Found Deceased UK - Nicola Bulley Last Seen Walking Dog Near River - St Michaels on Wyre (Lancashire) #9

[msmarple99]

Just watched the press conf question and answer you refer to in your previous post - that is quite the pause after she is asked the question.

Can someone clarify why NB is high risk MP, thx

 

[Seattle1]

Nicola Bulley latest as search for missing mum enters 16th day

Nicola Bulley search latest news and updates

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk

Day 13 -- reporter Thomas George takes 15 min walking tour retracing NB's steps from the primary school to the upper/lower fields and the bench. Video at the link above.

 

[Officer Dibble]

Updated Daily Mail article

'She may NEVER be found… no one knows. We have nothing': Dive expert says Nicola Bulley is NOT in the River Wyre – as hunt for the missing mother enters 14th day and friend urges police to search abandoned local house​

• Close family friend Tilly Ann claims abandoned house has not yet been searched
• Comes after police admitted that Nicola could have left the area with third party

Paul Ansell, 44, yesterday visited the scene where the mother-of-two is believed to have vanished while walking her dog by the River Wyre on January 27.

He spent around two hours at the river, but was informed by expert diver Peter Faulding that his partner 'may never be found'.

It comes as Mr Faulding, founder of specialist search team Specialist Group International (SGI), has dramatically called a halt to the search of the river after three days of meticulously combing the water.

He said: 'She may never be found. We don't know. No one knows. It is unusual because usually you have some evidence.

'Here we have nothing. We have nothing to go on apart from a phone and a harness.

Dive expert says Nicola Bulley is NOT in the River Wyre

Paul Ansell, 44, yesterday visited the scene where the mother-of-two is believed to have vanished while walking her dog by the River Wyre on January 27.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Claudia Lawrence is still missing, never found. Leah Croucher was missing for years, presumed by Police to have disappeared voluntarily yet found deceased in a house she passed everyday on the way to work. Many other women were missing for years or never found, like Suzy Lamplugh. Edited to add: MOO

 

[Officer Dibble]

Even if the park was closed, usually owners can visit during the day (to check on it in cold weather, collect something etc). It’s to do with council tax that you can’t live in it the whole year round. Well that and the fact it’s freezing and pipes will burst if it’s not drained down.

A park I had a caravan on would let you on all year round but you weren’t allowed to stay overnight in Dec-Feb.

Presumably LE have checked who had access that day?

Thank you for sharing this. I have never thought of this at all. So who owns the caravans on this particular park then? Indivdual owners or just one owner of the entire site? JMO MOO

 

[Meeky]

A mom took her dog for a walk in northern England last week. Her partner says she 'vanished into thin air'

On a cold January morning, a mother-of-two dropped her young daughters off at school before taking her springer spaniel for their usual walk by the river.

www.cnn.com

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Specialist search teams from Lancashire Police beside the bench where Nicola Bulley's phone was found.

Retracing final steps​

Others out walking their dogs that morning were the last people to see Bulley before she vanished – and it seems there was nothing unusual about her manner.

According to Lancashire Police Superintendent Sally Riley, Bulley was familiar with the area and would often do the same walk.

A friend of Bulley’s told the Mirror that she had since spoken to two dog walkers who had seen Bulley that day, saying that she had been “laughing and joking” with them as she passed by.

• She was sighted by one dog walker in a field with Willow at around 8.50 a.m., police said. Willow was not on the lead.
• At 8.53 a.m., Bulley sent an email to her boss.
• She logged into the Teams work call at 9.01 a.m. “All of this was normal behavior for Nicola,” Superintendent Wiley told a press briefing on Friday afternoon.
• Her last confirmed sighting was at 9.10 a.m., when another dog walker known to Bulley saw her walking with Willow on Upper Field.
• Police believe her phone was on the bench near the riverbank at 9.20 a.m. after tracing telephony records.
• The work call ended 10 minutes later, at 9.30 a.m.
• A passerby discovered the phone at around 9.35 a.m. It was still connected to the conference call. Her brown spaniel was found running loose between the gate to the field and the bench. Lancashire Police confirmed to CNN that the dog was dry and did not appear to have entered the water.

Bulley’s partner of 12 years, Paul Ansell, rushed to the scene after receiving a call from his daughters’ school that the family dog had been found, Bulley’s friend told the Mirror. He quickly phoned the police.

During Friday’s press briefing, Superintendent Riley said officers were “particularly interested” in the time between the phone being placed on the bench at 9.20 a.m. and the device being recovered 10 minutes later.

“We only have a 10-minute window in which we cannot account for Nicola’s movements,” she said.

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“We believe that Nicola was in the riverside area and remained at the riverside area. We remain open to any inquiries that might lead us to question that, but at this time we understand that she was by the river.”

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Meanwhile, worried locals keen to aid in the search operation have been participating in organized walks.

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Superintendent Riley acknowledged there has been a high level of concern in the local community. “However, parts of the riverbank are treacherous, and we would ask that nobody puts themselves in danger and that the police and partner agencies’ efforts to find Nicola are not compromised,” she said.

I see the paving slabs that were just in front of the bench have gone in the top pic. Hopefully for forensic tests

 

[I wonder]

One thing that does increase the possibility of an attack/abduction is that this walk after dropping the children off at school was routine. Routines, particularly with lone women, can make us very vulnerable. We should be safe everywhere, but let's face it, we're not. I'd like to know whether Nicola did this everyday or if she did some and her partner did the rest. Also, did they have specific days? It seems like Nicola did all or most, but obviously I don't know.

JMO MOO

 

[InVinoVeritas]

So, disputes about clothes and string aside, it seems potential scenarios and limitaions are:

1. NB accidentally fell into the river near the bench, maybe after a medical episode or something to do with the dog.
2. NB accidentally fell into the river in a different spot to the bench.
3. NB was pushed into the river.
4. NB was never in the river
5. NB disappeared of her own volition
6. NB was attacked/abducted

Questions I would like answers to:

1. Why was NB classed as a high risk person? Yes we are not privy to everything, BUT, she was seemingly fit/well, and on a normal daily activity.
2. Why were the school phoned?
3. This big house, abandoned or not, is on the other side of the river so why is this such a topic of interest?

 

[todders]

I see the paving slabs that were just in front of the bench have gone in the top pic. Hopefully for forensic tests

That is a good spot.IMO

 

[Cuko]

Some on here have mentioned that the LE response to NB’s disappearance was commensurate with the High Risk category level. Has there been any indication in msm or from LE to explain why this might be?

 

[steelo]

So there is no POI to speak of.
The river has been searched and nothing found.
No reason to believe a 3rd party is involved.
So NB must have left the field willingly or has been swept out to sea.

 

[LastSeenWearing]

I may be wrong, but I wonder if the police want all drivers/cyclists who passed through that road at that time to contact them for elimination? Despite believing NB drowned, they want to cover every scenario. I’m certain that all roads leading off that part, in all directions, have CCTV and you can guarantee they have the registrations of every vehicle that passed by that area in that short time frame.

So if someone doesn’t respond the police may wonder why. Perhaps they’re weeding out any possible suspects, if indeed there is a third party involved.

I was wondering that she didn't have a hat on when most of her FB posts seem to show that she walked wearing her hair down and with a bobble hat on rather than a ponytail.

A hat would have been likely to come off if she had entered the river which would have been at least a piece of evidence that she had actually been in the river.

 

[Beginnersleuth]

That is a good spot.IMO

Agree, there was really early on a photo (can’t remember where) with some potential disturbance to soil near it & that one slab moved. Maybe was a trip hazard or something. Or evidence. Interesting!

 

[ayrshireguy]

Just a casual observation! If the slope near the bench is potentially dangerous, how is it that since it has become a tourist attraction that so many people have stood there and walked around and not one person has been reported as having slipped/tripped or fallen. Looking at footage from various sources, nobody I have seen appears to be struggling with the slope by the bench. JMOO

It's not that steep or treacherous to be fair. Photos of the embankment from the opposite side of the river show it much better.

 

[themagiceye]

I feel this has reached a point this thread / case should be closed on websleuths and only opened when new information comes to light.

On facebook its reached a point people are driving up from opposite ends of the country to visit and "help", asking others for lifts up like its a trip to disney land for the day out.

We have people entering peoples private property and confronting people, making baseless accusations. Some creating absolutely insane theories that havent been mentioned anywhere just their own "gut feeling".

The likes of facebook groups, chat groups and sadly these posts have now become spawning grounds for this misinformation and its causing great stress on the investigation and the police.

If an admin / moderator sees this, please take this into consideration for the good of the case.

I think you raise a very good point here.

I had the misfortune of seeing the Dan Duffy video last night where is out doing his own 'search' and ends up in a confrontation with two men who appear to protecting part of their land or something in the area from the vigilanti contingent. The speed of the aggression and insinuation between the two parties is nothing short of mind-blowing.

The real problem we have now is social media related. It seems to me that social media has caused a global increase in narcissism, and people will literally post anything in an attempt to get likes / become an overnight star. Tik Tok is probably the worst because it seems a lot of the content is just simply not monitored, and in this case you have certain people filming live as they creep around private property, break into buildings, and shout accusations at strangers, all for the purpose of raising their own profile.

The dark tourists who visit the bench and take selfies are just as bad. Then you've got the conspiracy theorists who post wild suggestions on the basis of a 'hunch', or their seemingly otherworldly sense of intuition. All of it is ugly, and none of it helps this case in any way. On the contrary, some of the stuff being posted could potential harm the case should it become a criminal one.

There is fault on both sides. As the ex-detective said on TV last week 'where there is a void of information, it will be filled with speculation'. I feel that the police have handled the public poorly on this, because the point blank 'she's in the river' in the face of expert PF's 'she's not in the river' just doesn't give the public much confidence. I'm fairly certain that the information vacuum is tactical, but there's a limit to how many days can pass where the official hypothesis is regurgitated even in the face of zero evidence.

I think sleuthing on here is positive, but only if we call out people and posters who aren't adding any value to the process.

 

[shadwell]

Agree, there was really early on a photo (can’t remember where) with some potential disturbance to soil near it & that one slab moved. Maybe was a trip hazard or something. Or evidence. Interesting!

Or it could simply be that they’re not visible from that low angle. Though given the way this is going at the moment, they could equally currently be for sale on eBay.

 

[cottonweaver]

That is a good spot.IMO

be great to get the date the photo was taken
Anybody know?

 

[Lady Mallowan]

I wonder if, for example, people are being careful on the slope that is reported to be the site of a fall into the river. Just a thought.

Of course, that is always possible considering what may have happened to Nicola. I live rurally in a village not dissimilar and areas on a slope/hill which are muddy and slippery, I tend to watch my feet and the ground in front, tread very carefully, using my heels to dig in and take small steps. I just haven’t seen anyone doing that around the bench area. So personally I don’t consider this slope as dangerous as has been suggested. Although an incident at the edge of the river is of course still possible. JMOO

 

[DazN]

I see the paving slabs that were just in front of the bench have gone in the top pic. Hopefully for forensic tests

I think that's an optical illusion. They are present during the report shown on ITV's This Morning earlier today:

https://www.itv.com/thismorning/art...retracing-her-last-steps-before-disappearance

 

[JimmyBets]

We all understand that LE with old certain information to protect their enquiries. However I think we have reached the point where LE Need to release SOME (not all) further information to support their main hypothesis in order to protect the local community. Hounding of witnesses, breaking and entering into properties and general gouhlish behaviour needs to be stopped.

 

[GTB72]

Some on here have mentioned that the LE response to NB’s disappearance was commensurate with the High Risk category level. Has there been any indication in msm or from LE to explain why this might be?

None, as far as I can remember. Perhaps LE has information that they are not at liberty to share.