UK - Nurse Lucy Letby, murder of babies, 7 Guilty of murder verdicts; 8 Guilty of attempted murder; 2 Not Guilty of attempted; 5 hung re attempted #38

[Charlot123]

Women with medical & law degrees are being shut down? What on earth do you mean? And do the names of Eirian Powell, Alison Kelly, Sandie Bohin etc. mean nothing to you? There were female consultants involved too, remember


I think God complex fits perfectly for a health care serial killer. But who cares really, we'll probably never know her motives. She might not even know herself.

Here is the difference.

The God's complex would fit many serial killers.

The doctors - and I have several older generations to observe, and the nurses are the same in this regard, I assume - are often driven by "the Savior complex". It is different.

Why judge and destroy with "Mene, mene, tekel, upharsin", which would be the God's complex, when you can get all the veneration of the public after "Lazarus, come forth"?

Now, there is a lot of pride in it, and brilliant surgeons, anesthesiologist or ICU specialists often have it. The better the specialist, the more the savior. You can hear them saying, "nowadays, we could have saved him", or such. And, such specialists are not always easy to deal with. However, they do take their work home.

About the God's complex and serial killers. This group has zero empathy to either their victims or themselves. Homicide may easily end in suicide, too. While people in the medical profession might be difficult, egotistical, complex, and then some, but they do feel empathy for their patients and they feel the same for themselves. Two different types of mentality.

So Lucy working in NICU, I don't see why the heck should she play the God if she could play the Savior? "We wouldn't have managed without you, Lucy. You saved him." Much more satisfying, IMHO.

 

[May72031]

I was part of the whole forum conversation throughout the trial, I haven’t just jumped on the bandwagon, I just have a different outlook.

Your different outlook just appears to be a general fascination about staffing levels. But this is an ongoing issue/subject in hospitals all over the country, and I dare say, the world.

It has little to do with Letby murdering babies.

 

[iamshadow21]

Here is the difference.

The God's complex would fit many serial killers.

The doctors - and I have several older generations to observe, and the nurses are the same in this regard, I assume - are often driven by "the Savior complex". It is different.

Why judge and destroy with "Mene, mene, tekel, upharsin", which would be the God's complex, when you can get all the veneration of the public after "Lazarus, come forth"?

Now, there is a lot of pride in it, and brilliant surgeons, anesthesiologist or ICU specialists often have it. The better the specialist, the more the savior. You can hear them saying, "nowadays, we could have saved him", or such. And, such specialists are not always easy to deal with. However, they do take their work home.

About the God's complex and serial killers. This group has zero empathy to either their victims or themselves. Homicide may easily end in suicide, too. While people in the medical profession might be difficult, egotistical, complex, and then some, but they do feel empathy for their patients and they feel the same for themselves. Two different types of mentality.

So Lucy working in NICU, I don't see why the heck should she play the God if she could play the Savior? "We wouldn't have managed without you, Lucy. You saved him." Much more satisfying, IMHO.

It depends entirely on what you find satisfying.

Letby's giddy, intrusive, and over involved behaviour after a death shows how much she enjoyed a high from killing, and from being directly involved with post mortem rituals and post mortem handling of the body. It drew a lot of attention to her from both grieving parents and staff. She was reprimanded for it by management.

That tells me that it wasn't just about saving babies and playing the hero. It was about control over life and death and the rush of power she felt dictating a baby's fate. That is a god complex.

MOO

 

[Charlot123]

It depends entirely on what you find satisfying.

Letby's giddy, intrusive, and over involved behaviour after a death shows how much she enjoyed a high from killing, and from being directly involved with post mortem rituals and post mortem handling of the body. It drew a lot of attention to her from both grieving parents and staff. She was reprimanded for it by management.

That tells me that it wasn't just about saving babies and playing the hero. It was about control over life and death and the rush of power she felt dictating a baby's fate. That is a god complex.

MOO

Well, then, we arrive at the question, did she have many friends? At school, in college, at work? Not everyone knows how to start a random conversation unless it is about some pre-set topic. But, she feels lonely and perhaps wants communication, so here comes the conversation about either her own time at work (Dr. Choc) or what happened at work, kids died. Maybe she was not in such relationships with the other nurses that she’d text them suddenly about a movie she saw, or a book she read.

Or maybe it is what I posted, these are doctors and nurses who take their job home? And she had many shifts.

I just see that her unit, and all that happened in it, became her life.

 

[Sweeper2000]

It depends entirely on what you find satisfying.

Letby's giddy, intrusive, and over involved behaviour after a death shows how much she enjoyed a high from killing, and from being directly involved with post mortem rituals and post mortem handling of the body. It drew a lot of attention to her from both grieving parents and staff. She was reprimanded for it by management.

That tells me that it wasn't just about saving babies and playing the hero. It was about control over life and death and the rush of power she felt dictating a baby's fate. That is a god complex.

MOO

was actually one of the examples in evidence that pushed me towards thinki6ng she was G. It was a sharp contrast to her ordinarily unexcited demeanour. if there was nothing in this situation that was unusual then why was her behaviour so unusual not just colectively but personally as well.

 

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