UK - Nurse Lucy Letby, Faces 22 Charges - 7 Murder/15 Attempted Murder of Babies #24

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Omg, you must be shattered!

They did report on spelling the name out, but not the snapping part.

Look forward to hearing more later.
It makes sense that she was using her handover sheet collection for her Facebook searches. Especially since she was searching up parents from Liverpool Women's and they said she had all her handover sheets from when she was training. I think the mystery of why she collected them was solved today. I had wondered if she had a very carefully hidden list of hundreds of parents names for her searches.

I wonder if she was looking because she knew something had happened while she was caring for those babies, checking for complaints for example, or if it was to see if any photos of her with the babies were ever put up on the children's birthdays.

JMO
 
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Omg, you must be shattered!

They did report on spelling the name out, but not the snapping part.

Look forward to hearing more later.
I am totally knackered, I am off to bed now lol
I was up at 4am and it took 4.5hrs to drive home again, but I am sooo glad I went ! I am pretty sure this was the best day of cross examination yet.
 
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I am totally knackered, I am off to bed now lol
I was up at 4am and it took 4.5hrs to drive home again, but I am sooo glad I went ! I am pretty sure this was the best day of cross examination yet.
Look forward to getting the low down in due course.
 
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What if she wrote “I’ll never marry or have kids” because her love interest was married? But because she doesn’t want to admit they had an affair she can’t say it’s about him.
 
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What if she wrote “I’ll never marry or have kids” because her love interest was married? But because she doesn’t want to admit they had an affair she can’t say it’s about him.
Interesting thought. It's easy to assume this note was about going to jail but it could be associated with the declining likelihood he would pick her as a partner for a long term relationship.
Until today I thought it was flirty but plutonic but now, the love hearts and trips away, it makes you wonder if either of them have been honest.
 
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What if she wrote “I’ll never marry or have kids” because her love interest was married? But because she doesn’t want to admit they had an affair she can’t say it’s about him.
I agree, I’m wondering if he said he wasn’t leaving his wife, so she threw herself a pity party. She then repurposed it as evidence of her isolation and victimisation by the gang of 4.
obviously MOO.
 
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I am totally knackered, I am off to bed now lol
I was up at 4am and it took 4.5hrs to drive home again, but I am sooo glad I went ! I am pretty sure this was the best day of cross examination yet.
Hope you manage to rest well, and of course sharing your experience today. Most appreciated.
 
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I agree, I’m wondering if he said he wasn’t leaving his wife, so she threw herself a pity party. She then repurposed it as evidence of her isolation and victimisation by the gang of 4.
obviously MOO.
So you're saying basically she came on to him,got in a huff with him for not taking her seriously and then used this as a strand of the 'im so isolated' picture?
 
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It makes sense that she was using her handover sheet collection for her Facebook searches. Especially since she was searching up parents from Liverpool Women's and they said she had all her handover sheets from when she was training. I think the mystery of why she collected them was solved today. I had wondered if she had a very carefully hidden list of hundreds of parents names for her searches.

I wonder if she was looking because she knew something had happened while she was caring for those babies, checking for complaints for example, or if it was to see if any photos of her with the babies were ever put up on the children's birthdays.

JMO
Interesting reaction at the mention of spelling of the mothers name. So not only has she had dozens of handover sheets and can’t specifically spell the name of one of the parents without said sheet; she’s possibly (potentially) fishing out the sheets a doctor had from the confidential waste too. Doesn’t look at all good for her right now imo.
 
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What if she wrote “I’ll never marry or have kids” because her love interest was married? But because she doesn’t want to admit they had an affair she can’t say it’s about him.

Interesting thought. It's easy to assume this note was about going to jail but it could be associated with the declining likelihood he would pick her as a partner for a long term relationship.
Until today I thought it was flirty but plutonic but now, the love hearts and trips away, it makes you wonder if either of them have been honest.
If the note was only about marrying and having kids that theory might work. But the "I'll never marry" note is the same note where she wrote "I killed them on purpose" and "I am evil" "I did this". So, IMO, no I don't think it was a reference to Doc Choc being married.

JMO, if guilty etc.
 
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Interesting reaction at the mention of spelling of the mothers name. So not only has she had dozens of handover sheets and can’t specifically spell the name of one of the parents without said sheet; she’s possibly (potentially) fishing out the sheets a doctor had from the confidential waste too. Doesn’t look at all good for her right now imo.
Wasn't a document the doctor left a note from resus?

Like the testimony of a dying child? :(

If she is guilty, it was kept as a memento IMO.
 
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Following on from Chester reporting today, after NJ had finished questions her I noticed BM for her defence was then sharing info about her being in other photos and “having a social life” etc. It is discussed about holiday photos, Prosecco etc and I think this is to highlight she had a social life and her carrying on with a social life is nothing unusual.

However for me; all this has done has demonstrated that her carrying on with her social life, holidays and going to London etc; was that her private and social life wasn’t impacted like they had claimed at the start of the trial. If anything, the affect it was intended for has had the complete opposite for me and imo this actually feels like it demonstrates the points by the prosecution.

JMO
 
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If the note was only about marrying and having kids that theory might work. But the "I'll never marry" note is the same note where she wrote "I killed them on purpose" and "I am evil" "I did this". So, IMO, no I don't think it was a reference to Doc Choc being married.

JMO, if guilty etc.
If the note was only about marrying and having kids that theory might work. But the "I'll never marry" note is the same note where she wrote "I killed them on purpose" and "I am evil" "I did this". So, IMO, no I don't think it was a reference to Doc Choc being married.

JMO, if guilty etc.
True but is it not true that he was deeply intertwined in this conspiracy / truth dynamic? Should we not bare in mind that these two dynamics were occuring simultaneously?
 
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Wasn't a document the doctor left a note from resus?

Like the testimony of a dying child? :(

If she is guilty, it was kept as a memento IMO.
I’m not sure now, I think it was a blood gas record but perhaps it was from resus with blood gas readings on it too. She has so much confidential, alarming information in her possession I just can’t keep up!
Moo
 
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I’m not sure now, I think it was a blood gas record but perhaps it was from resus with blood gas readings on it too. She has so much confidential, alarming information in her possession I just can’t keep up!
Moo

I think there were 2 items. 1. The blood gas printout. 2. A handwritten paper towel listing resus drugs. But I'm not quite sure of my own name right now.
 
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I think there were 2 items. 1. The blood gas printout. 2. A handwritten paper towel listing resus drugs. But I'm not quite sure of my own name right now.
It’s hard to keep up with what and just how much she had tbh. She could write a trust policy handbook with the amount of paperwork in her possession, it’s absurd. Moo
 
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True but is it not true that he was deeply intertwined in this conspiracy / truth dynamic? Should we not bare in mind that these two dynamics were occuring simultaneously?
Feel free to. I just don't think it personally.
 
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In what way? That you don't think one dynamic has any baring on another?
 
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Feel free to. I just don't think it personally.
<modsnip: not victim friendly toward witness>

But,...

Didn't he allude to her what the
Consultants were suspecting (air e)?

And surprise, surprise
She immediately wrote this report about malfunction of long lines or sth like this.

JMO
 
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I'm not keen on this 'Dr A' / Doc Choc situation. IMO it's only right and fair that the court and we the public should have a lot more information.

<modsnip: not victim friendly toward witness>

Also, it hasn't been clarified in the court that Dr A / Doc Choc *is* 'the boyfriend' so how are the podcasters sure?

JMO MOO
 
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