Found Deceased UK - Nicola Bulley Last Seen Walking Dog Near River - St Michaels on Wyre (Lancashire) #10

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  • #501
My heat goes out to Paul, I can’t begin to imagine the hell he’s in.
 
  • #502
Are you watching the Channel 5 program? Who left the bunch of flowers on the Bench? Is that not a little odd in a "Missing Person"?
If it was an anniversary maybe, but while they are still looking and there is still a chance she went off of her own volition? I find that odd?
 
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  • #504
Are you watching the Channel 5 program? Who left the bunch of flowers on the Bench? Is that not a little odd in a "Missing Person"?
If it was an anniversary maybe, but while they are still looking and there is still a chance she went off of her own volition? I find that odd?
With some of the things that have been going on in terms of people turning up, ghost hunters, the works... I don't see much in it tbh. Just bad taste.

JMO
 
  • #505
Are you watching the Channel 5 program? Who left the bunch of flowers on the Bench? Is that not a little odd in a "Missing Person"?
If it was an anniversary maybe, but while they are still looking and there is still a chance she went off of her own volition? I find that odd?
People are odd.
 
  • #506
I don’t know why the police keep saying there’s “no evidence that anything untoward has happened” - NB is missing and there’s not a shred of evidence she went in the water - so yes there’s strong evidence something very untoward has happened.
 
  • #507
Are we allowed to discuss this channel 5 programme that’s being aired as we speak?
 
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  • #509
Yes do you mean whilst she was listening to meeting, sitting on bench facing river?
Precisely. It's just another piece of information that's creating the bigger picture. She falls into the river right where she was actually sitting listening to a call, resting a little after a hectic morning? People are more likely to fall unintentionally when they are walking/running rather than staying in one place.

And for a perpetrator this is a very opportune time, if not the only time available.
 
  • #510
I don’t know why the police keep saying there’s “no evidence that anything untoward has happened” - NB is missing and there’s not a shred of evidence she went in the water - so yes there’s strong evidence something very untoward has happened.
But not necessarily criminal
 
  • #511
Do you not think she would have taken her phone with her whilst chasing after her dog? It would seem a rationale thing to do.
I have on many occasions chased my dogs who are spaniels and enjoy chasing certain birds/ rabbits etc. I’ve never left a phone behind. A phone tends to go with you no matter what. I can see a situation in which a phone is next to you on a bench, on loudspeaker, and something unusual happens… you jump up and react. But spaniels are always on the move, always sniffing around and I don’t think the dog would be the cause of her leaving the phone.
 
  • #512
Please bear in mind that this is The Sun and await confirmation..

Snipped for clarity :
The girls were having their breakfast and everything was pretty much ready to go. I came down, Nikki went upstairs to get ready.

"The routine is basically if Nikki is taking the girls and Willow, when I hear her come down, I'll get them in the car.


I thought the CCTV showed NB putting willow in the car?? JMO.

ETA - before anyone jumps on my post I’m NOT insinuating anything.
 
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  • #513
It just doesnt sit well with me when they start slagging off the police. This investigator especially should know they have more info than we and them are privy to. I dont get it.
 
  • #514
Do you not think she would have taken her phone with her whilst chasing after her dog? It would seem a rationale thing to do.
I wouldn’t if I thought I’d only be a minute. Carrying it hand would mean one hand not free and putting in pocket could log you out of the call accidentally. Wouldn’t be surprised if left dog other side of gate for something quickly that the dog would be a pain in the backside around - like someone said if it was a stray chicken or something that the dog would chase/injure? Or she didn’t want the dog under her feet? Or the dog could be potentially injured - I can’t think what
MOO/JMO
 
  • #515
Snipped for clarity :
The girls were having their breakfast and everything was pretty much ready to go. I came down, Nikki went upstairs to get ready.

"The routine is basically if Nikki is taking the girls and Willow, when I hear her come down, I'll get them in the car.


I thought the CCTV showed NB putting willow in the car?? JMO.
Was that CCTV recorded at their home?
 
  • #516
The Strava app is interesting.

NB’s account has a long history of activity on the same route. It’s very clear, and with photos.

The map that underlies the route seems to be an application labelled Mapbox that shows hundreds of qps tracking traces from presumably many people over time in that geographical setting. A handful of traces go into the river from the bench location.

Is this the sort of information that can be gathered as background traces from digital devices and which might inform the police in a more detailed way, and which might be relevant to their understanding of this case.

I’m no expert, but the Strava account shows it clearly.
The Strava app is interesting.

NB’s account has a long history of activity on the same route. It’s very clear, and with photos.

The map that underlies the route seems to be an application labelled Mapbox that shows hundreds of qps tracking traces from presumably many people over time in that geographical setting. A handful of traces go into the river from the bench location.

Is this the sort of information that can be gathered as background traces from digital devices and which might inform the police in a more detailed way, and which might be relevant to their understanding of this case.

I’m no expert, but the Strava account shows it clearly.

Here’s the Screen Grab from Mapbox mapping in Strava that shows historic background gps traces at the bench location.
 

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  • #517
Snipped for clarity :
The girls were having their breakfast and everything was pretty much ready to go. I came down, Nikki went upstairs to get ready.

"The routine is basically if Nikki is taking the girls and Willow, when I hear her come down, I'll get them in the car.


I thought the CCTV showed NB putting willow in the car?? JMO.
He's saying things were a bit different that morning.
"I came down and a lot of stuff was already done. "


 
  • #518
I am confused as I thought he was meant to have gone somewhere that morning and done his own search?
 
  • #519
I still think it's odd that the police claim to be "open minded" yet seem to be apparently narrow minded enough to plow every effort into their river theory instead of, as the former police detective on C5 just said, getting "boots on the ground". What exactly do they know that they haven't revealed yet to support the river theory? To be so sure Nicola went into the water surely they wouldn't need dashcam footage, or indeed an open mind
 
  • #520
I wouldn’t if I thought I’d only be a minute. Carrying it hand would mean one hand not free and putting in pocket could log you out of the call accidentally. Wouldn’t be surprised if left dog other side of gate for something quickly that the dog would be a pain in the backside around - like someone said if it was a stray chicken or something that the dog would chase/injure? Or she didn’t want the dog under her feet? Or the dog could be potentially injured - I can’t think what
MOO/JMO
That is a fair possibility, I agree. The reason she would have stood up will likely be related to the dog.
 
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