Found Deceased UK - Nicola Bulley Last Seen Walking Dog Near River - St Michaels on Wyre (Lancashire) #6

[JennieM]

I don't know if this has been previously shared, but there is now a Wiki entry:

Death of Nicola Bulley - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[phatavocado]

You might be right there actually (not convinced she’s wearing the gilet at that point but doubt she has loads of them) - little doubt on the wellies and undercoat though.

Family Friend Tilly Ann has confirmed the CCTV picture is what she was wearing when she went missing

 

[JennieM]

I don't know if this has been previously shared, but there is now a Wiki entry:

Death of Nicola Bulley - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

You can go to View History and click on previous dates to see earlier versions of reporting.

 

[phatavocado]

Anyone feel like dragging up historical maps of the park?
I'm interested in old tunnels, crypts underground passages that might have existed prior to development?
Just in case she was taken there if she is not in the water and I sincerely hope she is not in the water.
Longshot, I know but might be worth looking at as there is no evidence she left that park that day or subsequently.

There are many refrences to lots of old mines in the area...

 

[kittythehare]

There are many refrences to lots of old mines in the area...

Are there?
I'm geographically seriously challenged but I was wondering whether an imaginary perp who would have known of them as a child could have found them for nefarious purposes?
A hidden entrance perchance?

 

[DancingMuse]

There are many refrences to lots of old mines in the area...

A lot of ruins (of mines) and caves. But don't know how near to the park they are:

St Michael's on Wyre in Lancashire

A Guide to St Michael's on Wyre in Lancashire

www.landscapebritain.co.uk

 

[phatavocado]

Are there?
I'm geographically seriously challenged but I was wondering whether an imaginary perp who would have known of them as a child could have found them for nefarious purposes?
A hidden entrance perchance?

Here is a local geography/intrest site

 

[kittythehare]

A lot of ruins (of mines) and caves. But don't know how near to the park they are:

St Michael's on Wyre in Lancashire

A Guide to St Michael's on Wyre in Lancashire

www.landscapebritain.co.uk

Wow, thank you.
I wonder what the park was called in early times?
There must be historical maps showing ancient sites.
It's the wildest of longshots I know.
What should we search under?

 

[wackyw]

Here is a local geography/intrest site
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That site is a load of the proverbial. It's like some web aggregator that collects random names of towns within a 40 mile radius. I'm not aware of any mining in the vicinity of St Michaels, the area also has a history of terrible flooding.

 

[phatavocado]

A lot of ruins (of mines) and caves. But don't know how near to the park they are:

St Michael's on Wyre in Lancashire

A Guide to St Michael's on Wyre in Lancashire

www.landscapebritain.co.uk

@kittythehare I've been through the list and placed them on the maps, none are remtoely close to wear NB went missin, all miles away.. i didn't check exact travel time but closest probabaly 20-30 minutes car journey

 

[kittythehare]

@kittythehare I've been through the list and placed them on the maps, none are remtoely close to wear NB went missin, all miles away.. i didn't check exact travel time but closest probabaly 20-30 minutes car journey

Thanks so much for doing all that work.. I appreciate it.

 

[infinit]

and he's now saying that this is a very long stretch of river for them to do but this morning - when he wasn't involved and he was complaining - it was easy peasy and could have been done in a day

hours later and now he says it's a ' huge task for the police'

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prior to that Faulding said the investigation was ' a mess'
Now he says he's not been criticising the police.

Do we know of any cases where his team have been used and been successful? Can't find much on their website.

I've got a horrible feeling based on how he's acted so far that if they come up with nothing he's going to write off the possibility she entered the water and cause the poor family more distress.

JMO.

 

[Dan Cooper]

I'm slightly puzzled by the "fell into the river" explanation when her phone was found on the bench, near the dog's lead.

How far from the bench is the river? Would anyone normally leave their phone on a bench and then wander off down a riverbank?

 

[wackyw]

Are there?
I'm geographically seriously challenged but I was wondering whether an imaginary perp who would have known of them as a child could have found them for nefarious purposes?
A hidden entrance perchance?

I momentarily imagined a "priest hole" from the church to The Old House ( the abandoned mansion ) but that would be some feat of engineering ..... and it's an Anglican church ..

 

[kittythehare]

I momentarily imagined a "priest hole" from the church to The Old House ( the abandoned mansion ) but that would be some feat of engineering ..... and it's an Anglican church ..

It's a start
Anything in the park from ancient times or where can I search it out? What would be the search criteria?
I'm doing this to explore alternatives to the river.
Suppose somebody took her and brought her straight there, under duress, possibly history around caravan park or whatever is most closely accessable from turnstile where dog couldn't follow?
Will require local knowledge, I know and is most likely a wild goose chase but a bit of sleuthing might not go amiss.

 

[JennieM]

There's now a UK - Nicola Bulley, St Michaels on Wyre (Lancashire), Jan 27, 2023 *MEDIA, MAPS, & TIMELINES - NO DISCUSSION*, thanks @Allabouttrial that's a lot of hard work!!

UK - Nicola Bulley, St Michaels on Wyre (Lancashire), Jan 27, 2023 *MEDIA, MAPS, & TIMELINES - NO DISCUSSION*

#MISSING | Have you seen Nicola Bulley, who has gone missing from home in Inskip? Nicola, 45, was last seen at around 9.15am today (Friday, January 27th) on the footpath by the river off Garstang Road in St Michael’s on Wyre. She is described as white, 5ft 3ins tall, with light brown...

www.websleuths.com

 

[JennieM]

I'm slightly puzzled by the "fell into the river" explanation when her phone was found on the bench, near the dog's lead.

How far from the bench is the river? Would anyone normally leave their phone on a bench and then wander off down a riverbank?

If you go to page 2 of the new thread and scroll down you can see a photo of the bench and the distance to the river very clearly UK - Nicola Bulley, St Michaels on Wyre (Lancashire), Jan 27, 2023 *MEDIA, MAPS, & TIMELINES - NO DISCUSSION*

 

[wackyw]

It's a start
Anything in the park from ancient times or where can I search it out? What would be the search criteria?
I'm doing this to explore alternatives to the river.
Suppose somebody took her and brought her straight there, under duress, possibly history around caravan park or whatever is most closely accessable from turnstile where dog couldn't follow?
Will require local knowledge, I know and is most likely a wild goose chase but a bit of sleuthing might not go amiss.

I'm not really sure what we are discussing by "the park". This area was almost exclusively agricultural back in the old days, and much still is. I'm guessing these caravan parks are simply where farms have diversified, or where farms lost all/most their livestock during the bad floods of recent history.

I worry we might be going off-topic but I like your sleuthing idea on this because I'm also still of the view "a perp" could have been involved and walked out of there, not taking NB obvs. I'll have a dig around to see if I can find anything that stays on topic ... or if you are interested in the wider history of the area maybe we DM, can we do that on this forum ?

I grew up in Garstang, 5 miles up river of this location.

 

[porkypies]

I'm still so heartbroken by all this, but I would really like to know why LE haven't /didn't release photos of NB on the day she went missing if they had them? And of course no reconstruction. (In other cases LE have released pictures from the day, to try and jog peoples memory I assume, along with the description, and later a reconstruction of some sort I know different police forces will have different ways of doing things, but this has been particularly jarring). I was also struck that I wouldn't necessarily have picked out the picture from the description in NB's case. I do still wonder if there is a line of enquiry we aren't privy to, which precludes the aspects we are familiar with seeing in MSM, which is why so many of us find this particular case odd.

It's possible that police didn't release the pictures because they are unclear, as evidenced by the number of posts here complaining that the police have got her description wrong because it does not match that of a fuzzy doorbell camera?

 

[kittythehare]

I'm not really sure what we are discussing by "the park". This area was almost exclusively agricultural back in the old days, and much still is. I'm guessing these caravan parks are simply where farms have diversified, or where farms lost all/most their livestock during the bad floods of recent history.

I worry we might be going off-topic but I like your sleuthing idea on this because I'm also still of the view "a perp" could have been involved and walked out of there, not taking NB obvs. I'll have a dig around to see if I can find anything that stays on topic ... or if you are interested in the wider history of the area maybe we DM, can we do that on this forum ?

I grew up in Garstang, 5 miles up river of this location.

I think it's fine to sleuth on the thread..
Great you are local.
Thinking a place your grandfather's or great-grandfather's generation knew as a hidey hole in the area but which is no longer known but still accessible but that is not now common knowledge and that searchers would not know about.
If she didn't leave the park she is there still but in a place that is very well hidden.. something that got covered by modernity, just not 100%, maybe kids used to play there, ancient crypts or anything similar..?
Could be something in historical centres for learning , may be documented in historical academia, possibly heritage?