UK - Prince Andrew accused of underage sexual relationship, 1999-2002 *settled* #2

[UK Girl]

How interesting!
So FBI gave the pic back to her, I didn't know it.

I guess if they took copies they didnt need the original but...surely they would need the original for any prosecution had it took place?

 

[JDG]

Here is what VG was questioned about re: the photo, by GM’s attorney. The file is searchable online.

Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP Document 1090-32 Filed 07/30/20
EXHIBIT D
GIUFFRE
VS.
MAXWELL
Deposition
VIRGINIA GIUFFRE
05/03/2016

Page 208

Q Where is the original of the photograph that has been widely circulated in the press of you with Prince Andrew?

A I probably still have it. It's not in my possession right now.

Q Where is it?

A Probably in some storage boxes.

Q Where?

A In Sydney.

Q Where in Sydney?

A At some family's house. We got the boxes shipped to Australia, and they were picked up off the porch by my nephews and brought to their house.

Q Which is where?

A In Sydney.

Q Where in Sydney?

A (redacted)

Q And who lives in that house?

A Well, it's owned by my mother-in-law and father-in-law, but my nephews live in the house.

Q What are their names?

A I'm not giving you the names of my nephews.

Q What's the address of the house?

A Why would you want that?

Q I want to know where the photograph is.
I'm asking you where the photograph is. And you've just told me it's somewhere in (redacted).

A Yes.

Q So where in is the photograph located?

A If I can't 100 percent say that the photograph is there, it could be at my house that I presently live in. I'm not going to give you the address of my nephews' residence.

Q When is the last time you saw the photograph in person?

A When I packed and left America.

Q Colorado?

A Yes.

Q All right. So you had that photograph with you in Colorado?

A Yes.

Q What's on the back of the photograph?

A I'm sorry?

Q Is there anything on the back of the photograph?

A There's like the date it was printed, but no writing or anything.

Q Okay. Does it say where it was printed?

A I don't believe so. I think it just -- I
don't remember. I just remember there's a date on it.

Q Whose camera was it taken with?

A My little yellow Kodak camera.

Q Who took the picture?

A Jeffrey Epstein.

Q And where did you have it developed?

A I believe when I got back to America.

Q So where?

A I don't know.

Q Palm Beach?

A I don't know.

Q What is the date the photograph was printed?

A I believe it's in March 2001.

Q Okay.

A But that's just off of my photographic memory. I don't -- it could be different, but I think it's March 2001.

Q You have a photographic memory?

A I'm not saying I have a photographic memory. But if I'd look at the back of the photo and I remember what it says, I believe it was March 2001.

Q Did the photograph ever leave your possession for a while?

A I gave it to the FBI.

Q Okay. And when did you get it back?

A When they took copies of it.

Q When was that?

A 2011.

Q When they came to interview you?

A Yes.

Q So from 2011 until you left Colorado it was in your personal possession?

A Yes.

Boy, that’s a lot of gobbledygook isn’t it?

Can she not just answer without the games?

 

[rosesfromangels]

That now infamous photo is creepy at many levels, other than the obvious. It has been suggested that JE took it, which tells me he might have had plans to use it as a threat someday, or to control P.A.

G.M. looks like a pleased wedding planner; observing her work with pleasure. People can be so creepy in their warped, secret lives.

Amateur opinion and speculation

 

[UK Girl]

That now infamous photo is creepy at many levels, other than the obvious. It has been suggested that JE took it, which tells me he might have had plans to use it as a threat someday, or to control P.A.

G.M. looks like a pleased wedding planner; observing her work with pleasure. People can be so creepy in their warped, secret lives.

Amateur opinion and speculation

How interesting!
So FBI gave the pic back to her, I didn't know it.

I guess if they took copies they didnt need the original but...surely they would need the original for any prosecution had it took place?

to be honest I am also wondering why VG kept it and took it to Oz with her for?

 

[Forest_Wood]

How interesting!
So FBI gave the pic back to her, I didn't know it.

I imagine the FBI had it officially analyzed for authenticity before returning the original to her.

 

[UK Girl]

I imagine the FBI had it officially analyzed for authenticity before returning the original to her.

to be fair she doesnt say that. Just that they took a copy

 

[Forest_Wood]

That now infamous photo is creepy at many levels, other than the obvious. It has been suggested that JE took it, which tells me he might have had plans to use it as a threat someday, or to control P.A.

G.M. looks like a pleased wedding planner; observing her work with pleasure. People can be so creepy in their warped, secret lives.

Amateur opinion and speculation

JE and GM seem to have been into taking pics. The other girl who sat on one knee of Andrew while VG was directed to sit on his other knee during the puppet escapade in NYC stated GM wanted a photo of that too.

 

[Dotta]

JE and GM seem to have been into taking pics. The other girl who sat on one knee of Andrew while VG was directed to sit on his other knee during the puppet escapade in NYC stated GM wanted a photo of that too.

Will it ever surface?
The public will be very interested

 

[Forest_Wood]

to be fair she doesnt say that. Just that they took a copy

Which is why I said I imagine.
Do you honestly believe they wouldn’t have had the pic analyzed ?

 

[Dotta]

By the way, who in their right mind would agree to be photographed in a compromising situation?

What happened to survival instinct?

 

[UK Girl]

JE and GM seem to have been into taking pics. The other girl who sat on one knee of Andrew while VG was directed to sit on his other knee during the puppet escapade in NYC stated GM wanted a photo of that too.

The one who said Andrew was charming and that she sat on his knee of her own choice? her name is Johanna . I have to admit its the first time I have ever heard him called that

 

[UK Girl]

Which is why I said I imagine.
Do you honestly believe they wouldn’t have had the pic analyzed ?

I honestly have no idea considering they never seem to have actually been after Andrew...just the other pair.

 

[Forest_Wood]

Boy, that’s a lot of gobbledygook isn’t it?

Can she not just answer without the games?

What games? Many of the questions posed were vague imo.

If you want gobbledygook, you should read AD's deposition!

 

[Dotta]

What games? Many of the questions posed were vague imo.

If you want gobbledygook, you should read AD's deposition!

Hahaha
Do you mean "lawyer's talk"?

 

[Ruby12345]

What games? Many of the questions posed were vague imo.

If you want gobbledygook, you should read AD's deposition!

They weren't vague they were very specific.

 

[Forest_Wood]

They weren't vague they were very specific.

IMO the answers provided were as vague as the questions asked or as specific as the questions asked — whichever way you want to look at it.

 

[UK Girl]

Is her deposition actually booked yet with Andrews lawyers?

 

[Forest_Wood]

Hahaha
Do you mean "lawyer's talk"?

I mean nonsense in order to confuse and detract from the severity of the situation.

 

[Dotta]

I mean nonsense in order to confuse and detract from the severity of the situation.

Bingo!

 

[Dotta]

Is her deposition actually booked yet with Andrews lawyers?

The lawyers are travelling hopping among continents for depositions.
Who is paying for these travels?
PA and VR/G?