally, Islamic State used tactics that share characteristics with child sexual exploitation to ‘groom’ young men and women into the group.'

'KEY MESSAGES A growing body of research indicates that violent misogynistic attitudes and attitudes supporting VERLT strongly overlap1. More research is needed to examine the causality. Addressing violent misogyny’s links to VERLT is a significant, but overlooked and misunderstood, security concern for the OSCE and its participating States. At the individual level, violent misogyny can motivate men and women to participate in VERLT. At the group level, violent misogyny plays a role in the operation and ideology of violent extremist groups2.'
 

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