Found Deceased UK - Nicola Bulley Last Seen Walking Dog Near River - St Michaels on Wyre (Lancashire) #11

[Just-a-random-girl]

Only 1 entry/exit point not covered by CCTV, so yeah that would be VERY lucky if she wasn't concerned.

I imagine LE have covered Nicola's movements, not just from that day, but at the very least from the night before. They'll know exactly where she was, with whom and when.

My theory is, as I've previously posted, that she is in the river. But as she hasn't been found in the river, yet, I'm thinking of every possible scenario that police would need to rule out in order to convince the public she went in the river.

We can imagine LE have everything covered...but she's still missing.

 

[Just-a-random-girl]

There is absolutely no evidence or even hint of anything of the sort in this case.
To pursue it is bordering victim blaming.

No it isn't "victim blaming". My theory is she went in the river. Every other scenario has to be ruled out.

By the way, my grandmother left her kids and there were media appeals (she was found alive several years later)...it happens.

 

[Officer Dibble]

it's been reported multiple times according to The Sun, The Times and according to LancsPolice themselves.

As per Supt Riley when discussing their workload - at the last presser - and how many calls and reports they've had, I personally wouldn't re-report a sighting that's already been reported multiple times. ( If that's what you meant)

I'm referring to the google maps sighting not the in-person sighting. Not sure which sighting you are referring to.

 

[Allabouttrial]

My theory is, as I've previously posted, that she is in the river. But as she hasn't been found in the river, yet, I'm thinking of every possible scenario that police would need to rule out in order to convince the public she went in the river.

We can imagine LE have everything covered...but she's still missing.

I get it, but scenarios built within the facts we have is usually the best way to go. Otherwise, we're no better than all the conspiracy theorists out there.

 

[Just-a-random-girl]

I get it, but scenarios built within the facts we have is usually the best way to go. Otherwise, we're no better than all the conspiracy theorists out there.

I am working in the facts we have...she had a meeting the night before, it's a fact. How on earth does any sleuthing go on if people don't put their mind to it? You can't say "it's impossible she left" and then say it's a "conspiracy theory" when someone provides an example on how it would be FEASIBLE. I am not saying that is what she did, but that it is a feasible scenario. It wouldn't be magic, it would be possible. Again, for the last time, I believe she went in the river.

 

[Springplease]

A warm welcome to you.

Thankyou

 

[Cedars]

... I'm thinking of every possible scenario that police would need to rule out in order to convince the public she went in the river.

We can imagine LE have everything covered...but she's still missing.

I'm confused. Why do LE need to convince the public she went in the river? That's not what happens in missing persons cases. If they have no further leads to follow up on, the case is simply unresolved. Hopefully, something comes up, at some time, to give LE new evidence.

Nobody likes that result, but it's what people often have to reconcile themselves to.

JMO

 

[Badgerette]

DBM.

 

[Allabouttrial]

I am working in the facts we have...she had a meeting the night before, it's a fact. How on earth does any sleuthing go on if people don't put their mind to it? You can't say "it's impossible she left" and then say it's a "conspiracy theory" when someone provides an example on how it would be FEASIBLE. I am not saying that is what she did, but that it is a feasible scenario. It wouldn't be magic, it would be possible. Again, for the last time, I believe she went in the river.

I really don't want to argue. I'm basing my replies on your original statement (bolded by me):

I've just thought of a completely new scenario...

NB would have had the chance to visit the River Wyre area after the meeting with her boss in Garstang the night before.

If we consider the possibility of a planned exit...what if she stashed a bag, change of clothes and bike somewhere near the riverbank for the morning the previous evening? (She could've bought a bike secondhand in a shop, online or gumtree with cash, for example). Nobody would be looking for a woman on a bike.

IMO to rule out planned exit, police should also be checking CCTV the previous day/evening...

If the police had found evidence of a planned exit, in the way you described, then I imagine they wouldn't still be holding on to their strong belief that she went in the river.

I'm still slightly open minded and walking off, although doubtful, with the info. we have could still be an option, but the bike theory seems like a non starter for the reasons I've stated above.

 

[cottonweaver]

new link

am pasting this part cause have never noticed an RNLI person comment on the case yet
( RNLI volunteers have been assisting with the search since the outset)


A former RNLI lifeboat commander, with vast experience of search-and-rescue operations, told The Mail on Sunday that Nicola’s body could still be in the river. ‘There are many reasons why the body could snag – it could get caught in an eddy and be held for hours for instance.

‘For this reason it is very difficult to estimate how long it would take to reach open sea. The activity we are seeing at the mouth of the river is known as “goalkeeping”. A team will deploy at a point at which it is thought the body has not yet reached and wait for it to appear. But there is so much uncertainty in something like this and the body could already have been missed.’

He added: ‘I know the authorities are doing everything they can but if the body is already at sea it might not be found for weeks or months. Or, quite frankly, it might never be found.’ In the absence of conclusive proof, or indeed any evidence, family and friends cling to hope that she will be found alive.

Bring Nikki Home: Friends launch 'final push' to find her

Nicola Bulley, 45, vanished while out walking her springer spaniel Willow along the River Wyre in Lancashire just over two weeks ago.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Colorado303]

The 'voluntarily disappeared' scenario is completely absurd. It doesn't work on any level; she's abandoned her entire family, who by now assume she's dead, she's got the police dredging rivers for her body, she wouldn't be able to use any forms of identification or payment without being tracked, and her face is on the front of every newspaper and website in the country. Were that not enough, we've heard nothing suspicious in terms of financial activity, suggesting NB would have no way of supporting herself independently.

Women don't abandon their young kids and just vanish into thin air, and as there's been no form of ransom note or contact then I think we can rule that out as well.

NB is most probably somewhere in the Wyre river or estuary, or - worst case scenario - has been dumped or buried elsewhere.

You’re right. Of course not. Except when they do. Take Sherri Papini for example. Disappeared in thin air, and after a long frantic search reappearred all scratched up w/tale of being kidnapped by two women, Faked the whole thing and was holed up w/an old boyfriend the whole time.

I don’t think this is whst happened w/Nicola, but if anyone had correctly hypothesized what had actually happened with Papini it would have seemed equally absurd.

Sometimes the absurd happens. Maybe this is one of those cases. Probably not, but if f it is we won’t know until we know.

ETA Link: California woman who faked her own kidnapping sentenced to 18 months in prison

 

[DancingMuse]

My theory is, as I've previously posted, that she is in the river. But as she hasn't been found in the river, yet, I'm thinking of every possible scenario that police would need to rule out in order to convince the public she went in the river.

We can imagine LE have everything covered...but she's still missing.

Good point Just-a-random-girl:
"We can imagine LE have everything covered."

I'm sure they do.

They know WAY WAY WAY WAY more than us at this point. LE/LancashirePolice knows everything for those involved that could be pertinent to this disappearance (whether an Abduction, ..... or fill-in-the-blank..., etc.):

Such as,
1. Financials (like, Debts? Any large bank withdrawals, in the last 6 months? Travel arrangements made? etc.)

2. Other Cellphones in the vicinity of the disappearance? And whether there were Burner Cellphones in the vicinity of the disappearance?

3. Past Legal Issues? Lawsuits? etc.

The list is endless. And probably very personal. But I have total trust in the Lancashire Police. They have been extraordinary so far. And totally professional. It will continue until they have answers.

If NB is (hopefully) still among the living, then I know that LE/LP are doing their best to bring her home.

MOO.
(spelling)

 

[Officer Dibble]

Re-reading the thread, if the harness was found midway down the bank as suggested, that makes is strongly likely that NB was nearer the river edge, IF there is a deep hole underwater then could it be possible that by sheer incredibly bad luck she fell straight down that hole (if as suggested it's about 20 ft deep she'd surely have died and if it was narrow maybe her body is stuck in the hole)

It does feel like the police divers would have found her though?

Do you have a source for this alleged deep hole?

 

[cottonweaver]

I'm referring to the google maps sighting not the in-person sighting. Not sure which sighting you are referring to.

Okay, sorry, thought you meant the witnesses

Yes I suppose it's possible that LE might not have noticed the witness's sighting of the red van parked near a barn might be linked to the google maps record of a red vehicle behind that barn on google maps.

 

[Auntie Cipation]

Women do abandon their young kids and vanish into thin air. My own grandmother did it.

I do think that until the 1970s or 1980s, divorce was in some circles considered sufficiently shameful that it affected some women's choices to just disappear.

I think that is much less a factor these days. Plus the ease of modern instant communication to be able to tell LE one is safe/alive without location information getting back to the abandoned spouse.

It does still happen but vanishing rarely these days IMO.

 

[acutename]

I do think that until the 1970s or 1980s, divorce was in some circles considered sufficiently shameful that it affected some women's choices to just disappear.

I think that is much less a factor these days. Plus the ease of modern instant
It does still happen but vanishing rarely these days IMO.

well, there was no marriage so need of a divorce

Partner of Nicola Bulley insists 'she is going to come home'​

https://www.dailymail.co.uk › news › article-11737763


1 day ago — Mr Ansell told journalist Dan Walker they had spoken about marriage 'many times before' but put plans on hold when they had their two daughters.


If you read NB's Facebook, she seems happy and it is all about her children IMO- not a hint of unhappiness, IMO

 

[SuperEye]

I have been thinking a lot about the water bottle. IMO it would be easy to silently incapacitate someone with a sedative then carry them somewhere temporarily out of sight MOO.

 

[Springplease]

Welcome.
It's mentioned in here Lancashire Constabulary - Missing Nicola Bulley - latest update

What do you think of the church sighting? Church isn't far and the grounds also overlook the river. It's just past this road sign.

Mentioned in the Sun's latest link:
'A witness came forward after spotting the pair outside the local church.' Two 'suspicious' men spotted by witness near Nicola Bulley's dog-walking route

Is that another path at the Inskip sign too? Google Maps




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Thankyou I hadn’t seen that. Yes that does look like a path by the Inskip sign looking on satellite view you can see a path on the other side of the river.
Re. The two men at the church they could be strangers working out if there was a place where Nicola could be dragged quickly from the road but decided it wasn’t practical because of Willow.

 

[Springplease]

I had a family member commit suicide by drowning and he took his dog with him but he tied the dog to a tree.

 

[acutename]

the fishing swim known as Deep hole is the one by the bench?

not the OP but:

"The representative from St Michael's Angling Association told the Times: "The combination of the depth and how cold it is at this time of year makes it very dangerous."

Stretch of river where mum Nicola Bulley disappeared is 'notoriously d

The river's depth and temperature at this time of year make it "very dangerous", a local angling association has said.

www.express.co.uk