UK - Nurse Lucy Letby, Faces 22 Charges - 7 Murder/15 Attempted Murder of Babies #20

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  • #301
If having to choose between believing a nurse who sees multiple babies and parents every day, one who has been accused of murder and attempted murder none the less, or believing the mum of baby E, who’s last memories of her baby will be etched in her mind forever. I know exactly who I’d believe in this instance.

If LL is accusing baby E’s mum of lying about the blood, the screaming, LL telling her to leave then I find it in extremely bad taste. This poor mum didn’t get to spend much time with her baby, the time she did have will be precious to her and IMO I believe her, right down to her saying she went down to the unit before 10pm, witnessed her baby screaming horrendously and bleeding and was told to leave by LL. What reason would mum have to lie about this? None IMO.

All JMO
Her phone calls to her husband back up her timing.
 
  • #302
3:52pm

Mr Myers says the issue of Child F will focus on his blood sugar and insulin levels.
On August 5, from 1.55am-7pm, there were "issues" with Child F's blood glucose levels being too level [my note - think this should say 'low'].
At 5.56pm, a blood sample was taken which, when the results were returned, came back with extremely high insulin (4,657) and very low insulin c-peptide (169) levels.

 
  • #303
It's very daring for the defense to go head to head with 2 of the witnesses imo. SE and MT both have matching accounts and they oppose LLs. I feel this has left a big opening for the prosecution during cross.

I'm not sure if daring is the right word anymore as it looks like LL will be going head to head with all the witnesses. It feels a little repetitive just reading the reports...imo
 
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Dan O'Donoghue

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Jurors have previously heard that Child F’s heart rate surged and his blood glucose levels dropped dangerously low after he received a new intravenous feed including nutrients and sugar.
 
  • #305
3:59pm

Letby is asked to talk through blood glucose level readings taken for Child F throughout the day.
The readings are low until 9.17pm on August 5.



 
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Dan O'Donoghue

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Mr Myers asks if Ms Letby knows why Child F had high insulin readings that night, she said 'no'. Asked if she had anything to do with Child F being given insulin he wasn't meant to receive, she said 'no'
 
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Judith Moritz

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Lucy Letby denies giving baby F insulin that he shouldn't have had. She denies adding it to his feed. She says that, if he did get the insulin, she has no idea how it happened.
 
  • #308
4:02pm

Letby was not the designated nurse for Child F on August 4-5, and was the designated nurse for a baby in room 2. Child F was also in room 2, with another nurse the designated baby.
An intensive care chart on August 1 is shown to the court, for Child F. Performing "various cares" for Child F is Lucy Letby, the court hears, as hourly observation readings are signed by her on the chart throughout the night, until 7am on August 2.

4:04pm

Letby was also providing cares for August 2-3, and part of the way through August 3-4 until Child E deteriorated, the court hears.

4:06pm

Letby is asked what she wanted to do on that August 4 night shift.
Letby: "I wanted to care for him."
Mr Myers: "Did you want to 'finish off' anything you had started anywhere else, as is alleged?"
Letby: "No."

 
  • #309
4:08pm

Letby says her priority was to get Child F well and get him home.

 
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Evidence in chief - time on the stand

Baby A - 49 mins
Baby B - 24 mins
Baby C - 44 mins
Baby D - 31 mins
Baby E - 54 mins
Baby F - 20 mins
 
  • #312
4:14pm

That concludes today's evidence.
The case will resume with Lucy Letby giving further evidence in respect of Child F.
Members of the jury are reminded not to discuss the case with anyone and not to conduct any research into the case.

 
  • #313
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New sketch from BBC.
 
  • #314
Evidence in chief - time on the stand

Baby A - 49 mins
Baby B - 24 mins
Baby C - 44 mins
Baby D - 31 mins
Baby E - 54 mins
Baby F - 20 mins
A lot quicker than I'd expected!
 
  • #315
Really is repetitive, has anyone spotted any inconsistencies or anything?

otherwise might as well wait for the prosecution to cross question.
 
  • #316
I wonder if LL has access to the internet from her prison cell
 
  • #317
I wonder if LL has access to the internet from her prison cell
I’ve been thinking that, I’m sure she doesn’t but if she was looking the web after a ng verdict she would probably come straight here.
 
  • #318
During her second day in the witness box, Letby said: 'It felt like we walked through the door into this awful situation. That was the first time I'd met (Baby) A and his parents. It was a huge shock'.

[...]

Her barrister then asked what it felt like to be the subject of such an allegation.

She replied: 'It's awful. I wasn't even supposed to be working that night. It was such a shock to walk into that situation'.

[...]

Letby recalled that the following morning a nursing friend on the unit sent her a WhatsApp message to say: 'You did amazing. So proud of you…You did fab xxxx'.

Moments later she said she hoped the alleged killer hadn't found the compliment patronising.

Letby replied: 'It's not patronising at all. Appreciate you saying that and thanks for letting me do it but supporting me so well'. [...]

[re Facebook searches] 'To walk into the unit that morning and to have not met the parents…I wanted to see the people behind the awful event that had happened. They were on my mind'.

[...]

At one point Letby broke off while answering a question, appearing to be startled by a noise in the courtroom.

Mr Myers noticed her hesitancy and asked whether she was able to continue. “Yeah, I’m very easily distracted,” said Letby.

Her barrister asked: “Have you always been like that?”. “No,” she replied.

[...]

She also rejected the mother’s assertion that she had told her to leave the unit. “That’s not something we would do,” she told Mr Myers.

 
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  • #319
Quite a few "we" statements, above article and this one

"Letby said: “When I was carrying out my equipment checks around the bedside (Child A’s) monitor sounded. That’s when we noted his colour had changed and he was apnoeic.”

[...]

Letby told the court she was asked to retrieve a camera from a manager’s office but Child B had stabilised by the time she returned.

Letby added: “And I got it very quickly.”

 
  • #320
During her second day in the witness box, Letby said: 'It felt like we walked through the door into this awful situation. That was the first time I'd met (Baby) A and his parents. It was a huge shock'.

[...]

Her barrister then asked what it felt like to be the subject of such an allegation.

She replied: 'It's awful. I wasn't even supposed to be working that night. It was such a shock to walk into that situation'.

[...]

Letby recalled that the following morning a nursing friend on the unit sent her a WhatsApp message to say: 'You did amazing. So proud of you…You did fab xxxx'.

Moments later she said she hoped the alleged killer hadn't found the compliment patronising.

Letby replied: 'It's not patronising at all. Appreciate you saying that and thanks for letting me do it but supporting me so well'. [...]

[re Facebook searches] 'To walk into the unit that morning and to have not met the parents…I wanted to see the people behind the awful event that had happened. They were on my mind'.

[...]

At one point Letby broke off while answering a question, appearing to be startled by a noise in the courtroom.

Mr Myers noticed her hesitancy and asked whether she was able to continue. “Yeah, I’m very easily distracted,” said Letby.

Her barrister asked: “Have you always been like that?”. “No,” she replied.

[...]

She also rejected the mother’s assertion that she had told her to leave the unit. “That’s not something we would do,” she told Mr Myers.


During her second day in the witness box, Letby said: 'It felt like we walked through the door into this awful situation. That was the first time I'd met (Baby) A and his parents. It was a huge shock'.

She also rejected the mother’s assertion that she had told her to leave the unit. “That’s not something we would do,” she told Mr Myers.

Apart from the fact that the "awful situation" didn't start happening till after she started her shift. What's all this "we" stuff ?
 
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