Found Deceased UK - Nicola Bulley Last Seen Walking Dog Near River - St Michaels on Wyre (Lancashire) #11

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  • #381
This deep hole theory makes everything make sense to me. Is there any more info on it?
 
  • #382
intriguing

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A garage worker, who asked not to be named, said: “Two smartly dressed officers came in following up, a man and a woman.

“They wanted the CCTV from the day before Nicola vanished and to take statements of any activity we had seen from that day.'
A witness saw two fishermen in the area on the day before and on the day NB went missing. They mentioned it on here.
 
  • #383
True, but there was a half-hour meeting scheduled and she may have been required to participate. Plus NB being seen by other people, and alone, doesn't seem to indicate a physical meeting with someone.
She was not. Her phone was muted and she could hear the Teams call but was lsitening, not participating. This is what mostly happens on horrendous Teams calls. You have to listen, but it's dull as. As I pointed out earlier, you can still message-chat silently both publicly and privately to others on the call. It's there she could have potentially arranged to meet someone, either suddenly or in a way that was foreseen. Either way, something has either gone wrong, someone has done her harm, or else she's had an accident. And I think it didn't happen anywhere near the bench.
 
  • #384
Hired to do what? By whom?
It's just as likely to be someone temporarily parked nearby at the camp site. It could be both. I do think it's someone with local knowledge, and it may involve more than one person.
 
  • #385
Denis Rowlandson said to the Sun: “I rent the barn to store woodcuts to dry out and I sell them as fire logs. I don’t know anybody with a red van who should be parked outside that barn or near the entrance. I don’t know of anybody at all with a van
Looking at Google maps I thought the van was parked at a different barn on hall road. Is the image on snipet on that road also
 
  • #386
Delete, why? It was a rhetorical question, but perfectly valid as that is what Nicola did; she met her boss in Garstang the day before.

People are making a big thing of Nicola's boss driving to see her; I'm saying meeting Nicola could have been one of several things for which the boss drove up.
Understood. I had misinterpreted the post as it followed other discussion about NB possibly meeting her boss on the day of her disappearance. Apologies !
 
  • #387
I"m struggling to work out if this was an opportunist (but with some planning), or if Nicola was unhappy in some way and just left. It's so striking that there appears to be no forensics. How oculd she have left the area unnoticed? I just don't get it. I guess that's the police's logic with the falling theory. But if she had an accident, it could be a few different things, and there could still have been a cover up of some kind if it involved another person? I hoped they've checked tha lake and any of the outbuildings nearby. I'm sure the police know more about the CCTV than they are giving away too. Quite right. They're possibly waiting for someone to mess up.
 
  • #388
A witness saw two fishermen in the area on the day before and on the day NB went missing. They mentioned it on here.
Dang! Have misinterpreted the quote.

Garage worker means the 2 officers included a male & a female? ( I thought the garage worker meant they were following-up a lead of a sighting of a man & a woman)

'A garage worker, who asked not to be named, said: “Two smartly dressed officers came in following up, a man and a woman.
“They wanted the CCTV from the day before Nicola vanished and to take statements of any activity we had seen from that day.


Had read about the fishermen sightings on WS. Thanks though
 
  • #389
If these photo's of NB - posted to show her and what she was wearing on the morning she disappeared - are not genuine, then, given the police attitude to this disappearance, the poster would be in police custody by now and all the photo's deleted.

This has been discussed before and we know Nicola left her car parked at the school and I think she has to walk on the pavement by the road for a while to get to the place she walks Willow. I can’t imagine that’s a great situation in terms of kidnapping, especially at that time of day. The police said there were 700 cars in the area at the time Nicola was there. That’s masses of witnesses plus lots of dashboard camers.



But if someone kidnapped her, what did they do with her and why would the kidnapper then pretend to be Nicola walking her dog? What would be gained by this? If you’ve kidnapped somebody, surely it’s best to minimise the possibility of people seeing you?

Nicola isn’t very tall, so the kidnapper would need to be petite too and slim and have similar hair and similar clothes and be able to walk someone else’s dog and know the route Nicola always too. On top of this, it‘s a massive risk. The other dog walkers may have bumped into fake Nicola, or stopped to have a chat with fake Nicola.

It’s really high risk and I can’t see how it serves any useful purpose. Why do you think they would do this? What’s your thinking here?

JMO MOO
It would only work if it was a kidnapper and a woman accomplice working to a plan. I'm definitely not saying that this happened btw, but how much of what we know about NB after she left the school is actually nailed down. We might get some progress when the Police give up on the river theory, if they ever do.
 
  • #390
Just for those unaware- you can be in a teams call and use other apps in the background.
 
  • #391
I"m struggling to work out if this was an opportunist (but with some planning), or if Nicola was unhappy in some way and just left.?
I'm increasingly open to most things but I do have trouble with the notion of Nicola willingly abandoning Willow.
 
  • #392
Re-reading the thread, if the harness was found midway down the bank as suggested, that makes is strongly likely that NB was nearer the river edge, IF there is a deep hole underwater then could it be possible that by sheer incredibly bad luck she fell straight down that hole (if as suggested it's about 20 ft deep she'd surely have died and if it was narrow maybe her body is stuck in the hole)

It does feel like the police divers would have found her though?
 
  • #393
intriguing

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A garage worker, who asked not to be named, said: “Two smartly dressed officers came in following up, a man and a woman.

“They wanted the CCTV from the day before Nicola vanished and to take statements of any activity we had seen from that day.'
This garage, along with the Grapes pub, is the only business in the immediate vicinity. Very hard to believe LE waited till Thursday 9th to ask for CCTV for the day(s) leading up to NB’s disappearance. It’s almost as though they were pre-occupied with other another theory. MOO
 
  • #394
I"m struggling to work out if this was an opportunist (but with some planning), or if Nicola was unhappy in some way and just left. It's so striking that there appears to be no forensics. How oculd she have left the area unnoticed? I just don't get it. I guess that's the police's logic with the falling theory. But if she had an accident, it could be a few different things, and there could still have been a cover up of some kind if it involved another person?
I initially thought that there had been an accident and she had slipped and fell into the river but I would not be surprised if she is alive.
 
  • #395
intriguing

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A garage worker, who asked not to be named, said: “Two smartly dressed officers came in following up, a man and a woman.

“They wanted the CCTV from the day before Nicola vanished and to take statements of any activity we had seen from that day.'
This garage, along with the Grapes pub, is the only business in the immediate vicinity. Very hard to believe LE waited till Thursday 9th to ask for CCTV for the day(s) leading up to NB’s disappearance. It’s almost as though they were pre-occupied with other another theory. MOO
 
  • #396
This case is diminishing from the media it feels today - I’ve got awful feeling this will become unsolved case
 
  • #397
Re-reading the thread, if the harness was found midway down the bank as suggested, that makes is strongly likely that NB was nearer the river edge, IF there is a deep hole underwater then could it be possible that by sheer incredibly bad luck she fell straight down that hole (if as suggested it's about 20 ft deep she'd surely have died and if it was narrow maybe her body is stuck in the hole)

It does feel like the police divers would have found her though?
The bench and location of the harness are red herrings, as discussed earlier.
 
  • #398
Just for those unaware- you can be in a teams call and use other apps in the background.
Oh Yes you can! It’s the only thing that gets me through the 15 minute long reading of the last meetings’ minutes
 
  • #399
Dang! Have misinterpreted the quote.

Garage worker means the 2 officers included a male & a female? ( I thought the garage worker meant they were following-up a lead of a sighting of a man & a woman)

'A garage worker, who asked not to be named, said: “Two smartly dressed officers came in following up, a man and a woman.
“They wanted the CCTV from the day before Nicola vanished and to take statements of any activity we had seen from that day.


Had read about the fishermen sightings on WS. Thanks though
I guess they are separate sightings
 
  • #400
This case is diminishing from the media it feels today - I’ve got awful feeling this will become unsolved case
Or the investigation has taken a different direction .
 
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