UK UK - PETER TOBIN - 48 Victims?

"Probe launched

into death of serial killer and rapist Peter Tobin

who died after suffering a fall in his prison cell.


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It is impossible to know many women he raped and killed over his life, but criminologists think the true number is likely to be far higher than three.

Officers believe Tobin will have killed others and had at least 40 aliases and 150 cars during his life to hide his tracks as he targeted vulnerable women.

If the reported 48 number is accurate, it is thought that would make him the second-worst identified serial killer in the UK in modern times, behind Dr Harold Shipman, who is thought to have killed around 250.

Today, the Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service announced a probe into this death because it occurred after he fell in his cell on September 8, 2022 at HMP Edinburgh.

He died on October 8, 2022 at the Edinburgh Royal Infirmary and his ashes were scattered at sea -
despite Miss Hamilton's father pleading for the ashes to be sent to him so he could flush them down the toilet."

 

"Probe launched

into death of serial killer and rapist Peter Tobin

who died after suffering a fall in his prison cell.


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It is impossible to know many women he raped and killed over his life, but criminologists think the true number is likely to be far higher than three.

Officers believe Tobin will have killed others and had at least 40 aliases and 150 cars during his life to hide his tracks as he targeted vulnerable women.

If the reported 48 number is accurate, it is thought that would make him the second-worst identified serial killer in the UK in modern times, behind Dr Harold Shipman, who is thought to have killed around 250.

Today, the Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service announced a probe into this death because it occurred after he fell in his cell on September 8, 2022 at HMP Edinburgh.

He died on October 8, 2022 at the Edinburgh Royal Infirmary and his ashes were scattered at sea -
despite Miss Hamilton's father pleading for the ashes to be sent to him so he could flush them down the toilet."

Apologies for necroing this thread, but I'm doing some websleuthing and I'm trying to definitively rule out Tobin in the disappearance of Nicola Payne in December 1991.

Does anyone have a definitive (as possible) timeline of Tobin's activities during this period, or know of any FOI requests that might shed some light on what he was up to?

We know he was actively killing during this period and has at least spent time in Coventry as two years later he was found hiding out there amongst a Christian cult.

If anyone can help me I'd really appreciate it.
 
This is the best timeline I've found so far:


Looking at the disappearances of Jessie Earl and Louise Kay, along with the murders he's been prosecuted for, it seems his MO is to murder/disappear a young woman or girl under the age of 20, promptly flee the area, then check himself in to a hospital in the new town for fake medical problems or stay with some sort of religious institution.

Other disappearances he's been linked to through Operation Anagram don't always seem to fit this MO - my guess is he only flees when he's done something bad where he lives.

I still like him for Barbara Finn and Nicola Payne, who both disappeared within 3 months of each other in Coventry 1991, though Barbara is a bit old for him. He was known to live in Margate at the time, quite a drive from Coventry though.
 
Back in the early nineties, Tobin lived in a flat in my home town with his son. He hired two young girls to babysit. he attacked one or both ,I can't remember now, then turned on the Gas taps. Both managed to escape ,He was convicted for this so I know he was in Hampshire around that time,
 
Last night one spooked local said: "Tobin's crimes will never be forgotten. It seems like the last place anyone would want to spend a night." A notice on the church website says: "Sadly, we are now facing the situation that the future of our church and parish is not good and we can expect the church to close.

"The Archdiocesan estates department is now looking at options for the future of the building, including looking for planning permission for uses such as conversion to flats or a hotel. The money that is made by selling the property will be divided between the neighbouring parishes."
 
From the article you posted (snipped for copyright):

Tobin struggled with the weight of the wheelbarrow at times.

We sometimes saw him tipping the contents into a cabbage field

“I thought, ‘What the hell is he doing with that wheelbarrow at this time of night?’
 
Another name may be one more victim. 28 year old Glaswegian Linda Angus vanished from Suffolk date not known 1974.Linda was known to have been in the Lakenheath air base area in the early 70s.
Possibly linked to the August 1st 1974 disappearance of 17 year old Glaswegian Mary Boyle. Mary had worked in a chip shop in Cromer, Norfolk & was last seen on the above date saying she was going back to Scotland.
Not much out there on these ladies so please add or correct any mistakes
 
Vicky Hamilton was waiting for a bus on a snowy winter night in 1991 when the 15-year-old teenager disappeared. Her case became one of Scotland’s biggest missing persons investigations. That summer 18-year-old Dinah McNicol vanished after hitchhiking home from a music festival in Kent. Then, 15 years later, 23-year-old Angelika Kluk went missing in Glasgow in 2006
 
  • , 30 MAR 2025
  • Detective who caught Peter Tobin believes new documentary
  • ''A hit new TV documentary is hoped to help unearth new evidence linking serial killer Peter Tobin to more unsolved murders, by the detective who caught the evil murderer.

    Retired Detective Superintendent David Swindle believes that Tobin claimed more victims across the UK, linked to investigations of several cold cases as part of Operation Anagram.

    The notorious psychopath died in 2022 while serving three life sentences for the murders of Angela Kluk, Dinah McNicol, and Vicky Hamilton.

    The BBC documentary series, The Hunt for Peter Tobin, has been viewed by more than one million viewers. It examined how missing person cases led to the capture of one of Britain's most notorious murderers.''
  • March 1 2025
 
The evil Peter Tobin has been quoted as saying he killed 48 women, then told the police to 'prove it'. I do not doubt he killed 48, I really don't. But let's look at WHO he may have killed.
Serial killers start in their late teens and early twenties. Tobin was born in August 1946, so we use 1966 as a center point.
Now, let's just have a look...
Esther Mersy
Family of missing Esther Mersy fear she is sex killer Peter Tobin's first victim
A twenty-seven-year-old housewife, vanished on November 29th 1965 from Port Glasgow, lived near Tobin's home. He was 19. She was small, brunette, involved with her local church and has not been found. Her handbag and coat were found in a bus shelter on Largs seafront, a few miles away. Like Dinah, money was taken out of her account.

Bible John Murders
I think Tobin is the prime suspect for these.
Bible John - Wikipedia
Peter Tobin

April Fabb
Disappearance of April Fabb - Wikipedia
Aged 13, April was cycling between Metton and Roughton on 8th April 1969, in Norfolk. Norfolk is a county that Tobin frequented on bank holidays. 8th April was the day after Easter Monday. Although Robert Black is also a suspect and drove vans (without a license) after 1964, I believe Tobin is stronger, as he was more likely to have been in Norfolk on that SPECIFIC date. April is still missing.

Jackie Ansell-Lamb and Barbara Mayo
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/391675/Prints-may-solve-43-year-old-killings-mystery
Hitchhiking on the M1 in March 1970, 18-year-old Jackie Ansell-Lamb was found raped and strangled. Six months later, 24-year-old Barbara Mayo was also raped and strangled near the M1. If you look at her picture, she does look like Dinah.

Susan Long
http://www.norfolk.police.uk/newsandevents/unsolvedcases/homicideattemptedhomicides/susanlong1.aspx
18-year-old Susan Long was catching the last bus home on the night of 10th March, from Norwich to Aylsham. She had been at a dance hall. she was found at 5.15am on 11th March by a milkman, having been strangled and drowned in a puddle.
Of course, this fits tight with the murder of Jackie, but if we believe Tobin then decided to get as far away from Jackie's murder scene as possible, this works.

Helen Kane
The 25-year-old had been out with her husband and friends in Edinburgh in May 1970. She was found stripped and battered on a building site. Angus Sinclair may be responsible but I don't think we should rule Tobin out just yet.

Anne Law
34, murdered in Newcastle. Vanished in March 1973, her body found in 1982.
Victims waiting for justice as killers remain at large. - Free Online Library

Wendy Sewell
Murder of Wendy Sewell - Wikipedia
The 32-year-old was killed in a cemetery in Bakewell in the Midlands on 12th September 1973. Beaten round the head and assaulted, her death reminds me of the Bible John murders.

Bridget Findlay
Bridget Findlay - Unsolved Murder 1973 - Bargeddie, Lanarkshire - Bridget Findlay Unsolved Mysteries UK
Unable to find much else.

Caroline (or Carolyn) Doreen Allen
Caroline Doreen Allen - Unsolved Murder 1974 - Bramcote, Nottinghamshire - Caroline Doreen Allen Unsolved Mysteries UK
Disappeared in April 1974, found dead in December 1975, possibly beaten round the head. Found twenty miles away, I am unable to find much else. She was seventeen.

Mary Boyle
Disappeared aged 17 from Norfolk. Might be the Cockley Cley body.

Cockley Cley Headless Woman
Unidentified Headless Woman - Unsolved Murder 1974 - Cockley Cley, Norfolk - Unidentified headless woman Unsolved Mysteries UK
Found In August 1974, unidentified. Was wearing a Marks and Spencer nightdress and was wrapped in a sheet made in Scotland. The company made six particular sheets between 1962 and 1968. Why only six in six sheets is beyond me.

Pamela Exall
http://www.norfolk.police.uk/newsandevents/unsolvedcases/missingpersons/pamelaexall.aspx
Pamela vanished on 27th August 1974 in Snettisham, at the coast. She had gone for a walk. What puzzles me is when her family were shown jewelry from Tobin, they said they recognized it, but it wasn't Pamela's. Vicky Hamilton borrowed her mother's ring when she vanished. Maybe Pamela did the same? Tobin could also have pretended to be a lost tourist and perhaps ask her to point somewhere on a map. She wouldn't be able to see very well, almost dark, so he could have pushed her in.

Maureen Mulcahy
BBC NEWS | UK | Wales | Wales politics | Police review 28 unsolved murders
22-year-old Maureen was strangled after leaving a pub.

Brenda Evans
Detectives review historic Cheshire murder case which took place south of Chester
A 17-year-old, murdered in October 1977, shoved down a manhole and strangled with her tights.

Jill Barnard
This one was tricky, as I found literally no information on her. All I know is she vanished sometime in October 1977 and she was 19 and lived in London.
Hentai 44

Jill Brown
Jill Brown
Vanished on 3rd January 1978, aged 19. Not found.

Asha Bostan
http://www.unsolved-murders.co.uk/murder-content.php?key=1370
Only information I can find about this person.

Margaret Frame
Murdered in Brighton in 1978, the 36-year-old was raped, stabbed in the back, her throat slit, an attempt was made to severe her head and her jewellery was taken. She was dragged 500 yards and buried in a shallow grave. It took ten days to find her body.
http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/3751317.Brighton_murder_case_that_lives_on/
http://theargusandleaderseries.news...ooking_back_margaret_frame_jewellery_1978_jpg

Yvette Watson
Yvette was 17 when she was last seen in Norfolk on 30th March 1979. Listed as a runaway, but likely Tobin victim.
http://www.unsolved-murders.co.uk/murder-content.php?key=869

Christina Nuala Bracken AKA Sister Jacinta
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases-uk/1965dfuk.html
Vanished from Swansea in May 1979. Interestingly, her handbag was found on the shore, like Vicky's purse was near the bus stop. In Tobin's possession are religious medals and rosary beads similar to what a nun would have.

Suzanne Lawrence
Aged 14, she disappeared in Harold Hill, Essex.
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases-uk/2462dfuk.html
As this was in the holidays, Tobin could have been on his way to Norfolk. If so, she could be in Norfolk.

Teresa De Simone
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Teresa_de_Simone
Murdered in December 1979 in Southampton. As her jewelry was taken, as well as strangulation and naked from the waist down, this seems to fit.

Jessie Earl
Aged 22, she lived in Eastbourne in 1980 when she disappeared. Found in 1989 in Beachy Head. Rather good argument for Tobin having killed her.
http://www.eastbourneherald.co.uk/news/local/tobin-link-to-jessie-s-murder-1-3977869

Pamela Hastie
16, murdered in the area Tobin grew up. Robert Black is a suspect but I say he didn't, as the chances of one serial killer striking where another grew up and was probably living in at the time is minuscule.
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/real-life/mothers-in-arms-murdered-girls-mums-1079921

Janice Carole Weston
Janice was 36 when she was killed in 1983.
http://www.unsolved-murders.co.uk/murder-content.php?key=60

Julie Gardner
http://www.unsolved-murders.co.uk/murder-content.php?key=1508
Not able to find much.

Marion Hodge
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases-uk/1908dfuk.html
From Dumfries, currently missing.

Elia Karjalainen
Hitchhiking in November 1984. Murdered.
http://www.unsolved-murders.co.uk/murder-content.php?key=1815

Lisa Hession
Aged 14, murdered on 8th December 1984 as she came home from a party. Her clothing may have made her look older.
http://www.wigantoday.net/news/local/dna-swab-programme-in-hunt-for-lisa-s-killer-1-3255383

Suzy Lamplugh
Went to see a client called 'Mr Kipper' on 28th July 1986. Never returned. Declared dead in 1994.
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases-uk/426dfuk.html

Nicola Fellows and Karen Hadaway
Aged nine and ten, these two girls were murdered on 9th October 1986 in Wild Park, Brighton.
http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/11524584.Families_relive_heartache_of_Babes_in_the_Woods/?ref=mr

Ann Ballantine
http://www.scotsman.com/news/edinbu...allantine-hope-killer-can-be-caught-1-1194680

Linda Cook
Killed in Portsmouth on 9th December 1986.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Linda_Cook

Louise Kay
Aged 18, she disappeared in Eastbourne.
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases-uk/1712dfuk.html

Donna Healey
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-21024977

Janine Downes
http://www.unsolved-murders.co.uk/murder-content.php?key=1556

Sharon Hoare
http://www.unsolved-murders.co.uk/murder-content.php?key=1559

Gail Whitehouse
http://www.unsolved-murders.co.uk/murder-content.php?key=1552

Maria Requena
http://www.unsolved-murders.co.uk/murder-content.php?key=1551

Nicola Payne
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/local-news/victims-of-serial-killer-peter-tobin-248076

Johanna Young
http://www.norfolk.police.uk/newsan...homicideattemptedhomicides/johannayoung1.aspx

Amanda Duncan
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases-uk/1046dfuk.html

Jennifer Kiely
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/southern_counties/4215443.stm

Here is some jewelry that Tobin had in his possession.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/8418183.stm
Your link for Jill was broken

Jill Barnard

Age at disappearance: 19

Jill was 19 years old when she went missing in October 1977. She was due to go flat hunting with her sister but Jill never turned up.

Her sister is extremely concerned for Jill’s welfare as they are very close and her disappearance was completely out of character. She just wants to know that Jill is safe and well.

At the time of her disappearance, Jill was 5ft 4in tall, of medium build, with straight brown hair. Although it is possible that Jill may have been living in London in the early 80s, her current whereabouts remain a mystery

 

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nothing like a dead bloke when looking to clear up some old cases!

if only they had focused more on him when he was alive and murdering

i should add that he was a vile creature and should have been dissolved in acid imho
 
  • , 30 MAR 2025
  • Detective who caught Peter Tobin believes new documentary
  • ''A hit new TV documentary is hoped to help unearth new evidence linking serial killer Peter Tobin to more unsolved murders, by the detective who caught the evil murderer.

    Retired Detective Superintendent David Swindle believes that Tobin claimed more victims across the UK, linked to investigations of several cold cases as part of Operation Anagram.

    The notorious psychopath died in 2022 while serving three life sentences for the murders of Angela Kluk, Dinah McNicol, and Vicky Hamilton.

    The BBC documentary series, The Hunt for Peter Tobin, has been viewed by more than one million viewers. It examined how missing person cases led to the capture of one of Britain's most notorious murderers.''
  • March 1 2025
I’ve always wondered if this was the monster who brutally attacked and beat my mother when she was 15. She was beaten so badly she lost a lot of her teeth. He attacked her while she was waiting on a bus. He dragged her into a close and attacked her but she managed to escape. Her father (my grandfather) searched the streets for a long time trying to find this monster. My mother is now in her 70s. I can’t help but wonder if it was Peter Tobin.
 
I’ve always wondered if this was the monster who brutally attacked and beat my mother when she was 15. She was beaten so badly she lost a lot of her teeth. He attacked her while she was waiting on a bus. He dragged her into a close and attacked her but she managed to escape. Her father (my grandfather) searched the streets for a long time trying to find this monster. My mother is now in her 70s. I can’t help but wonder if it was Peter Tobin.
I need to add this also. My mother herself thought it could have been Peter Tobin.
 

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