UK-Manchester, Attack on Synagogue

[astheworldfallsdown]

Jihad Al-Shamie: Who was the Manchester synagogue attacker?

Jihad Al-Shamie was a weightlifting enthusiast who rarely spoke to his neighbours, one resident said.

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[tedtink]

Manchester is my closest city, so this one stings a little.

I'm not religious at all, but I do believe that people have a right to practice their religion in safety. What a world we live in at the moment

It sounds like he intended to do much worse and I'm grateful for those that intervened and stopped him.

Agree.

As well as kill, wearing a fake suicide belt, the intention was to cause utmost terror in the community too imo.

 

[Sarahlou]

The Manchester synagogue terrorist was on police bail for an alleged rape when he carried out the attack, the Guardian can reveal.

Jihad al-Shamie, 35, was being investigated over the alleged sexual attack which is understood to have taken place earlier this year.

The Syrian-born attacker is also believed to have other criminal convictions, although he was not on the radar of counter-terrorism officers

Manchester synagogue terrorist was on bail for alleged rape

Exclusive: Jihad al-Shamie had been under investigation over alleged sexual attack earlier this year, sources say

www.theguardian.com

Manchester attacker’s father praised Oct 7 Hamas terrorists​

Days after the terror group attacked Israel, Faraj Al-Shamie said ‘men like these prove they are Allah’s men on earth’

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[Arkay]

Manchester attacker’s father praised Oct 7 Hamas terrorists​

Days after the terror group attacked Israel, Faraj Al-Shamie said ‘men like these prove they are Allah’s men on earth’

This to me is demonic.

What a compounded tragedy that any victim was erroneously killed by the police.

The blood is still on the hands of the terrorist who precipitated this tragedy.
May he rot in hell.

My very strong opinion for his eternity.

 

[Parker Knoll]

This is just awful and is getting worse and worse.
Manchester is my nearest city, I lived in the city centre in the 90s when there was only around 500 of us and the skyscrapers were a distant dream. We had the bomb that decimated the centre which I heard from my flat and the fear was visceral.
The arena bombing and now this … sadly there will be more.
I don’t care what the colour of your skin is or which faith you hold, who you sleep with or who you vote for - that’s your business, how you treat other people is all I am interested in.
Crumpsall has been such a diverse area for literally decades with all faiths living together so yesterdays attacks whilst utterly shocking are no real surprise.
The fear has been building for years and not just in the city centre. Out in Cheshire suburbs I regularly see specialist mobile police stations positioned so people can report hate crime in places you just would never expect to see them.
It’s out of control.
I am worried for tomorrow - if they allow marches they should hang their heads in shame.

 

[Skigh]

This is just awful and is getting worse and worse.
Manchester is my nearest city, I lived in the city centre in the 90s when there was only around 500 of us and the skyscrapers were a distant dream. We had the bomb that decimated the centre which I heard from my flat and the fear was visceral.
The arena bombing and now this … sadly there will be more.
I don’t care what the colour of your skin is or which faith you hold, who you sleep with or who you vote for - that’s your business, how you treat other people is all I am interested in.
Crumpsall has been such a diverse area for literally decades with all faiths living together so yesterdays attacks whilst utterly shocking are no real surprise.
The fear has been building for years and not just in the city centre. Out in Cheshire suburbs I regularly see specialist mobile police stations positioned so people can report hate crime in places you just would never expect to see them.
It’s out of control.
I am worried for tomorrow - if they allow marches they should hang their heads in shame.

It is unbelievable that the people marching have not cancelled.

 

[tedtink]

I think it’s reached the stage where we’re damned if we do (cancel them) and damned if we don’t.
I really don’t know the answer to what seems to be a very divided UK at the moment and don’t believe our so called leaders have the answer either.
Hate has been allowed to fester and it’s terribly worrying.
Jmo

 

[rsteen]

The Manchester synagogue terrorist was on police bail for an alleged rape when he carried out the attack, the Guardian can reveal.

Jihad al-Shamie, 35, was being investigated over the alleged sexual attack which is understood to have taken place earlier this year.

The Syrian-born attacker is also believed to have other criminal convictions, although he was not on the radar of counter-terrorism officers

Manchester synagogue terrorist was on bail for alleged rape

Exclusive: Jihad al-Shamie had been under investigation over alleged sexual attack earlier this year, sources say

www.theguardian.com

Manchester attacker’s father praised Oct 7 Hamas terrorists​

Days after the terror group attacked Israel, Faraj Al-Shamie said ‘men like these prove they are Allah’s men on earth’

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As frequently happens, the mass murderer allegedly has a history of violence against women. Perhaps it should be among the flags for Prevent and counter terrorism

 

[Serononin]

This is just awful and is getting worse and worse.
Manchester is my nearest city, I lived in the city centre in the 90s when there was only around 500 of us and the skyscrapers were a distant dream. We had the bomb that decimated the centre which I heard from my flat and the fear was visceral.
The arena bombing and now this … sadly there will be more.
I don’t care what the colour of your skin is or which faith you hold, who you sleep with or who you vote for - that’s your business, how you treat other people is all I am interested in.
Crumpsall has been such a diverse area for literally decades with all faiths living together so yesterdays attacks whilst utterly shocking are no real surprise.
The fear has been building for years and not just in the city centre. Out in Cheshire suburbs I regularly see specialist mobile police stations positioned so people can report hate crime in places you just would never expect to see them.
It’s out of control.
I am worried for tomorrow - if they allow marches they should hang their heads in shame.

You might well have crossed paths with my parents there in the early 90s. My sister and her partner live there now, they both ended up getting sent home from work early yesterday because things were getting "a bit lively" in the city centre. Not sure exactly what was happening or if it's still going on, but it's a worry for sure

 

[Serononin]

As frequently happens, the mass murderer allegedly has a history of violence against women. Perhaps it should be among the flags for Prevent and counter terrorism

You're totally right, it does seem to be a very consistent characteristic among terrorists and mass killers

 

[dotr]

rbbm

Manchester synagogue terrorist 'on bail for rape' at time of attack

THE terrorist who carried out the Manchester synagogue attack was on police bail for an alleged rape, it has been reported.

uk.news.yahoo.com

''On Thursday evening, Sky News, the Guardian and PA reported Al-Shamie was on police bail for an alleged rape when he carried out the terror attack.''
''The Guardian said al-Shamie was being investigated over the alleged sexual attack which is understood to have taken place earlier this year.
The paper said it is believed al-Shamie has other criminal convictions, although he was not on the radar of counter-terrorism officers.''
rbbm.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1359178925000242

“One can find examples of expressed misogyny or domestic violence in the personal histories of nearly all the perpetrators of the worst terrorist incidents and mass killings” (Díaz & Valji, 2019). The link between intimate partner abuse (IPA) and violent extremism has become a central area of media and policy interest – sparked both by newly emerging extremes (e.g., Involuntary Celibates or ‘incels’ who mobilise around misogyny and narratives of men's sexual marginalisation) and high-profile attacks where the perpetrator had previously committed IPA''

'For instance, the locations of radicalisation to Islamic State differed for young men and women as men had access to more public spaces. Additionally, Islamic State used tactics that share characteristics with child sexual exploitation to ‘groom’ young men and women into the group.'

https://www.osce.org/files/f/documents/d/c/525297.pdf

'KEY MESSAGES A growing body of research indicates that violent misogynistic attitudes and attitudes supporting VERLT strongly overlap1. More research is needed to examine the causality. Addressing violent misogyny’s links to VERLT is a significant, but overlooked and misunderstood, security concern for the OSCE and its participating States. At the individual level, violent misogyny can motivate men and women to participate in VERLT. At the group level, violent misogyny plays a role in the operation and ideology of violent extremist groups2.'

 

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[Inthedetails]

It is unbelievable that the people marching have not cancelled.

I've fallen behind - can someone tell me what the march is about?

tia

 

[dotr]

I've fallen behind - can someone tell me what the march is about?

tia

rbbm.

Mahmood: Pro-Palestinian protests 'un-British' after terror attack

The home secretary told BBC Breakfast she was disappointed pro-Palestinian protests went ahead.

www.bbc.com

'The home secretary has said she was "disappointed" pro-Palestinian protests went ahead on Thursday in the aftermath of the synagogue attack in which two men were killed.

Shabana Mahmood also called for demonstrators to "step back" from plans to hold marches this weekend, saying: "I do think that carrying on in this way does feel un-British, it feels wrong."

''Met Police Commissioner Mark Rowley said pro-Palestinian protests "within hours" of the synagogue attack "will likely create further tensions and some might say lacks sensitivity".
But the group, which has led demonstrations against the ban on Palestine Action, said it planned to go ahead with the march.''

''The government proscribed Palestine Action under anti-terrorism legislation in July. At various protests since then, hundreds have been arrested for showing support for the group, which has won permission to challenge the ban.''

 

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I really hope they don't face charges. The police acted quickly and proportionately to the risk posed at the time. If they'd hesitated the guy could have blown everyone up, they weren't to know the bomb was fake. In my opinion it was a tragic accident and I would imagine the armed officer was devastated when they discovered what had happened.

 

[Parker Knoll]

If I were a firearms officer and they charged this officer I would put down my weapon and never pick it up again.
Did they learn NOTHING from the Kaba case ?

 

[tedtink]

dbm

 

[Skigh]

Police arrest three more people on suspicion of terror offences

Three more people have been arrested on suspicion of terror offences in connection with the Manchester synagogue attack.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Three more people have been arrested on suspicion of terror offences in connection with the Manchester synagogue attack that left two people dead.

In an update this evening, detectives also revealed that the terror suspect was seen acting suspiciously near the synagogue 15 minutes before the attack.

This is a breaking news story - more to follow

 

[astheworldfallsdown]

I saw evil as attacker tried to barge into Manchester synagogue, rabbi says

Rabbi Daniel Walker tells the BBC how he held the doors of his synagogue shut as the attacker "body charged" them as he tried to get inside.

www.bbc.co.uk

Rabbi Daniel Walker said he and others held the doors of Heaton Park synagogue as Jihad Al-Shamie was "body-charging the doors, throwing heavy plant pots, doing whatever he could to get in".